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  • Giorgio_Xo
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    Facist Fundamentalist US Gov't. stops girl from abortion

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4500245.stm

    I find it funny that a judge ruled she was incapable of making her own decision, but didn't take into consideration whether she would be a capable mother! Bow down to God.

    A pregnant 13-year-old girl in Florida has been told she cannot have an abortion because she lacks the maturity to make such a decision.
    A state court granted an injunction which prevents the girl from terminating her pregnancy.

    She is three months pregnant and had planned to have an abortion on Tuesday of this week.

    The American Civil Liberties Union says it will launch an urgent appeal against the ruling.

    'Too young to choose'

    Florida's department of children and families intervened and took the matter to court, arguing the teenager, who is under the care of the state, is too young and immature to make an informed medical decision. Judge Ronald Alvarez in Palm Beach accepted that argument and has granted a temporary injunction and psychological evaluation, which effectively blocks her from terminating the pregnancy.

    It is a case which, once again, plays into the heated and divisive debate about abortion in America.

    The judge's ruling comes in spite of Florida state law which specifically does not require a minor to seek parental consent before an abortion.

    The American Civil Liberties Union 's executive director in Florida, Howard Simon, said forcing a 13-year-old to carry on an unwanted pregnancy to term, against her wishes, is not only illegal and unconstitutional, it is cruel.
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  • bringer
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    #2
    why the fuck is a 13yearold 3 months pregnant?
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    • Alex
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      #3
      Dead or Alive i feel bad for her kid.
      Fucking bitch, i hope someone other than her takes care of the kid.
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      • Dirty F
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        #4

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        • NoCarrier
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          #5
          Originally posted by bringer
          why the fuck is a 13yearold 3 months pregnant?
          Because instead of educating kids on how to avoid being pregnant using condoms and/or contraception, the religious freaks decided to close their eyes and promote abstinence as the ultimate decision from GOD.

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          • bringer
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            #6
            Originally posted by NoCarrier
            Because instead of educating kids on how to avoid being pregnant using condoms and/or contraception, the religious freaks decided to close their eyes and promote abstinence as the ultimate decision from GOD.
            so you think its ok for 13 year olds to be having sex?
            instead of educating kids that actions have consequences we give them quick fixes resulting in more inappropriate actions.
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            • Alex
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              #7
              Originally posted by NoCarrier
              Because instead of educating kids on how to avoid being pregnant using condoms and/or contraception, the religious freaks decided to close their eyes and promote abstinence as the ultimate decision from GOD.
              Absinence = 100% proof
              Condoms = Not
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              • nofx
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                #8
                what a bunch of fucking shit

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                • bringer
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Alex
                  Absinence = 100% proof
                  Condoms = Not
                  that doesnt work either. abortions should be legal but regulated. i dont think jane doe should be able to get 10+ a year because she'd rather not protect herself, the whole time possibly spreading disease.
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                  • wjxxx
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                    #10
                    Abortion would fuck up her life

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                    • jimb
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                      #11
                      this story is sad.....

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                      • Alex
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by bringer
                        that doesnt work either. abortions should be legal but regulated. i dont think jane doe should be able to get 10+ a year because she'd rather not protect herself, the whole time possibly spreading disease.
                        Im Pro-Life except in maybe rape cases.
                        Preganacies arent a mistake, she chose her path.
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                        • NoCarrier
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by bringer
                          so you think its ok for 13 year olds to be having sex?
                          instead of educating kids that actions have consequences we give them quick fixes resulting in more inappropriate actions.
                          No, it's not ok. But they are going to do it anyway. So educate them instead.

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                          • alexg
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by bringer
                            why the fuck is a 13yearold 3 months pregnant?

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                            • NoCarrier
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Alex
                              Absinence = 100% proof
                              Suuuure. Welcome to Utopia and Jesus land.

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                              • bringer
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Alex
                                Im Pro-Life except in maybe rape cases.
                                Preganacies arent a mistake, she chose her path.
                                that'll become a huge mess. better not get your gf pregnant, she might tell the people at the clinic she was raped to get the abortion.
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                                • Alex
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by NoCarrier
                                  But they are going to do it anyway.
                                  Why are you idiots living by that mentality.
                                  Just like the other thread where the mom showed her kids how to get porn.

                                  Problem - Kids are going to drink alcohol anways
                                  Solution - Allow them to drink at home so you can monitor

                                  Problem - Kids are going to smoke pot anyways
                                  Solution - Buy the pot for them so you know they are getting good stuff and not some shit that might kill them


                                  Do you realize how stupid it is.
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                                  • Alex
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by bringer
                                    that'll become a huge mess. better not get your gf pregnant, she might tell the people at the clinic she was raped to get the abortion.
                                    Didnt think of it taht way. But you are right, we have to regulate abortions in some way.

                                    Only rape doesnt work, i didn think that oen through.
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                                    • bringer
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by NoCarrier
                                      No, it's not ok. But they are going to do it anyway. So educate them instead.
                                      kids dont listen. she, like most other kids her age, think they are untouchable. the only concern in her mind was getting pregnant which can be fixed easily by getting an abortion. i guess she was wrong about that one aswell. sorry, but you cant blame jesus for this one.
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                                      • jimmyf
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                                        #20
                                        It's not the USA Govt. it's the state of Florida, we do have those here... state laws..

                                        maybe I should have said
                                        Facist Fundamentalist USA Gov't.
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Alex
                                          Problem - Kids are going to smoke pot anyways
                                          Solution - Buy the pot for them so you know they are getting good stuff and not some shit that might kill them


                                          Do you realize how stupid it is.
                                          Yes, that is tremendously stupid as even shitty pot wouldn't harm them.
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                                          • NoCarrier
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Alex
                                            Do you realize how stupid it is.
                                            I never said the solution was to encourage them in having sex.

                                            I am saying that closing their eyes isn't helping them.

                                            Educating them is the only solution. They need to learn about their own sexuality and contraception.

                                            It's like those dumbasses who think that just because you have condoms in school it's to going to encourage them. I think that it would be more responsible than acting like if a teenager didn't have a sexuality.

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                                            • bringer
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Alex
                                              Why are you idiots living by that mentality.
                                              Just like the other thread where the mom showed her kids how to get porn.

                                              Problem - Kids are going to drink alcohol anways
                                              Solution - Allow them to drink at home so you can monitor

                                              Problem - Kids are going to smoke pot anyways
                                              Solution - Buy the pot for them so you know they are getting good stuff and not some shit that might kill them


                                              Do you realize how stupid it is.
                                              i guess if you tell them not to have sex they'll do it anyways but they'll follow the advice of using protection.
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                                              • NoCarrier
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by bringer
                                                sorry, but you cant blame jesus for this one.
                                                No, but you can blame the dumbass parents who decided to close their eyes and have faith in abstinence.

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                                                • Giorgio_Xo
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                                                  #25
                                                  Florida law is very clear. The girl doesn't need anyone's permission to request and receive an abortion. This is the same exact agency that interfered with the Schiavo case.

                                                  Neo-con christians complain about activist judges? The most anti-Americans are the fundamentalists that want to turn back 200+ years of legal and social progress. These are the same exact people that were lynching black people, tarring Catholics, and baiting Jews 40 years ago. No difference. Same people, same churchs, same evil... the only thing different is that the KKK is now called the Council for American Values.
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                                                  • bringer
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by NoCarrier
                                                    No, but you can blame the dumbass parents who decided to close their eyes and have faith in abstinence.
                                                    im sure just as many kids whos parents taught them to use protection get pregnant as the parents who ignore it. these kids actions are dictated by their friends, not their parents. its like those stupid anti drug commercial, dad says dont smoke pot and the kid turns it down when offered. we dont live in lalaland, kids do whatever their peers pressure them into doing.
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                                                    • NoCarrier
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by bringer
                                                      im sure just as many kids whos parents taught them to use protection get pregnant as the parents who ignore it.
                                                      It's still not a valid reason not trying to educate them at home and school.

                                                      And it's still 100% more effective than the stupid "abstinence" point of view and people closing their eyes about it.

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                                                      • bringer
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by NoCarrier
                                                        It's still not a valid reason not trying to educate them at home and school.

                                                        And it's still 100% more effective than the stupid "abstinence" point of view and people closing their eyes about it.
                                                        both are affective and both have flaws. theres education about drinking and drugs yet kids still do them. if the parents were doing their job they'd have better control over their kids actions. parents today are more worried about tonights episode of survivor then their children. thats why kids today are 14 and 350 lbs from eating mcdonalds for breakfast and dinner each day because mommy wants to watch tv instead of prepare food. theres more to it then just telling them something and hope they listen.
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                                                        • Alex
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by NoCarrier
                                                          No, but you can blame the dumbass parents who decided to close their eyes and have faith in abstinence.
                                                          Because abstinence works agaisnt protecting pregnacies and stds
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                                                          • Alex
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by uno
                                                            Yes, that is tremendously stupid as even shitty pot wouldn't harm them.
                                                            Wow how does it feel to not only be an idiot but to be ignorant.

                                                            Weed = Drug
                                                            A drug is any substance that alters the way your body works for good or bad.
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                                                            • bringer
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Alex
                                                              Because abstinence works agaisnt protecting pregnacies and stds
                                                              yeah, it works when followed. problem is kids dont like to listen. thats where the bat comes into play.
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                                                              • wjxxx
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Alex
                                                                A drug is any substance that alters the way your body works for good or bad.
                                                                Like alcohol, coffee, tea and sugar ?

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                                                                • NoCarrier
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Alex
                                                                  Because abstinence works agaisnt protecting pregnacies and stds
                                                                  Of course it works. In an utopian society. That's not the world we live in. Sorry.

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                                                                  • Alex
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by wjxxx
                                                                    Like alcohol, coffee, tea and sugar ?
                                                                    No i forgot to add to my description that a drug is anything that alters the way your body works other than normal liquids/foods.
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                                                                    • Alex
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by NoCarrier
                                                                      Of course it works. In an utopian society. That's not the world we live in. Sorry.
                                                                      In any society. If you dont have sex it is impossible to get pregnant or STDs

                                                                      Unless you inject them manually but thats different.

                                                                      Am i saying that kdis will listen. Of course not. But i do agree that we should teach abstinence. I think most kids now how condoms and work and could get them if needed.
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                                                                      • NoCarrier
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Alex
                                                                        I think most kids now how condoms and work and could get them if needed.
                                                                        Those comments are both ignorant and irresponsible.

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                                                                        • Downtime
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Why punish the baby for the 13 year old girl's mistake? The baby has a right to live.
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by NoCarrier
                                                                            Those comments are both ignorant and irresponsible.
                                                                            No your comment was ignorant. "If they are going to have sex anways why not make it easier on them"

                                                                            Im not saying sex is bad or that we shouldnt teach them birth control im just saying that we cant just teach them about condoms and pills and not just about abstinense, a mixture of both must be applied.
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                                                                            • NoCarrier
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Alex
                                                                              No your comment was ignorant. "If they are going to have sex anways why not make it easier on them"
                                                                              No, my comments were not ignorant.

                                                                              Thinking they will be abstinent (And actually pretend the kids know everything about contraception and condoms *wow.. That was pretty pathetic*) is being irresponsible. Welcome to 2005.

                                                                              Originally posted by Alex
                                                                              Im not saying sex is bad or that we shouldnt teach them birth
                                                                              control im just saying that we cant just teach them about condoms and pills and not just about abstinense, a mixture of both must be applied.
                                                                              Wow. Amazing how you can contradict yourself, and in the same thread! Congrats!
                                                                              Last edited by NoCarrier; 05-01-2005, 12:25 PM.

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                                                                              • Paraskass
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by bringer
                                                                                so you think its ok for 13 year olds to be having sex?
                                                                                instead of educating kids that actions have consequences we give them quick fixes resulting in more inappropriate actions.
                                                                                you sir are wrong.
                                                                                there is nothing wrong with 13 year olds having sex. It is going to happen no matter what.

                                                                                It was happenning 150 years ago, and 1000 years ago.
                                                                                Do arranged marriages tell you anything? 13-14-15 year old girls beeing married and starting families earlier in the century when people we're even more religious.

                                                                                Wake the fuck up.

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                                                                                • Paraskass
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Alex
                                                                                  Why are you idiots living by that mentality.
                                                                                  Just like the other thread where the mom showed her kids how to get porn.

                                                                                  Problem - Kids are going to drink alcohol anways
                                                                                  Solution - Allow them to drink at home so you can monitor

                                                                                  Problem - Kids are going to smoke pot anyways
                                                                                  Solution - Buy the pot for them so you know they are getting good stuff and not some shit that might kill them


                                                                                  Do you realize how stupid it is.
                                                                                  OMG. once again I am shocked.
                                                                                  I can't believe you think the way you do and succeed in working in this biz.

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                                                                                  • Alex
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by NoCarrier
                                                                                    No, my comments were not ignorant.
                                                                                    Im not contridicting myself.
                                                                                    Only think amazing is how little you understand or hwo you try to put words in my mouth
                                                                                    Abstinense is the only way to fully 100% prevent STDs and Pregancies. End of discussion. Thats a fact.

                                                                                    My only opnion in this thread and the one that i still stand buy is that we need to teach both.
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                                                                                    • Alex
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Paraskass
                                                                                      OMG. once again I am shocked.
                                                                                      I can't believe you think the way you do and succeed in working in this biz.
                                                                                      Go fuck some more trannies idiot. Either make a point or stop with your idiot insults.
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                                                                                        • DX
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          abort them both, save everyone else the misery of hearing about it constantly.

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                                                                                          • hydro
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                                                                                            she'll probably end up "tripping" and killing the baby

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                                                                                            • hydro
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              what sucks even more is that in 16 years that kid is probably going to kill somebody and steal their car then the tax payers will have to pay for his jailtime

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                                                                                              • NoCarrier
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Alex
                                                                                                Abstinense is the only way to fully 100% prevent STDs and Pregancies. End of discussion. Thats a fact.
                                                                                                No shit. I never said you were wrong. Read my replies instead of ignoring them. I said you were right, but we don't live in an utopian society. Teenagers will have sex, even if don't like it. Welcome to 2005.
                                                                                                Last edited by NoCarrier; 05-01-2005, 12:34 PM.

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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  She has already proven that she is not fit to have a child, and her mother shoud be drawn and quartered.
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                                                                                                  • Alex
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by NoCarrier
                                                                                                    No shit. I never said you were wrong. Read my replies instead of ignoring them. I said you were right, but we don't live in an utopian society. Teenagers will have sex, even if don't llike it. Welcome to 2005.
                                                                                                    Not all teenagers are "currupt"

                                                                                                    The thing is teaching only abstiense wont work.
                                                                                                    But teaching birth control alone gives kids the impression that its okay only if we do it this way
                                                                                                    Im no expert but we need to find a way to teach both to make sure its more effective.
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