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  • theking
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    • Sep 2002
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    #1

    I just watched Farenheit 911

    There was nothing new in the film that has not been presented before...in addition Moore's twisting of facts...inuendo and highly biased point of view made the film pretty much BS in my opinion. Only the uniformed or misinformed will take this film seriously...but then again Moore himself once said on the now defunct Politically Correct show...that he is about entertaining and was laughing all the way to the bank.
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  • Headless
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    • Jan 2001
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    #2
    You dl it?

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    • axelcat
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      • Jun 2002
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      #3
      I still want to see it

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      • theking
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        • Sep 2002
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        #4
        Originally posted by Headless
        You dl it?
        Yes...and burned it to DVD and watched it via TV and DVD player.
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        • M_M
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          • May 2004
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          #5
          Whatever your opinion about the movie is, it is just big.

          Millions have seen it already, and more will.


          You believe what you choose to believe. There is a mask for everything, it's your choice not to try to see behind it.
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          • Mr.Fiction
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            • Feb 2002
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            #6
            Originally posted by theking
            Only the uniformed or misinformed will take this film seriously...
            Coming from someone like you, who fits both criteria, that's really funny.
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            • directfiesta
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              • Oct 2002
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              #7
              Originally posted by theking
              in addition Moore's twisting of facts...
              Can't beat Bush twisting ....

              - WMD ...
              I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

              But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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              • theking
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                • Sep 2002
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                #8
                Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                Coming from someone like you, who fits both criteria, that's really funny.
                Ahh...Mr.Fiction...the creator of fiction.
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                • VeriSexy
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                  #9
                  How are they twisted facts when 90% of it was clips from the media?
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                  • Theo
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                    • May 2001
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by theking
                    Yes...and burned it to DVD and watched it via TV and DVD player.
                    this sir is illegal :-)

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                    • marcu5
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                      • Oct 2002
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                      #11
                      Yes, and what exactly did they twist around? I know you will turn around and just call me an idiot because you can't get the thoughts from your brain to the keyboard -- BUT Please explain what you thought was biased about it?

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                      • baddog
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                        • Apr 2001
                        • 107089

                        #12
                        Originally posted by VeriSexy
                        How are they twisted facts when 90% of it was clips from the media?
                        for example . . . there is a clip of Bush talking about how terrorism must end . . . the movie implies that he is talking about Al-queda or Iraq, when in fact he was talking about Palestinians blowing up buses in Israel . . . .

                        That is twisting facts using clips from the media.

                        Have you ever watched the Daily Show? He constantly uses media clips to twist the facts . . . the difference is, people know it is a comedy show.

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                        • 4Pics
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                          #13
                          it was good and worth paying to see. You can never believe everything you see/hear/read/watch anyway.

                          Hopefully it helps bush not get re-elected.

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                          • Tom_PMs
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                            #14
                            I think it's disgusting that theres apparently a clip of Dubya saying that bin laden was "marginalized". By who?

                            I dont know about the rest of america or the world, but I still want that fuckers head on a pike!

                            You've read it, you can't unread it.

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                            • Buddy
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                              #15
                              Without reading your post here is my guess:

                              if you are conservative:
                              It was a bunch of baseless accuastions and half truths streched to appear like it was fact. It was also a rehashing of things that no one cares about anymore, like the 2000 elections.

                              if you are liberal:
                              It was a moving piece filled with real stories that the media was scared to pick up for fear of pissing off the administration.

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                              • Khun
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Buddy
                                Without reading your post here is my guess:

                                if you are conservative:
                                It was a bunch of baseless accuastions and half truths streched to appear like it was fact. It was also a rehashing of things that no one cares about anymore, like the 2000 elections.

                                if you are liberal:
                                It was a moving piece filled with real stories that the media was scared to pick up for fear of pissing off the administration.

                                Am I right?
                                Lol!!! Personally I think Michael Moore is a rat bastard. I dont need to defend my idea because its mine and I dont care what others think. I just hope that at the end of the day, more people are on my side...
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                                • dig420
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                                  #17
                                  another thread with republican stupidity on parade?

                                  tell us again how you're really a liberal pathfinder

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                                  • baddog
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by dig420
                                    another thread with republican stupidity on parade?

                                    tell us again how you're really a liberal pathfinder
                                    So it is your contention that one can not be a Democrat, and a liberal and see that Moore is twisting the truth to suit his own needs/agenda?

                                    Hmmm, for some reason I thought you were smarter than that. . . . my bad

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                                    • theking
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Buddy
                                      Without reading your post here is my guess:

                                      if you are conservative:
                                      It was a bunch of baseless accuastions and half truths streched to appear like it was fact. It was also a rehashing of things that no one cares about anymore, like the 2000 elections.

                                      if you are liberal:
                                      It was a moving piece filled with real stories that the media was scared to pick up for fear of pissing off the administration.

                                      Am I right?
                                      My political stance is that of a moderate with liberal leanings...so no you are not right.
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                                      • pimplink
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                                        #20
                                        Bush is really messed up

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                                        • Ian
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                                          #21
                                          Michael Moore is an interesting guy. I enjoy his stuff and keep a large grain of salt with me while viewing.

                                          I'm looking forward to seeing "Farenheit" and all the while i'll be thinking "free speech".

                                          I'm Canadian and enjoyed his views on the gun problem and he made some good points.

                                          In our election which was held yesterday he was widely quoted worldwide when he told us we would be fools to vote for the Conservative Party up here.

                                          Personally, I thought that he was taking the American view of free speech just a little too far and also now wonder if he affected our sovereign electoral process.

                                          I also wondered about the newspapers and media that are "bought dogs of Capitalism", who published his thoughts.

                                          He's got lots of opinions and i'm sure we'll hear a bunch of them if he wins an Oscar for this.

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                                          • tony299
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                                            #22
                                            What was his twisting he used news footage them saying their own words. lol It must be tough being a sheep and
                                            I quote Teddy:

                                            "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."


                                            -- President Theodore Roosevelt (1918) and he was a republican

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                                            • rambler
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                              So it is your contention that one can not be a Democrat, and a liberal and see that Moore is twisting the truth to suit his own needs/agenda?

                                              Hmmm, for some reason I thought you were smarter than that. . . . my bad
                                              You actually believe that pathfinder is a liberal?

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                                              • Ian
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                                                • Oct 2002
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                                                #24
                                                tony404:

                                                Thanks for posting that. Great quote, never read that one.

                                                He also said; "Speak softly but carry a big stick".

                                                I think Michael Moore likes Teddy too.

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                                                • Pornwolf
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                                                  • Jan 2002
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by dig420
                                                  another thread with republican stupidity on parade?

                                                  tell us again how you're really a liberal pathfinder
                                                  I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

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                                                  • theking
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by tony404
                                                    What was his twisting he used news footage them saying their own words. lol It must be tough being a sheep and
                                                    I quote Teddy:

                                                    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."


                                                    -- President Theodore Roosevelt (1918) and he was a republican
                                                    I am a critic of President Bush on almost every issue other than the take down of the Taliban and the take down of Saddam and the Baath party...the declared war on Global "terrorism" and his policy of pre-emption...which I happen to agree with. Sheep...I think not.
                                                    Last edited by theking; 06-29-2004, 07:11 PM.
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                                                    • jayeff
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by theking
                                                      There was nothing new in the film that has not been presented before...in addition Moore's twisting of facts...inuendo and highly biased point of view made the film pretty much BS in my opinion. Only the uniformed or misinformed will take this film seriously...
                                                      Well of course your highly biased point of view hardly comes as a surprise. And at least you have only accused Moore or twisting facts and not of making them up, so we'll let that go.

                                                      But perhaps you can explain the "uniformed and misinformed" comment? As you correctly point out, everything in the film has been presented before (Moore himself said that on TV a few nights ago) and for sure the "underground" media has covered them. Were they the only sources, I suppose you could try shooting the messenger and ignore the message. Except that almost everything appeared originally in solid media resources either here or abroad. Some appeared, all be it as throwaways that weren't followed up or buried in the mainstream media here.

                                                      Exactly how does someone who doesn't restrict themselves to gathering news from Fox and CNN qualify as "uniformed"?

                                                      And if "misinformed", isn't that the same as saying that Moore got his facts wrong? If so, would you care to provide details? Moore isn't pretending he presented a balanced point of view, but I'm still waiting for someone to catch him out in a specific lie in F911.

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                                                      • Mr.Fiction
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                                        for example . . . there is a clip of Bush talking about how terrorism must end . . . the movie implies that he is talking about Al-queda or Iraq, when in fact he was talking about Palestinians blowing up buses in Israel . . . .
                                                        When does the movie imply that? Please point it out specifically.

                                                        Is Bush talking about terrorism or is he not? The movie is partially about Bush's "war on terror" Are you saying that blowing up buses is not terrorism?

                                                        You are making things up about the movie, not Moore.
                                                        Last edited by Mr.Fiction; 06-29-2004, 07:29 PM.
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                                                        • baddog
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by rambler
                                                          You actually believe that pathfinder is a liberal?
                                                          who said shit about him? I am, and I still say Moore is full of shit

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                                                          • jayeff
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                                            for example . . . there is a clip of Bush talking about how terrorism must end . . . the movie implies that he is talking about Al-queda or Iraq, when in fact he was talking about Palestinians blowing up buses in Israel . . . .
                                                            Hmmm...

                                                            I would have thought the real point was "here is your President, a man who claims to be concerned about terrorists, someone you would expect and want to be concerned about terrorists, delivering a sound-bite about terrorists with absolutely zero sincerity".

                                                            As a comment on the president's character, it is irrelevant which terrorists he was talking about.

                                                            I suppose if we want to put a positive slant on the clip, we could be grateful he took even those few seconds off from his round of golf.

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                                                            • rambler
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                                              who said shit about him? I am, and I still say Moore is full of shit
                                                              You don't sound like a liberal (ie: Thinking Bush is doing a great job) ; maybe I am wrong and all of Bush's (and his party's) ideaologies are really liberal

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                                                              • NBDesign
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                                                                #32
                                                                My favorite part was when he was in the classroom and got the news we were being attacked... Now that "Duhhhhhh" look on his face was CLASSIC! Then instead of getting up and excusing himself... he picks up a fucking book and starts reading with the kids....

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                                                                • BlingDaddy
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by theking
                                                                  There was nothing new in the film that has not been presented before...in addition Moore's twisting of facts...inuendo and highly biased point of view made the film pretty much BS in my opinion. Only the uniformed or misinformed will take this film seriously...but then again Moore himself once said on the now defunct Politically Correct show...that he is about entertaining and was laughing all the way to the bank.
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                                                                  • BlingDaddy
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                    Can't beat Bush twisting ....

                                                                    - WMD ...
                                                                    Of course... there were no "wmd"... just ask the 7000+ dead kurds... oh,... wait they can't talk... they're dead.
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                                                                    • NBDesign
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by BlingDaddy
                                                                      Welcome to the world of John Kerry. Bush may thump a bible, but he's willing to defend the US despite political motivation.
                                                                      Yeah.... Iraq was not political... I give you that... it was PURELY financial

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                                                                      • Apollo
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                                        this sir is illegal :-)
                                                                        Nah, I'm sure he had written permission from the distributors. It's just been misplaced

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                                                                        • Apollo
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by BlingDaddy
                                                                          Welcome to the world of John Kerry. Bush may thump a bible, but he's willing to defend the US despite political motivation.
                                                                          He's more interested in financial motivation =)

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                                                                          • BlingDaddy
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by NBDesign
                                                                            Yeah.... Iraq was not political... I give you that... it was PURELY financial
                                                                            Yeah... we all lost BILLIONS by helping... what a good deal. Not only that, but we saved little girls from being raped by Saddams sons, and people having their hands cut off for disagreeing.

                                                                            It was financial... but I'll pay my tax dollars to stop a threat like that.
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                                                                            • tony299
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by BlingDaddy
                                                                              Welcome to the world of John Kerry. Bush may thump a bible, but he's willing to defend the US despite political motivation.
                                                                              You cant really believe that lol

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                                                                              • Matt Frackas
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by theking
                                                                                There was nothing new in the film that has not been presented before...in addition Moore's twisting of facts...inuendo and highly biased point of view made the film pretty much BS in my opinion. Only the uniformed or misinformed will take this film seriously...but then again Moore himself once said on the now defunct Politically Correct show...that he is about entertaining and was laughing all the way to the bank.

                                                                                What? George Bush doesnt twist facts? use innuendo?
                                                                                or have a bias towards raping Iraq for OIL while using the "FEAR" of WMD to sell the war?

                                                                                he doesnt have the largest propaganda machine in the world?

                                                                                Wake up.

                                                                                PS...I dont know if you noticed ...but it is now an UNBIASED FACT...that Irag DOESNT NOT HAVE WMD!
                                                                                So WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE THERE FOR?

                                                                                DOH


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                                                                                • BlingDaddy
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Apollo
                                                                                  He's more interested in financial motivation =)
                                                                                  Bush? Dude... his whole family is set for life... ask any Texan... Kerry's also set for LIFE... he's married to the Heinz fortune. This is about getting the seat.

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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Matt Frackas
                                                                                    [B

                                                                                    PS...I dont know if you noticed ...but it is now an UNBIASED FACT...that Irag DOESNT NOT HAVE WMD!


                                                                                    [/B]
                                                                                    Once again... under the regime of Saddam.... WMD were used "as a test" against his own people (the kurds). Anyone who thinks he wasnt looking to fire a nuke at the US is retarded.
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                                                                                    • theking
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Matt Frackas

                                                                                      So WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE THERE FOR?

                                                                                      DOH
                                                                                      "DOH"...it is clear to me that your mental capacity would not allow for understanding why we are there...kid.
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                                                                                      • BlingDaddy
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Matt Frackas
                                                                                        What? George Bush doesnt twist facts? use innuendo?
                                                                                        or have a bias towards raping Iraq for OIL

                                                                                        DOH
                                                                                        This is another "misinformation" We haven't TOUCHED Iraqs oil. Are your gas prices going down? It has been clear that no American interests are about oil. This is silly misinformation. As a matter of fact... Saddam set TRENCHES of oil on fire to cloud the skies when we came to get him.
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                                                                                        • theking
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                                                          this sir is illegal :-)
                                                                                          Shhh...I sometimes exceed the speed limit to.
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                                                                                          • Matt Frackas
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by theking
                                                                                            "DOH"...it is clear to me that your mental capacity would not allow for understanding why we are there...kid.
                                                                                            Hey

                                                                                            Educate us.

                                                                                            Go for it.


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                                                                                            • Matt Frackas
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by BlingDaddy
                                                                                              This is another "misinformation" We haven't TOUCHED Iraqs oil. Are your gas prices going down? It has been clear that no American interests are about oil. This is silly misinformation. As a matter of fact... Saddam set TRENCHES of oil on fire to cloud the skies when we came to get him.
                                                                                              um whats Haliburton doing there?


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                                                                                              • theking
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by BlingDaddy
                                                                                                This is another "misinformation" We haven't TOUCHED Iraqs oil. Are your gas prices going down? It has been clear that no American interests are about oil. This is silly misinformation. As a matter of fact... Saddam set TRENCHES of oil on fire to cloud the skies when we came to get him.
                                                                                                In addition it has been announced that the new Iraqi government has control of the oil and the funds from same are to go into a "Reconstruction Fund" apparently to be supervised by the UN. Which to me sounds like a bad idea since the UN is investigating the corruption in the now defunct "Oil for Food Program"...which was under UN supervision. It appears that the $200 billion or so that the tax payer has been out for the cost of the war and reconstruction...up to this point...will not be reimbursed.
                                                                                                Last edited by theking; 06-29-2004, 08:47 PM.
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                                                                                                • xxxjay
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  I wrote this on CJ today about it:
                                                                                                  http://www.consumptionjunction.com/home.asp
                                                                                                  http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                                                                  • theking
                                                                                                    Nice Kitty
                                                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                                                    • 21053

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Matt Frackas
                                                                                                    Hey

                                                                                                    Educate us.

                                                                                                    Go for it.
                                                                                                    I have...multiple times...do a search if you are interested...as I do not intend to do it again...kid.
                                                                                                    When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

                                                                                                    FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...http://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

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