Supreme Court Rejects COPA AGAIN!!!!!

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • scoreman
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2001
    • 1491

    #1

    Supreme Court Rejects COPA AGAIN!!!!!

    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040629/D83GNMNO1.html
  • Ray@TastyDollars
    • May 2002
    • 6797

    #2

    Comment

    • Babaganoosh
      ♥♥♥ Likes Hugs ♥♥♥
      • Nov 2001
      • 15841

      #3
      I'll bet there are more threads started about this than were started about britney being engaged and pregnant. We already have a good start.

      At least it's relevant.
      I like pie.

      Comment

      • digifan
        The Profiler
        • Oct 2002
        • 14618

        #4
        Just wanted to post the Yahoo link...

        Supreme Court Bars Internet Porn Law Enforcement


        WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A divided U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday barred enforcement of a 1998 federal law designed to keep Internet pornography away from minors because it likely violates constitutional free-speech rights.



        By a 5-4 vote, the high court handed a defeat to the U.S. Justice Department iin a case that has pitted free-speech rights against efforts by Congress to protect minors from online pornography.

        http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...pornography_dc
        Last edited by digifan; 06-29-2004, 06:39 AM.
        [email protected]
        Webair Rocks

        Comment

        • jimmyf
          OU812
          • Feb 2001
          • 12651

          #5
          Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
          I'll bet there are more threads started about this than were started about britney being engaged and pregnant. We already have a good start.

          At least it's relevant.

          don't know about britney nude though
          Epic CashEpic Cash works for me
          Solar Cash Paysite Plugin
          Gallery of the day freesites,POTD,Gallery generator with free hosting

          Comment

          • scoreman
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2001
            • 1491

            #6
            We are doing the wave over here....everyone join in!

            Comment

            • digifan
              The Profiler
              • Oct 2002
              • 14618

              #7
              Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
              I'll bet there are more threads started about this than were started about britney being engaged and pregnant. We already have a good start.

              At least it's relevant.
              [email protected]
              Webair Rocks

              Comment

              • Bansheelinks
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2003
                • 6023

                #8
                Well I'm glad for the ruling............but.......

                this is depressing that it even was 5-4

                ALSO NOTE:

                the personal hero of many of yours, Clinton, signed this legislation!

                Comment

                • Manowar
                  jellyfish  
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 71528

                  #9
                  Time to party

                  Comment

                  • zentz
                    Confirmed User
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 8062

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Manowar
                    Time to party
                    why ?
                    Programs that owe me money ---- Epassporte.com ~ $2700 | Protraffic.com ~ $2600 | XonDemand.com ~ $3000

                    Email: [email protected]

                    Comment

                    • jimmyf
                      OU812
                      • Feb 2001
                      • 12651

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bansheelinks
                      Well I'm glad for the ruling............but.......

                      this is depressing that it even was 5-4

                      ALSO NOTE:

                      the personal hero of many of yours, Clinton, signed this legislation!
                      yes, but they blame Bush.

                      remember all the stuff he promise the gay's, didn't give' em shit.


                      yes it is depressing that it even was 5-to-4
                      Epic CashEpic Cash works for me
                      Solar Cash Paysite Plugin
                      Gallery of the day freesites,POTD,Gallery generator with free hosting

                      Comment

                      • Reak
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 17920

                        #12

                        Comment

                        • scoreman
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 1491

                          #13
                          I wouldnt party just yet...a 5-4 decision is very close and you can be sure that the DOJ attorneys are already at work redrafting a new version of COPA. The actual ruling of the Court as well as the dissent will be posted on this site later:
                          http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinio...ipopinion.html

                          I definitely plan on reading this as the dissent will probably give a roadmap to the DOJ as to how to refile COPA later.

                          This is far from over. Don't break out the party hats because we just won this battle and not the war.

                          Comment

                          • Bansheelinks
                            Confirmed User
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 6023

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jimmyf
                            yes, but they blame Bush.

                            remember all the stuff he promise the gay's, didn't give' em shit.


                            yes it is depressing that it even was 5-to-4
                            all they need is one more conservative Supreme Court Justice and we all will be up shit creek with no paddle.......the future may be scary

                            Comment

                            • scoreman
                              Confirmed User
                              • Nov 2001
                              • 1491

                              #15
                              Here is the actual opinion:
                              http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...pdf/03-218.pdf

                              Comment

                              • iwantchixx
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 12860

                                #16
                                it doesnt end here. 5-4 is not good.

                                Comment

                                • TheSwed
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Feb 2004
                                  • 3483

                                  #17
                                  Great

                                  Cheap Viagra and Cialis Erectionpills

                                  Comment

                                  • Tuna
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2002
                                    • 1307

                                    #18
                                    great news even if only by one vote


                                    $30 PER SIGNUP PLUS 25% RECURRING
                                    FREE HOSTED PIC AND MOVIE GALLERIES

                                    Submit Your Free Sites, Pic and Movie Galleries Here
                                    ICQ : 20034024

                                    Comment

                                    • sherie
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2002
                                      • 7020

                                      #19
                                      5-4 is scary. Just think, some of these people will be retired the next time around and then what? Some rightwinged anti porn person gets the seat and the chance to vote. Eeek!
                                      AIM sherierocks
                                      ICQ 127-296-286
                                      Skype traffichor

                                      Comment

                                      • Tom_PMs
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jun 2004
                                        • 2049

                                        #20
                                        Well if Bush steals the next election then you can bet an anti-porn right wing judge WILL be appointed, lol.

                                        Clinton signed the first version which was struck straight down. The congress passed COPA. Anyway, you should thank him for leaving the massive loophole maybe? wink wink wink wink wink

                                        You've read it, you can't unread it.

                                        Comment

                                        • Pankie
                                          Registered User
                                          • Jun 2004
                                          • 1

                                          #21
                                          Did you see the headline on this page? from AP:
                                          http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20040629_616.html

                                          People who don't read through the article aren't going to think COPA was rejected.

                                          Isn't there some way to get these psychotic puritans to go after violence instead of porn?

                                          I'd much rather have my kiddies looking at naked bodies instead of beheadings or beatings. Much easier to explain, to discuss, to understand. Of course my youngest kiddie is 20...and none of my kids will explain the horse thing to me.....

                                          Comment

                                          • scoreman
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Nov 2001
                                            • 1491

                                            #22
                                            The ruling of the Court was that the injunction against enforcement of the law was upheld and the case was sent back down for trial. The injuction remains in place while and if the case goes to trial.

                                            A three min summary of the ruling for time challenged GFYers:

                                            Majority:
                                            a) The feds fail to show how COPA is more effective than other available alternatives such as filtering. When the feds enact a law designed to restrict content, they are required to show they are taking the least restrictive alternative to accomplish the goals of Congress. Here they did not meet that showing.
                                            b)By letting the injunction stand and requiring the case be sent back down for trial, the Court reasoned that the potential for harm in chilling legitimate free speech outweighed the potential benefits of allowing the law to be enforced while the case is decided at trial.
                                            c) The fact finding made by the original District Court as to the effectiveness of filtering and blocking software alternatives was done over 5 years ago and a new trial court would be required to revise the current findings of technogical alternatives besides COPA.

                                            Dissent led by Justice Breyer:
                                            a) The COPA is narrow in its scope to target unprotected speech (pornography is not protected free speech). By limiting the scope to only content that is designed to get people horny, lacks serious artistic and literary value, is commercial in nature, and taken as a whole, the COPA would not chill legitimate free speech. [I don't agree with Breyer here as the examples he lists are not close calls. What would be chilled would be much closer examples than he lists like erotic poetry on Live Journal, or movies like Baise Moi streamed out online etc. If its a close call folks wont risk prison and legitimate speech (not ours) will be chilled.]
                                            b)The screening required by COPA is feasible and age verification services are widely available and used by the adult industry already. [apparently Breyer is not quite up to speed with the state of AVS today]
                                            c) The less restrictive means recommended by the majority is the equivalent of saying we will do nothing since filtering was already available but was so ineffective that Congress was forced to do something because porn was out of control. [gotta agree with Breyer here, everytime i get Beasty and Fisting emails it makes me glad my two sons arent online yet]. Breyer lists reasons why he thinks filtering sucks and why its not a reasonable alternative.
                                            d) Breyer rejects the notion that because porn could move offshore this Act is ineffective and should be canned. In his opinion is better to do something that has limited inpact than nothing and let the problem continue 100% unchecked.
                                            e) The majority should have provided guidance as to how the law could be written to pass constitutional muster, instead the only options now available to the DOJ is to do nothing or prosecute fully and potentially chill speech along the way.

                                            Comment

                                            • modF
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 1888

                                              #23
                                              And the fist group to denounce the victory...

                                              http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRe...d=123-06292004

                                              Ya know, I don't think I would ever put my phone number in the article.......

                                              I do things
                                              skype:themodF

                                              Comment

                                              • tony299
                                                lurker
                                                • Aug 2002
                                                • 57021

                                                #24
                                                This should be a awake up call for acts to be cleaned up.

                                                Comment

                                                Working...