Why the fuck do people think Firefox is better than IE?

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  • Tempest
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • May 2004
    • 10217

    #51
    I've been trying out new browsers this week. Tested Opera and now I'm working with Firefox.. The biggest "comaplaint" so far is that when I installed it, the pop-up blocker was defaulted to ON!!! That's going to be lost revenue for a lot of people.

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    • woj
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      • Jul 2002
      • 47880

      #52
      Firefox doesn't have as many known security holes as IE, that should be good enough reason to switch...
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      • Doctor Dre
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jan 2001
        • 51692

        #53
        Originally posted by michaelw
        Im getting sick to my fucking stomach reading all these biased threads going on and on about how Firefox is a gift from above

        Firefox fucking SUCKS. I cannot believe that people who obviously are pretty advanced when it comes to the internet and windows believe that firefox is awesome.

        It takes firefox fucking forever to load up, at least 3-4 times as long as IE - and im on a AMD 2700+CPU with 512MB ddr, so dont give me bullshit that its just my shitty PC. Theres been benchmark after benchmark, showing consistently that IE renders pages faster than firefox, loads faster, even renders hahahahahahahahahahas better and faster. Not to mention that the webbrowser control for developers is a dream to work with, unlike mozillas POS gecko.

        So tell me, firefox users, are you truly retarded? perhaps you just choose the browser because it makes you feel like rebels (using something other than microsofts clearly superior program) in the little nerdy world you live in? Or perhaps you despise success and will only run firefox because it isnt made by MICRO$HAFT?

        I seriously dont get it. If you want an alternative to IE, at least fucking use Opera which is also much faster and better than firefox.

        Do yourself a favor you idiots, go get MyIE2. Its fucking amazing. You can have dozens of tabs open, and the browser doesnt get even a bit laggy. I cannot imagine what would happen if i had like even 6 tabs open in firefox, what a POS browser. MyIE2 has mouse gestures, plugins, amazing drag and drop capabilities, loads as fast as IE, popup blocking, neat tabs.. its got it all.
        Firefox loads 10 x faster then IE here . Dunno WTF is your problem . Show me the whole benchmark thing because I dont beleive it ...

        Also tabbed browswer really own .

        Opera takes 10x the memory of firefox ...
        Originally posted by rayadp05
        I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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        • mrthumbs
          salad tossing sig guy
          • Apr 2002
          • 11702

          #54
          Originally posted by michaelw
          Im getting sick to my fucking stomach reading all these biased threads going on and on about how Firefox is a gift from above
          Whether he owes Juicy money or not: he DOES have a very good point.

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          • KRL
            Entrepreneur
            • Oct 2002
            • 31429

            #55
            I'm using Opera and IE. I have Firefox installed but between that and Opera, as an alternative browser Opera wins hands down.

            You have to take your time and explore all the features. They are quite numerous and impressive. There is a bit to learn with it, but the more you use it the more you like it.
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            • Tempest
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • May 2004
              • 10217

              #56
              Originally posted by KRL
              I'm using Opera and IE. I have Firefox installed but between that and Opera, as an alternative browser Opera wins hands down.
              Have you figured out if there's a way to have Opera put a thin "box" around the links you click on just like IE, netscape and firefox do? It drives me crazy.

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              • juicylinks
                So Fucking Banned
                • Apr 2001
                • 122992

                #57
                Originally posted by juicylinks
                scammer god help you if i ever go to calgary

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                • Antonio
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 14136

                  #58
                  K-Meleon - the best browser ever. Plain & simple.

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                  • thumbsUP
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2004
                    • 347

                    #59
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                    Well what do you think????


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                    • chodadog
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2002
                      • 9736

                      #60
                      The vast majority of exploits, spyware, adware, malware, etc are targetted at IE. You can pretty much surf the web safely with full functionality with firefox and not have to worry about getting fucked.

                      It also takes up way less memory than IE does. Firefox opens pretty much instantly for me. So does IE. Both certainly open in well under a second.

                      I also see very little difference in page rendering times. If there is any difference at all, either way, it's negligible.

                      I like it. That's why i use it.
                      26 + 6 = 1

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                      • extreme
                        Confirmed User
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 2120

                        #61
                        - popupblocking and fast googlesearch without any extra toolbar taking up space

                        - tabbed browsing

                        - secure

                        - cool plugins:
                        http://update.mozilla.org/extensions...cation=firefox

                        nice for html coders:
                        http://update.mozilla.org/extensions...x&id=60&vid=63

                        adblock is sweet as well, get the latest build from:
                        http://adblock.mozdev.org/dev.html

                        - usable without the mouse (just start to type the first letters from a linktext and it will jump to hit, then hit enter) .. it grows on you for certain sitiuations.

                        - small, fast, follows/supports standards like various HTMLversions and PNG, open source
                        Last edited by extreme; 07-03-2004, 07:13 PM.

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                        • goBigtime
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 7761

                          #62
                          Originally posted by michaelw

                          It takes firefox fucking forever to load up, at least 3-4 times as long as IE -
                          The first time you load it.

                          Reboot, load it, close it & load it again. It'll pop right up.

                          Microsoft probably keeps (or uses) part of IExplorer.exe in memory via explorer.exe.

                          Originally posted by michaelw Theres been benchmark after benchmark, showing consistently that IE renders pages faster than firefox, loads faster, even renders hahahahahahahahahahas better and faster.
                          There's also security bulletin after security bulletin showing that malicious hackers can consistently render your machine useless (if you like it to be secure anyway).

                          I'll trade a few milliseconds here or there in page rendering time to dodge the next IE critical vulnerability, thanks.



                          Originally posted by michaelw So tell me, firefox users, are you truly retarded? perhaps you just choose the browser because it makes you feel like rebels (using something other than microsofts clearly superior program) in the little nerdy world you live in? Or perhaps you despise success and will only run firefox because it isnt made by MICRO$HAFT?

                          I seriously dont get it. If you want an alternative to IE, at least fucking use Opera which is also much faster and better than firefox.

                          Alot of us retardted Firefox users use firefox because its open source and it's timeliness of security and other bug fixes aren't subject to how much public knowlege and/or negative press or the corporation is getting over the bug.



                          MyIE2 looks cool. DonateWare is nice. But to me it would be like sticking a pretty flower in a steaming pile of manure.

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                          • goBigtime
                            Confirmed User
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 7761

                            #63
                            Mike...

                            The easy way to demonstrate why so many people use FireFox (was Firebird) is to show a cumulative list of security vulnerabilities of IE vs Mozilla/FireBird/Firefox during roughly the same time period.



                            Here is what I found for Mozilla....



                            Mar 18 2004 Mozilla S/MIME ASN.1 Implementation Bugs May Let Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code
                            Mar 10 2004 Mozilla Cookie Path Restrictions Can Be Byassed By Remote Servers
                            Feb 25 2004 Mozilla Event Handler Document Transition Flaw Permits Cross-Site Scripting Attacks
                            Jun 8 2003 Mozilla Access Control Flaw in Java Lets Malicious hahahahahahahahahaha and Java Applets Bypass Security Restrictions
                            Apr 30 2003 Mozilla Browser document.domain Interpretation Flaw Discloses Information From Arbitrary Domains
                            Apr 16 2003 Mozilla Browser Domain Change Security Context Flaw Lets Scripts in One Page Execute in the Security Context of Another Page
                            Nov 14 2002 Mozilla Browser Heap Overflow in Processing 'jar:' URIs Allows Remote Users to Execute Arbitrary Code on the Browser
                            Sep 11 2002 Mozilla Web Browser Privacy Leak May Disclose the Next Web URL You Visit to the Current Server
                            Aug 6 2002 Mozilla Web Browser Input Validation Flaw in FTP View Feature May Let Remote Users Conduct Cross-Site Scripting Attacks
                            Jul 30 2002 Mozilla Web Browser hahahahahahahahahaha 'Same Origin Policy' Flaw Allows Remote Users to Create Malicious hahahahahahahahahaha to Retrieve Web Data from a Victim's Internal Network
                            Jul 25 2002 Mozilla Web Browser Allows hahahahahahahahahaha Code to Read and Modify Cookies from Other Domains
                            Jun 18 2002 Mozilla Mail Download Can Be Crashed By Remote Users Sending Malicious E-mail via POP3
                            Jun 11 2002 Mozilla Web Browser Bug in Processing Stylesheets May Let Remote Users Crash the Browser
                            Apr 30 2002 Mozilla Browser XMLHTTP Redirect Bug Lets Remote Users View Files on a User's Computer
                            Jan 22 2002 Mozilla Web Browser Cookie Processing Bug May Let Remote Web Sites Steal a User's Cookies for Any Domain
                            Dec 22 2001 Mozilla Web Browser Can Be Crashed By Malicious Image Source Tag hahahahahahahahahaha Supplied By Remote Users
                            Oct 20 2001 Mozilla Browser Will Return HTTP Cookies to an FTP Server at the Same Domain as the HTTP Server, Which Could Be a Different Domain if the HTTP Server is Hosting Virtual Domains



                            (Keep in mind that Firebird/Firefox may not have been affected by all of these)
                            Last edited by goBigtime; 07-03-2004, 07:39 PM.

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                            • goBigtime
                              Confirmed User
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 7761

                              #64
                              Now here is IE...



                              Jul 2 2004 (Vendor Issues Workaround) Microsoft Internet Explorer Cross-Domain Redirect Hole Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code
                              Jun 14 2004 Microsoft Internet Explorer Crashes When Saving Files With Special Character Strings
                              Jun 13 2004 Microsoft Internet Explorer '%2F' URL Parsing Error Lets Remote Users Spoof Sites in the Trusted Zone
                              Jun 11 2004 (US-CERT Issues Advisory) Microsoft Internet Explorer Cross-Domain Redirect Hole Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code
                              May 17 2004 Microsoft Internet Explorer Image Map URL Display Error Lets Remote Users Spoof URLs
                              May 13 2004 Microsoft Internet Explorer showHelp Path Search Lets Remote Users Load Existing Local CHM Files
                              May 7 2004 Microsoft Internet Explorer 'file://' URL Processing Flaw Lets Remote Users Damage the Registry
                              Apr 30 2004 Microsoft Internet Explorer SSL Icon Error May Let Remote Users Impersonate Secure Web Sites
                              Apr 26 2004 Microsoft Internet Explorer Buffer Overflow in Processing SMB Share Names Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code
                              Apr 13 2004 Microsoft Internet Explorer Bitmap Memory Allocation Error Lets Remote Users Cause All Available Memory to Be Consumed
                              Apr 12 2004 Microsoft Internet Explorer hahahahahahahahahaha OLE Object Lets Remote Users Automatically Print Without Authorization
                              Feb 19 2004 Microsoft Internet Explorer Security Domain Flaw in Accessing CHM Files Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code
                              Mar 31 2004 Microsoft Internet Explorer Does Not Correctly Display Links With Embedded FORM Data
                              Mar 10 2004 Microsoft Internet Explorer Cookie Path Restrictions Can Be Byassed By Remote Servers
                              Feb 27 2004 Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) May Leak Keystrokes Across Frames
                              Feb 25 2004 (Vendor Issues Fix) Microsoft Internet Explorer Various Cross-Domain Flaws Permit Remote Scripting in Arbitrary Domains
                              Feb 15 2004 Microsoft Internet Explorer Integer Overflow in Processing Bitmap Files Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code
                              Feb 3 2004 (Vendor Issues Fix) Microsoft IE Does Not Properly Display Some URLs
                              Feb 3 2004 (Vendor Issues Fix) Microsoft Internet Explorer May Let Remote Users Read or Write Files Via the dragDrop() Method
                              Feb 2 2004 Microsoft Internet Explorer Travel Log Input Validation Flaw Lets Remote Users Run Arbitrary Scripting Code in the Local Computer Domain
                              Jan 28 2004 (Vendor Plans a Fix) Microsoft IE Does Not Properly Display Some URLs
                              Jan 2 2004 Microsoft Internet Explorer Flaw in Processing '.lnk' Shortcuts Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code
                              Dec 31 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer showHelp() '\..\' Directory Traversal Flaw Lets Remote Users Execute Files on the Target System
                              Dec 27 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer Trusted Domain Default Settings Facilitate Silent Installation of Executables
                              Dec 27 2003 Microsoft IE for Mac May Disclose Sensitive Information in Secure URLs to Remote Sites via HTTP Referer Field
                              Dec 9 2003 Microsoft IE Does Not Properly Display Some URLs
                              Nov 26 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer Invalid ContentType May Disclose Cache Directory Location to Remote Users
                              Nov 25 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer MHT Redirect Flaws Let Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code
                              Nov 13 2003 (Microsoft Issues Revised Fix for Windows 2000 SP4) Microsoft Internet Explorer SSL Implementation Flaw in Following Certificate Chains Allows Remote Users to Conduct Man-in-the-Middle Attacks to Obtain Unencrypted Data from the Browser
                              Nov 11 2003 (Vendor Issues Fix) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer May Disclose Local Files to Remote Users Via the dragDrop() Method
                              Oct 31 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer IFRAME Refresh Lets Remote HTML Access Local Files
                              Oct 24 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Files in the Local Zone Using a Specially Crafted IFRAME/Location Header
                              Oct 8 2003 Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Shell Folders Can Be Referenced Using Directory Traversal Characters
                              Oct 8 2003 (MS03-040 Still Vulnerable) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer Object Tag Flaw Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code
                              Oct 4 2003 (Microsoft Issues Revised Fix to Correct Two Variants) Microsoft Internet Explorer Object Tag Flaw Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code
                              Sep 12 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer Media Sidebar Flaw Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code on the System
                              Sep 12 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer Various Cross-Domain Flaws Permit Remote Scripting in Arbitrary Domains
                              Sep 8 2003 (Patch is Incomplete - Product is Still Vulnerable) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer Object Tag Flaw Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code
                              Aug 22 2003 (A Variant is Reported) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) Object Tag Buffer Overflow Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code
                              Aug 20 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer Buffer Overflow in CR549.DLL ActiveX Control Permits Remote Code Execution
                              Aug 20 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer Object Tag Flaw Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code
                              Aug 20 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer Cache Script Flaw Lets Remote Users Execute Code in the My Computer Zone
                              Jul 14 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer 'Chromeless' Window May Let Remote Users Spoof Various User Interface Characteristics
                              Jul 9 2003 (Microsoft Issues Fix) Microsoft Internet Explorer Buffer Overflow in Processing Scripted 'HR' Tags Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code
                              Jul 7 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer Can By Crashed By Loading 'C:\aux' URL
                              Jun 27 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer Buffer Overflow in Processing Scripted 'HR' Tags Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code
                              Jun 17 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer XML Parsing Error Lets Remote Users Conduct Cross-Site Scripting Attacks
                              Jun 17 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer Custom HTTP Error Pages May Let Remote Users Execute Scripts in the Local Computer Zone
                              Jun 5 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer Input Validation Flaw in Displaying FTP Site Names Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Scripting Code in Arbitrary Domains
                              Jun 4 2003 (Microsoft Issues Fix) Microsoft Internet Explorer May Execute Arbitrary Code in the Wrong Security Domain When Processing Large Numbers of Download Requests
                              Jun 4 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) Object Tag Buffer Overflow Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code
                              May 15 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer May Execute Arbitrary Code in the Wrong Security Domain When Processing Large Numbers of Download Requests
                              May 2 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer Web Folder Access Flaw Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Scripting Code in the My Computer Zone
                              Apr 23 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer Bugs (URLMON.DLL Buffer Overflow, File Upload Control Bypass, Plug-in URL Input Validation Flaw, CSS Modal Dialog Input Validation Flaw) Let Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code or Access Local Files
                              Mar 10 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer Buffer Overflow in Processing '.MHT' Web Archives Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code
                              Feb 25 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer Vulnerable Codebase Object Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code
                              Feb 5 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer showHelp() Domain Security Flaw Lets Remote Users Execute Commands
                              Feb 3 2003 Microsoft Internet Explorer May Let Remote Users Read or Write Files Via the dragDrop() Method
                              Dec 26 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Bug in Loading Multimedia Files May Let Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Scripting Code in Other Domains
                              Dec 4 2002 (Microsoft Issues Additional Fix) Microsoft Internet Explorer Cached Object Flaw Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Programs on the Target User's Computer
                              Dec 3 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer showModalDialog() Input Validation Flaw Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitary Scripting Code in Any Security Zone
                              Nov 25 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) Java Class Loader Security Flaw Lets Remote Users Bypass Java Security Restrictions

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                              • goBigtime
                                Confirmed User
                                • Nov 2002
                                • 7761

                                #65


                                Nov 21 2002 (Microsoft Issues Fix) Microsoft Internet Explorer Cached Object Flaw Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Programs on the Target User's Computer
                                Nov 21 2002 (Microsoft Issues Fix) Microsoft Internet Explorer URL Decoding Inconsistency May Result in a Web Page Loading in the Incorrect Security Domain
                                Nov 21 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Buffer Overflow in Processing PNG Images Allows Denial of Service Attacks
                                Nov 20 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer MDAC Component Buffer Overflow Allows Remote Users to Execute Arbitrary Code
                                Oct 23 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Cached Object Flaw Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Programs on the Target User's Computer
                                Oct 15 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Flaw in WebBrowser Control Document Property Lets Remote Users Run Code in the My Computer Security Zone
                                Sep 9 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Frame Domain Security Bug Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code in the Local Computer Zone Via Frame URLs
                                Sep 9 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Implementation Bugs in Java Native Methods May Let Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code Via Malicious Applets
                                Sep 5 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer URL Decoding Inconsistency May Result in a Web Page Loading in the Incorrect Security Domain
                                Aug 23 2002 (Microsoft Issues Fix) Microsoft Internet Explorer XML Script Element Redirect Bug Lets Remote Users View XML Files on the Target User's Computer
                                Aug 23 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer XML Script Element Redirect Bug Lets Remote Users View XML Files on the Target User's Computer
                                Aug 23 2002 (Microsoft Issues Fix) Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) 'dialogArguments' Flaw Lets Remote Users Conduct Cross-Site Scripting Attacks Against IE Users
                                Aug 23 2002 (Microsoft Issues Fix for New Variant of the Vulnerability) Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) Zone Spoofing Hole Lets Remote Users Create HTML That, When Loaded, May Run in a Less-Secure IE Security Zone
                                Aug 23 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Buffer Overflow in Unspecified Text Formatting ActiveX Control Lets Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code
                                Aug 23 2002 (Microsoft Issues Fix) Microsoft Internet Explorer Buffer Overflow in Processing Gopher Protocol Responses Allows Remote Users to Execute Code on the Victim's Computer
                                Aug 18 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer XMLDSO Java Class Lets Remote HTML Code Access Local Files
                                Aug 17 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) Browser Error Message Processing Allows Remote Users to Execute Arbitrary Code on Certain Windows 98 Platforms
                                Aug 6 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer SSL Implementation Flaw in Following Certificate Chains Allows Remote Users to Conduct Man-in-the-Middle Attacks to Obtain Unencrypted Data from the Browser
                                Aug 4 2002 (Microsoft Issues Fix) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer May Execute Remotely Supplied Scripting in the My Computer Zone if FTP Folder Viewing is Enabled
                                Jul 30 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) Web Browser hahahahahahahahahaha 'Same Origin Policy' Flaw Allows Remote Users to Create Malicious hahahahahahahahahaha to Retrieve Web Data from a Victim's Internal Network
                                Jul 11 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Flaw in OBJECT Domain Security Enforcement Lets Remote Users Execute Code in Arbitrary Domains
                                Jun 25 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Can Be Crashed By Malicious AVI Object in HTML
                                Jun 12 2002 (Microsoft Issues Workaround) Microsoft Internet Explorer Buffer Overflow in Processing Gopher Protocol Responses Allows Remote Users to Execute Code on the Victim's Computer
                                Jun 7 2002 (Additional Demonstration Exploit Information is Provided) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer May Execute Remotely Supplied Scripting in the My Computer Zone if FTP Folder Viewing is Enabled
                                Jun 6 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer May Execute Remotely Supplied Scripting in the My Computer Zone if FTP Folder Viewing is Enabled
                                Jun 5 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Buffer Overflow in Processing Gopher Protocol Responses Allows Remote Users to Execute Code on the Victim's Computer
                                Jun 3 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Allows HTML-Delivered Compiled Help Files to Be Automatically Executed on the Target User's Computer
                                May 15 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) New Content-Disposition Bugs May Let Remote Users Execute Arbitrary Code on the Victim's Computer
                                May 15 2002 (Microsoft Issues Fix That May Not Correct the Problem) Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) 'dialogArguments' Flaw Lets Remote Users Conduct Cross-Site Scripting Attacks Against IE Users
                                May 15 2002 (Microsoft Issues Fix) Microsoft Internet Explorer Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) Invalid Attribute Bug Lets Remote Users Read Portions of Files on the Victim's Computer
                                May 15 2002 (Microsoft Issues Updated Fix) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer Browser Security Zone Flaw Lets Remote Users Cause Cookie-based Scripts to Be Executed on Another User's Browser in the Incorrect Security Domain
                                May 15 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) Zone Spoofing Hole Lets Remote Users Create HTML That, When Loaded, May Run in a Less-Secure IE Security Zone
                                May 15 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Bugs in 'BGSOUND' and 'IFRAME' Tags Let Remote Users Create HTML That Will Cause Denial of Service Conditions or Will Access Special DOS Devices
                                May 1 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Can Be Crashed By Incorrectly Sized XBM Graphics Files
                                Apr 25 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Browser Can Be Crashed By Remote HTML Containing Malicious Image Tags That Cause Infinite Processing Loops
                                Apr 22 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Web Browser Can Be Crashed By Remote Users With OLE OBJECT Element Dependency Loops
                                Apr 17 2002 (Additional Versions are Affected) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) 'dialogArguments' Flaw Lets Remote Users Conduct Cross-Site Scripting Attacks Against IE Users
                                Apr 17 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) 'dialogArguments' Flaw Lets Remote Users Conduct Cross-Site Scripting Attacks Against IE Users
                                Apr 16 2002 (Vendor Issues Fix) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer for Mac OS Has Buffer Overflow in Processing the 'file://' URL That Allows Remote Users to Cause Arbitrary Code to Be Executed
                                Apr 16 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer for Mac OS Has Buffer Overflow in Processing the 'file://' URL That Allows Remote Users to Cause Arbitrary Code to Be Executed
                                Apr 3 2002 (Patch Reportedly Does Not Fully Fix the Flaw) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer Browser Security Zone Flaw Lets Remote Users Cause Cookie-based Scripts to Be Executed on Another User's Browser in the Incorrect Security Domain
                                Apr 2 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) Invalid Attribute Bug Lets Remote Users Read Portions of Files on the Victim's Computer
                                Mar 29 2002 (Microsoft Issues Fix) Internet Explorer (IE) Web Browser 'innerHTML' Property Hole Lets Remote Users Execute Programs on the Browser's Host, Even With ActiveX and Active Scripting Disabled
                                Mar 29 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Browser Security Zone Flaw Lets Remote Users Cause Cookie-based Scripts to Be Executed on Another User's Browser in the Incorrect Security Domain
                                Mar 27 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Discloses The Existence of and Details of Local Files to Remote Users
                                Mar 20 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Can Be Crashed By Malicious 'location.replace' hahahahahahahahahaha
                                Mar 18 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) 6 Lets Remote Users Cause Files to Be Downloaded and Executed Without the Knowledge or Consent of the Victim
                                Mar 4 2002 Microsoft Java Virtual Machine in Internet Explorer Lets Remote Malicious Applets Redirect Web Proxy Connections
                                Mar 4 2002 (A Workaround is Described) Re: Internet Explorer (IE) Web Browser 'innerHTML' Property Hole Lets Remote Users Execute Programs on the Browser's Host, Even With ActiveX and Active Scripting Disabled
                                Feb 28 2002 Internet Explorer (IE) Web Browser 'innerHTML' Property Hole Lets Remote Users Execute Programs on the Browser's Host, Even With ActiveX and Active Scripting Disabled
                                Feb 22 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Has Another Frame Domain Security Bug That Lets Remote Users View Files or Other Personal Information from a Victim's Computer By Using Malicious VBScripts
                                Feb 22 2002 (Microsoft Issues Fix) Microsoft Internet Explorer Version 6 Lets Remote Scripts Access and Send Local Files
                                Feb 13 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Browser MIME Flaw Causes 'text/plain' Pages to Be Displayed as HTML and Any Embedded Scripting to Be Executed By the Browser
                                Feb 13 2002 (Additional Details Are Provided) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) 'Content-Type' Processing Hole Lets Remote Users Open Applications on Another User's Computer
                                Feb 12 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) HTML Directive Buffer Overflow Lets Remote Users Cause Arbitrary Code to Be Executed on Another User's Computer
                                Feb 12 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) 'Content-Type' Processing Hole Lets Remote Users Open Applications on Another User's Computer
                                Feb 12 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) Web Browser Has New Frame Domain Verification Bug That Lets Remote Users Obtain Files from Another User's Local File System
                                Feb 12 2002 (Microsoft Issues New Fix) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE 6) Browser May Automatically and Silently Execute Arbitrary Code from a Remote Web Site When the User Views a Web Page or HTML-based E-mail
                                Feb 12 2002 (Vendor Issues Fix) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer Popup Object Tag Flaw Lets Remote Users Execute Programs on the Browser's Host
                                Feb 12 2002 (Vendor Issues Fix) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer GetObject() Active Scripting Bug Lets Remote Code Access Files on the PC
                                Feb 7 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Web Browser Allows Cross-site Scripting Attacks Via Non-HTTP Servers

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                                • goBigtime
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Nov 2002
                                  • 7761

                                  #66

                                  Jan 22 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer for Macintosh OS Executes Remotely Supplied Commands in AppleScripts
                                  Jan 16 2002 (A User Reports and Additional Exploit Method) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer Popup Object Tag Flaw Lets Remote Users Execute Programs on the Browser's Host
                                  Jan 15 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) Default Configuration Allows HTML-based Scripts to Access Your Windows Clipboard Contents
                                  Jan 14 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Popup Object Tag Flaw Lets Remote Users Execute Programs on the Browser's Host
                                  Jan 7 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer Can Be Crashed By Remote Users With hahahahahahahahahaha That Calls an Endless Loop of Modeless Dialogs
                                  Jan 4 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) May Allow Malicious hahahahahahahahahaha to Poll a User's System for Known Files
                                  Jan 2 2002 Microsoft Internet Explorer GetObject() Active Scripting Bug Lets Remote Code Access Files on the PC
                                  Dec 24 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer Web Browser Can Be Crashed By Malicious Image Source Tag hahahahahahahahahaha Supplied By Remote Users
                                  Dec 24 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) Text Form Processing Flaw May Cause IE to Crash
                                  Dec 23 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer Web Browser SSL Security Flaw Lets Remote Users Conduct Man-in-the-Middle Attacks to Access Sensitive Information
                                  Dec 20 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) Web Browser 'documenthahahahahaha()' Scripting Flaw Lets Remote Users Steal Cookies, Read Local Files, and Spoof Web Sites
                                  Dec 17 2001 (Vendor Patch Fails to Block 'application/hta' Content Types) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE 6) Browser May Automatically and Silently Execute Arbitrary Code from a Remote Web Site When the User Views a Web Page or HTML-based E-mail
                                  Dec 15 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer Version 6 Lets Remote Scripts Access and Send Local Files
                                  Dec 14 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE 6) Browser May Automatically and Silently Execute Arbitrary Code from a Remote Web Site When the User Views a Web Page or HTML-based E-mail
                                  Dec 14 2001 (Microsoft Issues Fix) Microsoft Internet Explorer May Execute hahahahahahahahahaha Contained Within an 'About:' URL in an Unauthorized Security Domain When the URL Contains an Extraneous '%' Character
                                  Dec 14 2001 (Microsoft Issues Fix) Microsoft Internet Explorer Allows Malicious Web Pages to Spoof Downloadable File Types And Execute Code on the User's Computer When Opened Directly from the Browser
                                  Dec 12 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer May Execute hahahahahahahahahaha Contained Within an 'About:' URL in an Unauthorized Security Domain When the URL Contains an Extraneous '%' Character
                                  Dec 7 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer Browser Can Be Crashed By Certain Image Tags
                                  Dec 3 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer Can Be Crashed By Malicious hahahahahahahahahaha Causing a Stack Overflow in setTimeout() Function
                                  Nov 26 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer Fails to Enforce Cookie Prompting Preferences for Local Security Zone
                                  Nov 26 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer Allows Malicious Web Pages to Spoof Downloadable File Types And Execute Code on the User's Computer When Opened Directly from the Browser
                                  Nov 26 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer ActiveX Flaw Permits Remote Malicious HTML Code Containing an 'htmlfile' or 'htmlfile_FullWindowEmbed' Object to Access Local Files and Potentially Execute Commands
                                  Nov 19 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer Cookie Disclosure Fix Discloses Patch Information to Remote Users
                                  Nov 14 2001 (Microsoft Issues Fix) Microsoft Internet Explorer Has Fixed Security Zone for about: URLs and Has Shared Cookie Flaw That Diminishes Cross-Site Scripting Protections
                                  Nov 9 2001 (How to Test for this Vulnerability) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer Has Fixed Security Zone for about: URLs and Has Shared Cookie Flaw That Diminishes Cross-Site Scripting Protections
                                  Nov 9 2001 (Microsoft Issues Warning and Describes a Workaround) Microsoft Internet Explorer Has Fixed Security Zone for about: URLs and Has Shared Cookie Flaw That Diminishes Cross-Site Scripting Protections
                                  Oct 24 2001 (A User Provides a Workaround) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer Has Fixed Security Zone for about: URLs and Has Shared Cookie Flaw That Diminishes Cross-Site Scripting Protections
                                  Oct 24 2001 (Microsoft Issues Fix) Microsoft Internet Explorer for Mac OS X is Configured to Automatically Execute Downloaded Files
                                  Oct 20 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer Has Fixed Security Zone for about: URLs and Has Shared Cookie Flaw That Diminishes Cross-Site Scripting Protections
                                  Oct 20 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer for Mac OS X is Configured to Automatically Execute Downloaded Files
                                  Oct 16 2001 Internet Explorer Sends Potentially Sensitive Web Browser Contents to Microsoft via the Network When an Error Occurs
                                  Oct 11 2001 (Additional Details About the Zone Bug) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) Web Browser Has Multiple URL-related Flaws That May Allow for Remote Code Execution, Remote HTTP Request Generation, and Application of Incorrect Security Restrictions
                                  Oct 11 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE) Web Browser Has Multiple URL-related Flaws That May Allow for Remote Code Execution, Remote HTTP Request Generation, and Application of Incorrect Security Restrictions
                                  Jun 8 2001 (Exploit Is Corrected) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer Web Browser May Allow Remote Users to Read Some Text Files on the Browser's Hard Drive
                                  Jun 7 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer Web Browser May Allow Remote Users to Read Some Text Files on the Browser's Hard Drive
                                  May 29 2001 (CIAC Issues Bulletin L-087) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer Allows Remote Web Sites to Cause a Different Web URL Address to Be Displayed
                                  May 29 2001 (CIAC Issues Bulletin) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer Web Browser Fails To Validate Digital Certificates in Some Configurations, Allowing Rogue Secure Web Sites to Spoof the Browser and Masquerade as a Different Secure Web Site
                                  May 17 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer Allows Remote Web Sites to Cause a Different Web URL Address to Be Displayed in the Browser's Address Bar, Allowing Rogue Web Sites to Spoof the Browser and Masquerade as Different Web Sites
                                  May 17 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer Web Browser Fails To Validate Digital Certificates in Some Configurations, Allowing Rogue Secure Web Sites to Spoof the Browser and Masquerade as a Different Secure Web Site
                                  May 15 2001 Older Version of Microsoft Internet Explorer Web Browser Can Be Crashed By Remote Users
                                  Apr 24 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer Can Consume All Memory Due to Malicious HTML Code
                                  Apr 23 2001 (Additional Info on Vulnerable Platforms) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer and Outlook Express May Execute Arbitrary Code Without User Authorization or Intervention
                                  Apr 21 2001 (Vendor Releases Revised Fix) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer with Services for Unix 2.0 Can Create Malicious Files on the User's Host
                                  Apr 21 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer and Outlook Express May Execute Arbitrary Code Without User Authorization or Intervention
                                  Apr 18 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer May Not Display File Extensions in Certain Cases
                                  Apr 3 2001 (Author Follows Up) Re: E-Mail Clients that use Microsoft Internet Explorer to Process HTML May Disguise Executable Attachments as Data Files
                                  Apr 3 2001 (Vendor Responds) Re: E-Mail Clients that use Microsoft Internet Explorer to Process HTML May Disguise Executable Attachments as Data Files
                                  Apr 3 2001 (CERT Issues Advisory) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer May Automatically Execute Certain E-mail Attachments
                                  Apr 3 2001 (CIAC Issues Bulletin) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer May Automatically Execute Certain E-mail Attachments
                                  Apr 3 2001 E-Mail Clients that use Microsoft Internet Explorer to Process HTML May Disguise Executable Attachments as Data Files
                                  Apr 1 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer Can Be Made to Execute Arbitrary Files on the User's Computer
                                  Mar 31 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer Allows Malicious Web Pages to Retrieve Files from the User's Computer
                                  Mar 30 2001 Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer May Automatically Execute Certain E-mail Attachments
                                  Mar 30 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer May Automatically Execute Certain E-mail Attachments
                                  Mar 29 2001 (Vendor Fix Available) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer Does Not Check for Revoked Digital Certificates (Two Fraudlent Certificates Are Known to Exist)
                                  Mar 28 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer Is Vulnerable to Malicious Web Pages That May Obtain the User's Exchange E-mail Messages and May Access Restricted Web Server Directory Listings
                                  Mar 23 2001 (Microsoft Issues Bulletin) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer Does Not Check for Revoked Digital Certificates (Two Fraudlent Certificates Are Known to Exist)
                                  Mar 23 2001 (CIAC Issues Bulletin) Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer Does Not Check for Revoked Digital Certificates (Two Fraudlent Certificates Are Known to Exist)
                                  Mar 23 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer Does Not Check for Revoked Digital Certificates (Two Fraudlent Certificates Are Known to Exist)
                                  Mar 15 2001 Microsoft Internet Explorer with Services for Unix 2.0 Can Create Malicious Files on the User's Host

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                                  • goBigtime
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Nov 2002
                                    • 7761

                                    #67
                                    Any further questions?

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                                    • Nasty D
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Dec 2002
                                      • 2563

                                      #68
                                      I dig the firefox


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                                      • pudcat
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Mar 2003
                                        • 1169

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Radik
                                        I dunno. some shit looked fucked i switched back.

                                        Don't be coding for this damn thing when 86% of your users use the dreaded ie.
                                        It bothers me to hear this kind of bullshit coming from one of the sponsors I promote.

                                        Essentially what you are saying is that you are a lazy sponsor that doesn't give a shit about ~14% of the traffic that I could be sending you.
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                                        • goBigtime
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Nov 2002
                                          • 7761

                                          #70
                                          I wont make purchases from sites that are broken in Mozilla. I'll usually point out the problem & tell them to email me when they've cleaned up their code so I can make the purchase.

                                          You'd be surprised how fast they fix things then ;)

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                                          • Radik
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Sep 2003
                                            • 808

                                            #71
                                            Yeah don't promo me, firefox still sucks!.

                                            It's also microsoft's fault for adding tags not defined in the standard. Shit looks like crap in firefox the css shit still looked borked to me..

                                            I'm not coding in it period..

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                                            • M_M
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2004
                                              • 1167

                                              #72
                                              Opera is not w3 compliant
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                                              • BeHeadR
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jun 2003
                                                • 1152

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by vending_machine
                                                Your spyware could very well have been installed without an exploit, through a software you downloaded or even through IE if you still use it from time to time. As far as I know there are no exploits in Mozilla/Firefox that will let someone install spyware. Have you tried AdAware http://lavasoft.de? If that fails, hit ALT+CTRL+DELETE, and check out what's running in your processlist. Do a search on Google for each one that seems suspicious and see what turns up.
                                                Is having 3 GMT.exe processes running bad?
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                                                • italianninja
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                  • 564

                                                  #74
                                                  firefox rox.

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                                                  • Tom_PMs
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                    • 2049

                                                    #75
                                                    The reason IE is exploited so much more than anything else is directly related to how much more widely distributed and used IE is compared to anything else.

                                                    Arguing that IE is exploited so much because it sucks so bad is like trying to argue that the reason that automobiles break down so much more than horse-drawn carriages is because of how shitty all automobiles are.

                                                    just felt like putting 2 cents in.

                                                    You've read it, you can't unread it.

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                                                    • ackilles
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                      • 32

                                                      #76
                                                      I don't know what this guys is talking about. Of course IE loads faster since it's shareing some of the libraries with the shell which gets loaded every time you boot your computer. Shitty argument he made...

                                                      I use firefox because of the way it handles bookmarks. If you even attempt to make an argument that the way IE manages your 'Favorites' is supperior then you're fucked. It's and ancient browser that's in desparate need of a gui overhaul.

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                                                      • Doctor Dre
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                        • 51692

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by pudcat
                                                        It bothers me to hear this kind of bullshit coming from one of the sponsors I promote.

                                                        Essentially what you are saying is that you are a lazy sponsor that doesn't give a shit about ~14% of the traffic that I could be sending you.
                                                        Ask yahoo if they want to loose 14 % of their ppl
                                                        Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                        I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                        • JoeB
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                          • 396

                                                          #78
                                                          and so michaelsw thinks to him self *FUCK I should of Posted on XBIZ
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                                                          • extreme
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                            • 2120

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by Tom_PM
                                                            The reason IE is exploited so much more than anything else is directly related to how much more widely distributed and used IE is compared to anything else.

                                                            Arguing that IE is exploited so much because it sucks so bad is like trying to argue that the reason that automobiles break down so much more than horse-drawn carriages is because of how shitty all automobiles are.

                                                            just felt like putting 2 cents in.
                                                            that's most likely a small part of the reason, but far from the major part. Microsoft has always gone for easy of use over security. You can make the same comparison between MS IIS and Apache. Apache is bigger, but IIS has had tons of very serious flaws and bugs. Microsoft haven't been concerned with security.. maybe it's changing now, but it seems like it takes 99% of the earths online population to get infected and owned by IE exploits for them to react and promise they'll make it more secure. They suck.

                                                            And it not only the tons of securityflaws that's found, it's the fucking time it takes for microsoft to release a workaround patch, sometimes months, sometimes not at all, it's sick. There's even pages dedicated to all the unpatched IEbugs that microsoft just didn't cared about to fix. Way to go.

                                                            Either they dont care or they cant actually find the root of the problems cause the IEcode is so messy. Or both.

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                                                            • Tom_PMs
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                              • 2049

                                                              #80
                                                              I agree with that, extreme..

                                                              My first copy of windows is/was Windows 286.. And it was always buggy for sure. The days of making good code were over, and the idea of releasing "patches" was born..

                                                              I do think that if it was a small timer though that it would be largely ignored. In any case, I'm cool with as many browsers as possible. I try to make simple HTML thats as backwards compatible as possible, hehe ;)

                                                              You've read it, you can't unread it.

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                                                              • Wilber
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • May 2001
                                                                • 1295

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by goBigtime
                                                                Any further questions?
                                                                Exploits from 2001? Your hurtin' to try and prove a defunct point.

                                                                Every single one of those exploits have been closed by updates. The most recent
                                                                IE exploit discovery is the ADODB.stream hole. The update was posted at Windows
                                                                Update on Friday. I guess you missed installing it because you were pasting
                                                                dinosaur'd exploits from the dark ages.
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                                                                • TweetyBird
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                  • 8532

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by juicylinks
                                                                  Hey asshole scammer were is my money?
                                                                  nice burn !!
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                                                                  • extreme
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                    • 2120

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by Tom_PM
                                                                    I agree with that, extreme..

                                                                    My first copy of windows is/was Windows 286.. And it was always buggy for sure. The days of making good code were over, and the idea of releasing "patches" was born..

                                                                    I do think that if it was a small timer though that it would be largely ignored. In any case, I'm cool with as many browsers as possible. I try to make simple HTML thats as backwards compatible as possible, hehe ;)
                                                                    ye, alternatives are good. To bad microsoft with their extreme attempts to render errornous HTMLcode and their own crappy extentions to the HTMLstandards has produced so many webpages that doesn't render properly with mozilla/firefox.

                                                                    Everything to lock the users to their technologie and make it harder to use alternatives.

                                                                    How anyone conducting onlinebiz can code IEonly pages today is beyond me. It's like saying they dont care about 10-15% (potentially alot more if it's webmaster traffic) of their traffic. Possible revenue down the shitter?

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                                                                    • extreme
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                      • 2120

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by Wilber
                                                                      Exploits from 2001? Your hurtin' to try and prove a defunct point.

                                                                      Every single one of those exploits have been closed by updates. The most recent
                                                                      IE exploit discovery is the ADODB.stream hole. The update was posted at Windows
                                                                      Update on Friday. I guess you missed installing it because you were pasting
                                                                      dinosaur'd exploits from the dark ages.
                                                                      He pasted old bugs for both browsers so it seems fair to me? IE users usually have to wait weeks or months for securitypatches. Sometimes longer, only to find out a new bug using a slighty different attack angle on the same bug is exploiting them the next week cause of the lameness of the patch. Or just something totally new.

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                                                                      • Wilber
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • May 2001
                                                                        • 1295

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by extreme
                                                                        IE users usually have to wait weeks or months for securitypatches.
                                                                        Your exaggerating time lines to try and strengthen your anti-IE point.

                                                                        It took M$ four days to create KB870669 and one more day to test it.
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                                                                        • Yngwie
                                                                          I am an Alien from space
                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                          • 11118

                                                                          #86
                                                                          firefox loads slow? WTF are you talking about? I have a P3 800 w/512mb of ram and it MAYBE takes 1 second to load up.
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                                                                          • extreme
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                            • 2120

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by Wilber
                                                                            Your exaggerating time lines to try and strengthen your anti-IE point.

                                                                            It took M$ four days to create KB870669 and one more day to test it.
                                                                            It doesn't need much strengthening? Long time ago there's been so much built up evidence that a certain piece of software is a heap of junk security/patchwise? Sure some patches have been released fast, alot haven't. There's been pages dedicated to IEbugs going unpatched for months. Way to go MS.

                                                                            http://www.google.com/search?q=%2BIE...8&start=0&sa=N

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                                                                            • Wilber
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                              • 1295

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Sure some patches have been released fast, alot haven't
                                                                              Now your just back-peddling.

                                                                              There is nothing wrong with M$ nor IE. If you think installing a third party
                                                                              browser is going to save you from the Web your living in fantasy-land.

                                                                              An operating system (server or client) is only as good as the guy config'in it.
                                                                              If your getting your ass slapped then quite blaming the developer and look
                                                                              to the real problem which has always been, and will always be, between the
                                                                              chair and the monitor.

                                                                              Surfin' with third parties and hissing and booing IE is like driving past the Ford
                                                                              factory in a Hugo and shouting "Ford sux!".
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                                                                              • extreme
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                • 2120

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by Wilber
                                                                                Now your just back-peddling.

                                                                                There is nothing wrong with M$ nor IE. If you think installing a third party
                                                                                browser is going to save you from the Web your living in fantasy-land.

                                                                                An operating system (server or client) is only as good as the guy config'in it.
                                                                                If your getting your ass slapped then quite blaming the developer and look
                                                                                to the real problem which has always been, and will always be, between the
                                                                                chair and the monitor.

                                                                                Surfin' with third parties and hissing and booing IE is like driving past the Ford
                                                                                factory in a Hugo and shouting "Ford sux!".
                                                                                I didn't say all securitypatches were slow. Too many has been though.

                                                                                No I dont think a thirdparty browser is going to 100% ensure me from from beeing exploited using client holes. I've coded alot of securityrellated apps in the past and know my way around computersecurity, *nix, firewalls, blah. Knew about the old mozilla java exploit long before it was public ;).

                                                                                But Im pretty convinced that IE is a pile of crap securitywise. And serious bugs going unpatched for a longer period of time is just not defendable no matter how you look at it.

                                                                                Sure, no apps are bugfree, but there's a pretty clear trend over the years in IEs case, fucking nightmare securityhistory. Shees, even CERT is starting to talk about switching to alternative browsers. Open your eyes.

                                                                                "Quit blaming the developer"? Right, I agree, why blame microsoft if you're getting owned cause of their lowsecurity browser, everyone is free to choose right? And that's what I've done.

                                                                                Booing them? Hell ye.

                                                                                Nice discussion in either case. Im out for the night.

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                                                                                • toddler
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                                                  • 1911

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by Wilber
                                                                                  Your exaggerating time lines to try and strengthen your anti-IE point.

                                                                                  It took M$ four days to create KB870669 and one more day to test it.

                                                                                  he's not exaggerating shit. there are still open holes from months ago that are not closed.


                                                                                  using IE in this day and in age is just like having unprotected sex in brazil. you come home and you're still fucked.
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                                                                                  • pornstar2pac
                                                                                    Omaha Hi/Lo
                                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                                    • 17380

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by juicylinks
                                                                                    It was only 400 bucks but he got a few of of us with it.

                                                                                    Just want to make sure he doesnt strike again

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                                                                                    • MrJackMeHoff
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                                      • 4569

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      I have dozens of windows machines online. Some had firefox installed and some not. Within a week all the ones where IE were used were full of spyware and homepage ownage. The firefox ones, were fine. 'Nuff said.

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                                                                                      • pudcat
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                                        • 1169

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by Radik
                                                                                        Yeah don't promo me, firefox still sucks!.

                                                                                        It's also microsoft's fault for adding tags not defined in the standard. Shit looks like crap in firefox the css shit still looked borked to me..

                                                                                        I'm not coding in it period..
                                                                                        Consider yourself having lost 100% of my traffic due to your attitude.
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                                                                                        • Rochard
                                                                                          Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                                          • 75762

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          I remember still using Netscape 3.0 long after it had gone out of style......

                                                                                          IE is the target of everything because it is the defacto standard for browsers. If Firefox was to become the most commonly used browser they would quicklky become the target of the assholes who write adware/spyware/viruses.

                                                                                          I tried Foxfire some time ago and was less than impressed.
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                                                                                          • TheDoc
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                                            • 13827

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Go get'em Juicy..

                                                                                            I tried FirFox, it does blow compaired to IE..

                                                                                            And I don't know what all the damn problems is with IE that everyone has. I honestly can run a spyware program right now and it will only come up with cookies and I haven't checked in weeks.

                                                                                            Maybe because I set IE up how I want rather than run it from the default, popup bloker is on and I have a linksys firewall.

                                                                                            I honestly, NEVER have problems with IE.

                                                                                            Could be I don't surf porn.. Seems lots of porn surfers get all kinds of fucked up shit on their machines.

                                                                                            Get a linksys firewall, so even if you do get spyware, your computer will be safe.
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                                                                                            • tony299
                                                                                              lurker
                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                              • 57021

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              I like firefox , I tried opera and didnt like the interface. With so much bullshit with ie, its worth giving it a try and so far I like it alot. I like the way its set up and havent come across any sites I had a problem looking at. In fact today I switched my parents to it , they are always getting pop ups that change their home page and some really nasty trojans.
                                                                                              Last edited by tony286; 07-04-2004, 09:27 PM.

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