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    • Apr 2003
    • 17706
    #1

    My Best TIP for TGPs

    Best advice I can give to TGPs is create a top list on your site, like on the right or left side of your page. Putting them at the bottom will send less to your trades and thus less back for you.

    I also recommend that you don't send blind traffic to the top 5 sites that send you the most productive traffic.
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    • zdwebber
      So Fucking Banned
      • Feb 2004
      • 768
      #2
      nice tip ;)
      http://www.hqbang.com I have that on my site and it does send out a lot more hits than a TL on the bottom.
      However, I am thinking of removing it and putting in more thumbs...
      I dont think only 25 thumbs per table is good for bookmarkers...

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        • AdPatron
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          • Apr 2003
          • 17706
          #3
          Maybe also stop sending traffic to trades through thumbs. It's pretty pointless.

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            • Dirty Dane
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              • Feb 2004
              • 9491
              #4
              Originally posted by CollegeSucks
              Maybe also stop sending traffic to trades through thumbs. It's pretty pointless.
              Can only agree with that.

              Also, I think sending blind/force traffic, not only to top 5, but to all traders is bad. I cannot see the point in this:

              "A send 20 % blind traffic to B, and B send 20 % blind traffic to A". You end up with same amount of traffic, but with more "pissed" surfers They might leave your site = lost potential sales (and lost bookmarkers). Both you and your trader will loose.


              In the end it's all about sales, right? Traffic is nice, but I rather prefer bigger bankaccount. Believe me, a TGP with 50K can earn more money, in total, than a TGP with 100K if the surfers feels comfortable with your site. If you cannot make 50K, then make several clean sites, until you have 50K in total!

              The keyword of succesfull TGP is not gaining high traffic asap. It's all about beeing patient, and your quality traffic will come.
              Think as the surfer (your potential buyer); "hey this girl looks great, I wanna see more of her" He clicks and end up on another freesite? No money 4u! Send him where your really want him to go, and after you sent him to your excellent sponsor, he might come back and click on your trades later
              Last edited by Dirty Dane; 06-29-2004, 11:16 AM.

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                • tolik
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                  • Jun 2001
                  • 2035
                  #5
                  oh yea....

                  beat my ratio at my favorite teens sponsor what i promote at site full of blink links, consoles, dialers and other cool "non-tgp" things:

                  1:211 this period

                  1:287 per last 6 month.

                  and after this post thing like this.
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                    • AdPatron
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                      #6
                      I average about 1:19 with sponsors I use and I don't use any blind links on my site. Productivity to my trades is as high as 588%.

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                        • tolik
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                          • Jun 2001
                          • 2035
                          #7
                          Originally posted by CollegeSucks
                          I average about 1:19 with sponsors I use and I don't use any blind links on my site. Productivity to my trades is as high as 588%.
                          i bet i have better ratio at FEB - 1:7 average.
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                            • cambaby
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 3141
                              #8
                              Do repeat visitors really spend money in the long run? I was always under the impression that most repeat visitors want FREE porn.

                              I ran a TGP on my site for a bit with a traffic trading script, it did work for awhile but I would have had to continue to search for trades and buy new traffic occasionally to keep things growing. It was quite disappointing. I did get some sales at decent conversion rates with what little I was generating but it slowed down and I noticed many repeat visitors because I wasnt skimming alot off the bat.

                              In short do repeat visitors spend money seriously?

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                                • AdPatron
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                                  #9
                                  i bet i have better ratio at FEB - 1:7 average.


                                  Well, 1:19 is my adverage on a whole. I do have some that get to 1:3 repeatedly. I have to appreciate it when sponsors give you the ability to create campaigns and analyze each.

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                                    • AdPatron
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                                      • Apr 2003
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                                      #10
                                      Do repeat visitors really spend money in the long run? I was always under the impression that most repeat visitors want FREE porn.

                                      I ran a TGP on my site for a bit with a traffic trading script, it did work for awhile but I would have had to continue to search for trades and buy new traffic occasionally to keep things growing. It was quite disappointing. I did get some sales at decent conversion rates with what little I was generating but it slowed down and I noticed many repeat visitors because I wasnt skimming alot off the bat.

                                      In short do repeat visitors spend money seriously?

                                      A majority of my traffic comes from bookmarks and they are who convert best for me.

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                                        • Dirty Dane
                                          Sick Fuck
                                          • Feb 2004
                                          • 9491
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by tolik
                                          oh yea....

                                          beat my ratio at my favorite teens sponsor what i promote at site full of blink links, consoles, dialers and other cool "non-tgp" things:

                                          1:211 this period

                                          1:287 per last 6 month.

                                          and after this post thing like this.
                                          The subject was traffic trading.

                                          But since you mention it, I hate comparing ratios, because those are relative numbers:

                                          - The ratio at your sponsors stats
                                          - The ratio of your website

                                          If you send 211 surfers to your sponsor, and 1 of them signs up, is good. But this does not help, if you send rest of the surfers elsewhere, right? It's about productivity, as CollegeSucks says.

                                          btw, I have a smaller teen sponsor with ratio 1:80-100 for 3 years now
                                          Last edited by Dirty Dane; 06-29-2004, 03:56 PM.

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                                            • Dirty Dane
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                                              • Feb 2004
                                              • 9491
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by cambaby
                                              Do repeat visitors really spend money in the long run? I was always under the impression that most repeat visitors want FREE porn.

                                              I ran a TGP on my site for a bit with a traffic trading script, it did work for awhile but I would have had to continue to search for trades and buy new traffic occasionally to keep things growing. It was quite disappointing. I did get some sales at decent conversion rates with what little I was generating but it slowed down and I noticed many repeat visitors because I wasnt skimming alot off the bat.

                                              In short do repeat visitors spend money seriously?
                                              Most repeated visitors wants free porn. No doubt about that, otherwise you would have better ratio than 1:2

                                              Seriously, I think it is more about how you "design" your site, and which impressions you give the surfer. If you "tell" the surfer to get out of there and not to bookmark your site, then you are driving wrong way.
                                              Yeah, find the balance between free and sale focusing, and you will succeed.

                                              And most important of all: The cookie based ref-codes, like the CCBill ones, expires after some time. So even if you send someone to paysite, does not mean that you will get the credit if they sign up days later
                                              So what can you do about that? Give them the impression of that YOUR site is the "startpage", let them surf from there. And then you need bookmarkers

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                                                • tolik
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                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                  • 2035
                                                  #13
                                                  well - i cannot disagree with you.

                                                  i have arround 4-9% banners CTR at site what im talking about - similar to my other sites banners CTR.

                                                  need a calculator for figure why i like blind links and other nice things?
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                                                    • Dirty Dane
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                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                      • 9491
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by tolik


                                                      need a calculator for figure why i like blind links and other nice things? [/B]
                                                      No, I do not need that, because I know excactly what you mean.

                                                      There are several "ways" to make money. I choose not to throw dialers and other shit at surfers. In fact, I think it should be illegal, because it f... up the reputation of adult industry on www. No fence, but just my opinion; less experienced surfers should have the opportunity to choose what they want on their computer. It's like everything else; you don't force people what to eat or wear. At least not in my hometown..

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                                                        • cambaby
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                          • 3141
                                                          #15
                                                          So CollegeTraffic which toplist script do you recommend?

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                                                            • tolik
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                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                              • 2035
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                                              . It's like everything else; you don't force people what to eat or wear. At least not in my hometown..
                                                              i respect your opinion.

                                                              but working and buying traffic for get bookmarkers - it like give almost all your money to homeless.

                                                              i buying about 10-30k of traffic dayly - so i need to cover this.
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                                                                • Dirty Dane
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                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                  • 9491
                                                                  #17
                                                                  I never bought traffic. How much does that cost, and who sell traffic?

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                                                                    • tolik
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                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                      • 2035
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Ravo

                                                                      http://www.fpctraffic.com/buy.html

                                                                      best price/quality as for me.
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                                                                        • Dirty Dane
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                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                          • 9491
                                                                          #19
                                                                          I don't know much about buying traffic, but traders sounds cheaper to me

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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by cambaby
                                                                              So CollegeTraffic which toplist script do you recommend?

                                                                              I write all my own scripts.

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                                                                                • AdPatron
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by tolik
                                                                                  Ravo

                                                                                  http://www.fpctraffic.com/buy.html

                                                                                  best price/quality as for me.


                                                                                  Why buy when you can get it for free? All you have to do is trade links and not send each other blind traffic.

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                                                                                    • tolik
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                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                      • 2035
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by CollegeSucks
                                                                                      Why buy when you can get it for free? All you have to do is trade links and not send each other blind traffic.
                                                                                      seems you dont have any economical skills.

                                                                                      you know only one - "...dont send me blind traffic...."

                                                                                      when you stop earning enought cash for pay per hamburger in mcdonalds one or 2 times per month - then maybe you figure what i mean.

                                                                                      nothing personal - but seems you dont have enought skills for do something real - and man - your Ctrl-V reply to any topic - annoying.
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                                                                                        • AdPatron
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          seems you dont have any economical skills. you know only one - "...dont send me blind traffic...." when you stop earning enought cash for pay per hamburger in mcdonalds one or 2 times per month - then maybe you figure what i mean. nothing personal - but seems you dont have enought skills for do something real - and man - your Ctrl-V reply to any topic - annoying.


                                                                                          At least I can spell and know proper sentence structure. Hear the bell? Someone is going to get schooled today.

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                                                                                            • tolik
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                                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                                              • 2035
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by CollegeSucks
                                                                                              At least I can spell and know proper sentence structure. Hear the bell? Someone is going to get schooled today.
                                                                                              you mean you should go to college right now and you post your other 'clever' comments when you back?
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  you mean you should go to college right now and you post your other 'clever' comments when you back?


                                                                                                  Do you ever make sense?

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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      I guess it finally shut up -lol.

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