Please list my gallery Mr. Hun I sale you short ICQ okay?
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Originally posted by twistyneck
Please list my gallery Mr. Hun I sale you short ICQ okay?
I don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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fuck them.
these dialer hell-holes are a nightmare.Comment
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Originally posted by nickbaauw
Stop crying, you know what you are doing wrong and you 're not willing to change it so.... Stop bitching
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Originally posted by twistyneck
Please list my gallery Mr. Hun I sale you short ICQ okay? too funny!
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Guys, stick to the topic please... I'm trying to see if there are alternatives to the current situation, either in another counter or another way of the current counter....Comment
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I would never dream of using a counter from some company like sextracker
It's very simple to build a counter in PHP yourself .. I've made my own one, hosted on a small server, counting 800.000 hits a day with no problems.. the counter itself is invisible on the page..Last edited by biskoppen; 06-30-2004, 03:06 AM.Comment
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Patrick, if you're interested I can make a version of my counter you can put on your page for public download .. I have a few people using it already and they say it "rocks"
.. it counts page views and can count click thru's too (optional) .. it's VERY easy to use..
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you sound like a used car salesman... at least be smart enough to pay off an established poster to seemlessly plug you or something...Originally posted by Robertf
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Hun if I come across anything I'll be sure to post it here.Crypto HODLr
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Lol
SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.Comment
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Greenguy dont accept sites with counters anymore
"24. No sites with counters will be listed. Get some stats on your server"
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Originally posted by kmanrox
you sound like a used car salesman... at least be smart enough to pay off an established poster to seemlessly plug you or something...
Hun if I come across anything I'll be sure to post it here.
It's a freaking copy paste .. couldn't figure that out ?
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no news here. mtree / fci dialer has been operating like that for years outside the U.S. It's all free to the end user until he takes it in the ass. Scortched earth policies fuck up the market for the rest of us. Actually, it was worse in the past. They used to change the dial up modem settings of the end user to their dialer. mtree
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Stick to your guns
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i would get rid of them. no room for any shady shit around hereComment
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Why not contact Sex Tracker and see what they have to say?
Who's still over there at Flying Croc - anyone who cares?
Isn't Sleazy friends with them?Comment
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Been there, done that... What it basically comes down to every time is that they don't want to change or really don't see the problem. I was in pretty long e-mail correspondense with 'em, which was great, I know 'em from the early days and we did go back and forth a lot on some changes on their counter to perfect it. The counter is not the problem, that runs like clockwork, it's the ads behind the counter and the nature of the ads themselves (being blind and all)Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Why not contact Sex Tracker and see what they have to say?
Who's still over there at Flying Croc - anyone who cares?
Isn't Sleazy friends with them?Comment
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My counter shows exactly where each gallery gets listed - and the amount of hits each gallery gets - on each TGP.
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showing up as spyware has been going on for years, I posted this a looooooooong time ago. And sextracker's answer was a bunch of bullshit, AND people on this board went 2 bat for them which was BULLSHIT. fuck' em.Originally posted by shermsshack
Not only does this shit occur, but for some reason, any page with a sex tracker counter puts a cookie in my system that shows up in my spyware programs. I know the cookies are there to log uniques, etc, but why the fuck is it messing with my registry?
Get rid of these counters people. They are bad news and this company has no ethics.
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nedstat is fairly big and reliable - I think
http://www.nedstatbasic.net/catalogue/top1000
Adult only:
http://www.nedstatbasic.net/catalogu...?category=4500Last edited by http; 06-30-2004, 06:00 AM.Comment
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other counters I use don't get flagged as spywareOriginally posted by Equinox
If you're talking about ad-aware, many porn related cookies are flagged in those programs, although they don't mess with your registry whatsoever. It is not possible for a counter to mess with your registry, unless it installs something in the background. Cookies don't modify windoze registries. Don't ask me why spyware programs don't like em.Epic CashEpic Cash works for me
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master statsOriginally posted by The Hun
Partially agreed. I don't want to brag or anything, but I know WebSiteStory went downhill very quickly when I move from them to SexTracker. Now, obviously there were other reasons as well, but I know that having the big sites on a counter is a big help for a counter to get big. Al4A already left SexTracker ages ago, if more move from there to one other place that new player could take over the way SexTracker did when WebSiteStory went down the drain...
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Bravo. You care deaply about your products and the consumers who use them and that is why you are where you are today.Originally posted by The Hun
I was checking sites today when I came across a blind banner by SexTracker:
Well, no news there...
Clicking it brought me to http://start.sextracker.com/Pornstars/ which has the text 'FREE XXX DOWNLOAD! NO BULLSHIT - FREE HARDCORE DOWNLOAD! NO CREDITCARD NEEDED'. The instant you click the FREE download you'll be hammered with a dialer that doesn't take 'no' for an answer. I always thought advertising a dialer (that charges a lot of money) is advertised with 'FREE XXX DOWNLOAD' was a big no-no. Also, a dialer that doesn't take the simple two letter word 'no' for an answer. VERY annoying.
In detail... I click the 'FREE XXX DOWNLOAD' and get the FCI dialer right away. Obviously I click 'no'. I get a popup after that: 'You must click "yes" to continue'. HELLOOOHOOO!! BULLSHIT! A stupid, cheap attempt to make people click yes... I click 'ok' on the popup and get the dialer again. I click 'no' and get a page with blind thumbs and movies, all linked to the dialer. Many people will be fooled by those still. A blind thumb is NOT a decent way to promote a dialer... Also, there are no charges shown before the dialer is installed. In much of Europe such thing is ILLEGAL... I'm pretty sure this mtree-dialer works in the Netherlands for instance though...
Anyway, I click 'back' in an attempt to return to where I came from. Unfortunate I don't go 'back'... instead I go to http://www.mtreexxx.net/cpd/?cat=5&w...s=1+317632+the and get another dialer load. I close the dialer and check the text. 'More Free XXX Movies' linking directly to the dialer, 'Free XXX Movie Archives' linking directly to the dialer, 'Free XXX Image Archives' linking directly to the dialer. The site is titled 'Today's FREE XXX DOWNLOADS'... well... every single link on that site goes direcly to a dialer which is far from FREE... Might even be a nice case for the FTC to check out...
By now I know clicking 'back' doesn't work (ok, to make the story complete I did try more than once, came across more 'free download'-promises that linked straight to the dialer). I close the window...
I get http://www.freepicturepage.com/index.html pop up... It's a TGP, or at least it's supposed to look like that. On top of the site are blind thumbs to downloaddollars.com which start loading a dialer once you click 'em. And then, after the trades, the TGP starts...
If this is how they want to do business, fine, and I must admit that being on SexTracker is a good option for me to show advertisers the kind of traffic we draw. I know it has been good for my business. I know I send a little under 2000 people a day to that page and I have extra text on there to tell people sextracker is a counter. On other sites they're promoted with blind links like the one of top of this header.
I'm considering (as I did before) to no longer allow sextracker on galleries posted on The Hun. Surfers are tricked into installing and running dialers. Dialers are not a problem, as long as it's clear to the consumer what it is and that it's definately NOT free. These tactics are definately a blunt attempt to mislead consumers, which is why I don't want to link to it... Also, the fact that people are trapped and as a bonus a popup to another TGP is shown makes me post this here.
Now, some will be temped to say 'take this up with SexTracker'... I did. More than once. With obviously no result. I will have to take stronger measures. If there are good counters out there that don't have these tricks behind 'em let me know here, and I'll forward people that submit a sextracker counter on a gallery to a page with alternatives. I can not accept this much longer. It goes against pretty much everything The Hun stands for.
You know that! I just want to make sure everyone else does.Regards,
Rick Latona
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Stupid as it may seem to even say this (as I am sure many others might get a giggle from me saying so) but I believe we can offer what you are looking for at dirtystats.com. We are in the process of developing a counter at the moment, and we have one of the best php coders in the biz on our team, and we are willing to invest time and money. Although I doubt highly you would, but if you want to talk about exactly what you are looking for please hit me up and we will obviously take your opinion and suggestions and implement them. We are not about a quick buck, we want to build a solid long-term solution that can remain moderatly profitable for us to run. 344709237 is my ICQ, and although I doubt you wil hit me, I assure you if you do wish to do so your suggestions will be taken into account, implemented and online in the near future. For the rest of you, flame away.Originally posted by The Hun
Partially agreed. I don't want to brag or anything, but I know WebSiteStory went downhill very quickly when I move from them to SexTracker. Now, obviously there were other reasons as well, but I know that having the big sites on a counter is a big help for a counter to get big. Al4A already left SexTracker ages ago, if more move from there to one other place that new player could take over the way SexTracker did when WebSiteStory went down the drain...
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Yupz, some of the major linklists started banning any kind of visible counter in the last weeks. They all swear with server stats (AWstats and so) but somehow these stats don't always give you what theses free counters give you. Like detailed stats per day and so..hardlinks for sale - ICQ 24298240 - links*at*smilinpussy.comComment
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I agreeOriginally posted by Fonz
but somehow these stats don't always give you what theses free counters give you. Like detailed stats per day and so..Epic CashEpic Cash works for me
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Pfff.. I'm just read all the comments about the sextracker and I agree it is lame. Rebuild or redesign it, is no big deal. But the solution you are claiming based on php is probaly much lamer than the sextracker technology. I'm a C and C++ coder and build lots of times small stats collecting programs. If you are working with php.. well.. than you dont have any idea what you are doing. You cant run it all in memory so it has to write his data to disk. That's very expensive and it makes it slow. Do you have a small idea about how much data we are talking. All running and collecting, indexing and publishing on the fly. PHP is maybe nice to build the front end enviroment, not the backend for this large numbers. You have to build a scheduling and collector proces that can run in mem. No diskaccess at all. My advice to anyone who want's to join this technology, let it go. No I dont have a own product, as I told before I'm just a coder and stats programs can you get every were for free on the net.Originally posted by Odin88
Stupid as it may seem to even say this (as I am sure many others might get a giggle from me saying so) but I believe we can offer what you are looking for at dirtystats.com. We are in the process of developing a counter at the moment, and we have one of the best php coders in the biz on our team, and we are willing to invest time and money. Although I doubt highly you would, but if you want to talk about exactly what you are looking for please hit me up and we will obviously take your opinion and suggestions and implement them. We are not about a quick buck, we want to build a solid long-term solution that can remain moderatly profitable for us to run. 344709237 is my ICQ, and although I doubt you wil hit me, I assure you if you do wish to do so your suggestions will be taken into account, implemented and online in the near future. For the rest of you, flame away.
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Just my two cents
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sextracker is going the way of porngraph...
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What counter program is that anyway?Originally posted by biskoppen
My counter shows exactly where each gallery gets listed - and the amount of hits each gallery gets - on each TGP.
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Patrick, I thought you'd like to know that I just clicked on the sex tracker banner from Panama and I got a persistent No Credit Card dialer.
Why do you, Mad Thumbs and the rest put the sex tracker image on the top of your page? What could you possibly gain by this?Regards,
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lolComment
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well your a smeg head for putting sextracker on your site.
you giot!!
hehe
mr flibble is cominghahahahahahahahaha
once upon a time i had something to put here!!!!Comment
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Make your own counter program and make the pages you list use it too!Last edited by Nick; 06-30-2004, 08:26 AM.Comment
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Obviously you don't know much about PHPOriginally posted by Clemenza
Pfff.. I'm just read all the comments about the sextracker and I agree it is lame. Rebuild or redesign it, is no big deal. But the solution you are claiming based on php is probaly much lamer than the sextracker technology. I'm a C and C++ coder and build lots of times small stats collecting programs. If you are working with php.. well.. than you dont have any idea what you are doing. You cant run it all in memory so it has to write his data to disk. That's very expensive and it makes it slow. Do you have a small idea about how much data we are talking. All running and collecting, indexing and publishing on the fly. PHP is maybe nice to build the front end enviroment, not the backend for this large numbers. You have to build a scheduling and collector proces that can run in mem. No diskaccess at all. My advice to anyone who want's to join this technology, let it go. No I dont have a own product, as I told before I'm just a coder and stats programs can you get every were for free on the net.
Just my two cents
Clemenza
It supports sockets so you can even build your own web server with PHP if you wanted to. This means you can just use memory or shared memory without having to do disk access.
You can even use mysql with this, as it supports HEAP tables which stay resident in memory, so you get to use database features without having to make disk accesses. Indexes and such will make it extremely fast to deal with data.
just my
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Whats the problem?. If you dont like Sextracker rules, go list your site somewhere else. Isnt that what you tell people to do when the grumble about your rules?Originally posted by The Hun
Been there, done that... What it basically comes down to every time is that they don't want to change or really don't see the problem. I was in pretty long e-mail correspondense with 'em, which was great, I know 'em from the early days and we did go back and forth a lot on some changes on their counter to perfect it. The counter is not the problem, that runs like clockwork, it's the ads behind the counter and the nature of the ads themselves (being blind and all)Im here to help surfers find relevant contentComment
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hun could make a thread called "my balls itch. Somebody scratch em" and it would go at least three pagesComment
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Don't mean to answer for The Hun, but if you put it at the bottom of your page it tends to count a lot less traffic...... atleast this has been my experiencedOriginally posted by Rick Latona
Patrick, I thought you'd like to know that I just clicked on the sex tracker banner from Panama and I got a persistent No Credit Card dialer.
Why do you, Mad Thumbs and the rest put the sex tracker image on the top of your page? What could you possibly gain by this?Comment
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Alot of people won't wait for the entire page to load (especially if you're on 56k). Hence if the Sextracker button is at the bottom it won't load and count the true amount of hits.Originally posted by Rick Latona
Patrick, I thought you'd like to know that I just clicked on the sex tracker banner from Panama and I got a persistent No Credit Card dialer.
Why do you, Mad Thumbs and the rest put the sex tracker image on the top of your page? What could you possibly gain by this?
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If you keep looking after your surfers, your already looking after your webmasters.Comment
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That doesn't make any sense. It isn't that hard to control what loads first. At the very least, why don't you just put it as an image preload in the header?Originally posted by DrinkingHard
Alot of people won't wait for the entire page to load (especially if you're on 56k). Hence if the Sextracker button is at the bottom it won't load and count the true amount of hits.
DHRegards,
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I'd rather count money
But seriously, I think the dialer issue is a browser security issue/active-x client side issue. If you set your security higher than default, it should take "no" for an answer. Lower security, it'll basically take your settings as a "yes" before it asks. Kinda sorta..
You've read it, you can't unread it.Comment
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Bring back Websidestory's Hitbox counter!!!!!!
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Ban em, fucking counters are bullshit on galleries anyway
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Originally posted by Rick Latona
Why do you, Mad Thumbs and the rest put the sex tracker image on the top of your page? What could you possibly gain by this?
It helps the counter's accuracy. If you put it down on the bottom, more surfers won't load the page all the way and the counter won't count the hit.Comment
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That's the point, when a dialer company make these fishy things with the download windows, without giving to the user the option to say not.. it is when people starts to think bad about the rest of dialr companies..Originally posted by The Hun
Dialers are not a problem, as long as it's clear to the consumer what it is and that it's definately NOT free. These tactics are definately a blunt attempt to mislead consumers, which is why I don't want to link to it... Also, the fact that people are trapped and as a bonus a popup to another TGP is shown makes me post this here.
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j*vasc*ipt is executed at the very end of a page. Only way to get somethign to load BEFORE the rest is via a script src="" tag, and we all saw how the new PornGraph owners misused that...Originally posted by Rick Latona
That doesn't make any sense. It isn't that hard to control what loads first. At the very least, why don't you just put it as an image preload in the header?Last edited by Nathan; 06-30-2004, 12:09 PM."Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
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Have you tried http://www.paycounter.comOriginally posted by The Hun
Guys, stick to the topic please... I'm trying to see if there are alternatives to the current situation, either in another counter or another way of the current counter....Comment
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Would an I-Frame make it faster?Originally posted by Nathan
j*vasc*ipt is executed at the very end of a page. Only way to get somethign to load BEFORE the rest is via a script src="" tag, and we all saw how the new PornGraph owners misused that...Regards,
Rick Latona
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I've been using http://www.phpee.com/index.php for most of galleries however it never gets past the submission page. I'm not a programmer so I wouldn't know what types of problems it can cause - I just know that it's very very detailed and easy to set up on your own servers - no advertising - no redirect - no bullshit. Perhaps (if you have the time) one of you can look at it and tell me why it is blocked - what is threatening about it?Originally posted by The Hun
Guys, stick to the topic please... I'm trying to see if there are alternatives to the current situation, either in another counter or another way of the current counter....
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