Why is this thread bound up on total political bullshit that have no relevance to the Supreme Court decision and all we hear about from some "obvious" US people is total crap in support of whatever political party??
The problem is more fundmental in that, once again, we have laws possibly being passed that infringe on the rights of US citizens.
It is clear some don't actually know the word "freedom" since they show nada concern for it.
I'll repeat this again - No country in the western world has any such laws. Is the US gonna be the first to tolerate this shit like they tolerated the candidacy of an idiot as President? (Sorry if that "political bit" crept in - tho it ain't mean't to be political cos Bush has surpassed that way long ago.)
Politics don't matter - all bullshit Tho it is election time
Originally posted by The Truth Hurts Clinton signed CDA into law in Feb 1996.
This thread is about COPA (CDA the sequel), which was signed into law in October 1998... care to guess by who?
Got any other facts you need corrected?
It was the Bush administrations decision to take it to the Supreme Court after it had been struck down by 2 appellate courts. They could have just as easily chosen NOT to contest it .
But when the nation's top law enforcement officer - the Attorney General, is offended by the topless statue of "Miss Justice" and puts a curtain in front of her, no one should be surprised that they decided to pursue this aggressively. He is a religious fanatic ,
who wants to impose his morals on everyone.
So anyone who says that this is not Bush's doing is either politically naive, or just plain stupid. What the fuck do you think Conservatism is all about ? It's all about telling other people how they should live- How they should think, what they should do, what they can see. It certainly isn't about Freedom. It's all about control.
My guess is that they will uphold it.
The Court has become much more of a Political Institution with Right Wing judges like Scalia and Thomas on it. They gave Bush a bad defeat on the G-Bay prisoners rights today. They are likely to give him a victory on this one to soften the blow.
Interesting that they delayed announcing the decision by 1 day, though.
The Chief Justice is probably trying to dump some of his domain names on GFY.
for all of you that say that this would be good for our indistry..
The online file sharing biz will explode and thats the only sector that wont suffer..as far as webmasters based in the US anyway
What the fuck do you think Conservatism is all about ? It's all about telling other people how they should live- How they should think, what they should do, what they can see. It certainly isn't about Freedom. It's all about control.
I know fuck all about US politics, but that sums up much and explains a lot. I could see "control" oozing outta some places and kept wondering WTF has that to do with "our values" and "freedoms" - "control" and "freedom" don't go together too well
I like "freedom" to be nice and simple with no baggage tacked on! :-)
Originally posted by nicchick
Interesting that they delayed announcing the decision by 1 day, though.
The Chief Justice is probably trying to dump some of his domain names on GFY.
Originally posted by baddog Dude, I would not sweat it, the Chicken Little's of the world only see what they want to see. It isn't going to pass the Constitutionality test, like I said, I wish it would (for purely selfish reasons), but it won't
How goddamn naive can you be ???
Of course it isn't going to pass the " Constitutionality test ".
Do you think that will make 1 bit of difference ???
Some members of the court - Sudor, Ginzberg, O'Connor - actually vote based on the legal merits of the case. But the Right Wingers Rheinquist, Scalia, Thomas, almost always vote based on the politics of the case.
It was the Bush Administration who brought this to the Supreme Court. They want this law upheld and their lackeys will give it to them.
" It isn't going to pass the Constitutionality test ". HAHAHAHAHA !
What do you think this is, 1985 ???
Originally posted by Rambozo How goddamn naive can you be ???
Of course it isn't going to pass the " Constitutionality test ".
Do you think that will make 1 bit of difference ???
Some members of the court - Sudor, Ginzberg, O'Connor - actually vote based on the legal merits of the case. But the Right Wingers Rheinquist, Scalia, Thomas, almost always vote based on the politics of the case.
It was the Bush Administration who brought this to the Supreme Court. They want this law upheld and their lackeys will give it to them.
" It isn't going to pass the Constitutionality test ". HAHAHAHAHA !
What do you think this is, 1985 ???
Sad but probably true-
I'm sure we will see a lot of "Conservative" ex US adult webmasters greeting people at Walmart real soon.
Originally posted by nicchick Sad but probably true-
I'm sure we will see a lot of "Conservative" ex US adult webmasters greeting people at Walmart real soon.
Anyone who thinks they can be an adult webmaster and a "Conservative" is a complete moron.
Who do you think went nuts over Janet Jackson flashing a boob
on television ? Liberals ???
Conservatives are 4 times more likely to go to church every week than Liberals.
Conservatives think its GREAT that George Bush makes decisions
based on his religious beliefs.
Who do you think gave us the Patriot Act ??? CONSERVATIVES !
Who do you think pushed this matter to the Supreme Court ?
CONSERVATIVES !
Our rights to privacy and free speech will always take a back seat
to "Moral Values" (as they define them) as long as the conservatives are in power.
Wake the fuck up.
Originally posted by Mr.Fiction Who wrote the Patriot Act?
Not Bush, but probably someone from the executive branch?
then you would be wrong . . . it was co-written by Sen. Bob Graham (a Democrat by the way) and I don't remember who else - but it was done in the Senate - it passed 98-1
Originally posted by baddog then you would be wrong . . . it was co-written by Sen. Bob Graham (a Democrat by the way) and I don't remember who else - but it was done in the Senate - it passed 98-1
Are you on drugs? Graham didn't write the Patriot Act. It came from the Justice Department:
Viet Dinh has been called a "political pit bull" and "a foot soldier" for Attorney General John Ashhahahahaha. But the 36-year-old author of the Patriot Act prefers to be called an "attendant of freedom."
Graham quiet about his role on Patriot Act
On the campaign trail, he isn't bringing up that he co-wrote the controversial bill in the Senate.
By BILL ADAIR, Times Staff Writer
? St. Petersburg Times
published June 14, 2003
WASHINGTON - When Sen. Bob Graham campaigned in Iowa last weekend, at least two Democratic activists complained that the USA Patriot Act threatened civil liberties. They asked what he planned to do about it.
The Florida senator replied that he was unhappy with Attorney General John Ashhahahahaha's implementation of the antiterrorism law, but Graham neglected to mention an important fact: He co-wrote it.
The controversial law puts Graham in a difficult spot.
As the former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, he wrote sections of the bill dealing with foreign intelligence.
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