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  • Kick Ass Chat
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2002
    • 2057
    #101
    Originally posted by wyldblyss
    Do you know what bugs me? Once again the gov't is putting the responsiblity of the webmaster/sponsors etc. to keep children out of adult orientated websites.

    One question: When is someone going to have the balls to stand up and tell all those whining parents who complain that their kids are viewing porn on the Internet to MONITOR their childrens activities.

    Parents use the Internet as a babysitter. They buy little Frankie a computer, put it in his room and are pleased as punch when little Frankie only emerges from his room to go to the bathroom and grab something to eat. They don't monitor what websites he goes to and if by chance they find out that Frankie stole their credit card and used it to join a porn site...they flip out! They blame the porn industry for not keeping their child out. Well, it is THEIR fault. If they were to take the damn computer OUT of the bedroom at put it in the family room and walk over to the computer once in a while and actually CHECK what they are up to then there wouldn't be the problem.

    Very nicely said
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      • pornstar2pac
        Omaha Hi/Lo
        • Nov 2003
        • 17380
        #102
        Lensman, scratch that 100k loan i was going to get from you to start that new hosting company idea I had.
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          • Biggy2
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2002
            • 1821
            #103
            The americans thinking your business will triple, are foolish and ignorant. The only people who this will benefit is foreigners, I don't care what aspect of the biz you are in. You do adult, you do porn, you live in the USA...you do not want this to go thru, unless you've been COPA compliant for the last 6 years... in that case, you probably aren't in the porno business.

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              • Mr Pheer
                So Fucking Banned
                • Dec 2002
                • 22082
                #104
                Originally posted by maxjohan
                just because you have a ton of bookmarks
                I seriously doubt i have a single bookmark. i dont give porn away so i dont see why anyone would bookmark search engine spam, unless they think the page they see is really what the spiders see and they are trying to figure it out

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                  • Mr Pheer
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 22082
                    #105
                    Originally posted by Trax
                    have you ever been on one of pheer's websites?


                    and yes I kinda agree with him
                    This would be awesome to me
                    yeah i feel sorry for some lonely fucker bookmarking my stuff

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                      • KRL
                        Entrepreneur
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 31429
                        #106
                        I will be amazed beyond belief if they pass it. Even conservative courts know how messy things get if you try to restrict 1st amendment issues.
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                          • Mr.Fiction
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2002
                            • 9484
                            #107
                            Originally posted by Kingfish
                            I am surprised about how few webmasters understand this law. First off if the law is upheld it wouldn?t simply require censored tours. In order for the court to create a law that tours are censored they would have to rewrite the entire statute, which isn?t going to happen. The law as it is written requires much more than censored tours.

                            In order to be legal your paysite tour would have to be censored to such a degree that it would be incapable of titillating a 12 -13 year old boy. The standard is based upon the prurient interests of a minor not an adult (unlike the obscenity standard which is based on an adult). In other words if the material taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value for minors (not adults) it is out of bounds. When I was 12-13 years old National Geographic and the ladies underwear section of the Sears catalog met that definition. Furthermore pay particular attention to

                            Note the inclusion of the term writing. How would you describe what is inside your members area with out running afoul of the law? Furthermore, the law goes far beyond just porn sites many mainstream sites would be impacted. For example if you run a chat or a BBS and allow people to post things you could be liable if even 1% or less of your content dealt with a sexual topic. For example a movie review site could be liable for discussing what type of sex scenes are in an R rated or even PG-13 rated movie. Simply showing a clip on your website from a PG-13 movie that shows a bare female breast would put you on the wrong side of the law.
                            The fact that they have included text in the law is part of the extremely overbroadness of it. That means that newspapers, magazines, health sites, forums, and any number of other mainstream sites that have nothing to do with porn would be illegal.

                            It's obviously unconsitutional as written. Hopefully the Supreme Court will agree with other courts who have ruled just that.
                            Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU | Free Speech Coalition | EFF | IMPA

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                              • Webby
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 14956
                                #108
                                COPA is... na bugger this - I can't be bothered :-)

                                This is just another piece of shit that the US is famous for - "control". There is fundamentally nothing wrong and plenty right about protecting children. The next stage is implant em all with an ID chip at birth and bung them a cellphone with a location tracker in it - all for their own good of course, - in case they get kidnapped or lost. Back to that word "control".

                                I always had this feeling in the back of my mind of kinda feeling sorry for folks in the US - I'd hate to be born into the United Soviet States.

                                Cummon folks - kick some ass and get your country and freedoms back!!
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                                  • cosis
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Aug 2001
                                    • 5292
                                    #109
                                    how the hell would they even start to regulate something like this?? there is just as much porn coming from people outside the US..... if these people can't be prosecuted this will accomplish nothing...........

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                                      • polish_aristocrat
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jul 2002
                                        • 40377
                                        #110
                                        What happens if the Supreme Court decision is in favor of our industry?
                                        Will it have any positive impact or simpy everything will stay as it is?
                                        I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                          • Mr.Fiction
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Feb 2002
                                            • 9484
                                            #111
                                            Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                            What happens if the Supreme Court decision is in favor of our industry?
                                            Will it have any positive impact or simpy everything will stay as it is?
                                            Congress will probably pass another law immediately and the ACLU willhave to start all over again fighting it.
                                            Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU | Free Speech Coalition | EFF | IMPA

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                                              • bopha
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Sep 2002
                                                • 1882
                                                #112
                                                This issue might be ok this time around as it was the previous times... but...

                                                In the next 5 years 3 Supeme Court Justices could retire.

                                                The outcome of this election will determine in who the replacements are and the future of our rights.


                                                I know this doesn't directly effect what is being said in this thread, but this article is just the first step in what this administration says is 'obscene'.

                                                http://www.alternet.org/envirohealth/19045/

                                                If teaching people how to protect themselves from HIV is considered obscene, our industry is in trouble.

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                                                  • Kingfish
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 668
                                                    #113
                                                    Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                    What happens if the Supreme Court decision is in favor of our industry?
                                                    Will it have any positive impact or simpy everything will stay as it is?
                                                    IMO if it goes our way there won?t be new legislation like COPA of the CDA. Essentially what the court is going to have to say if it rules in our favor is that in dealing with this problem (keeping adult material from children) regulation isn?t the solution because there is no way to single out porn sites for age verification without including a whole bunch of other sites that deal with a wide range of topics. I would suspect the government would put more effort into the obscenity Prosecutions.

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                                                      • UnclePecker
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                        • 266
                                                        #114
                                                        The USA Gov. is so retarded they fail to realize that nothing they do will effect porn on the net. Even if the USA outlawed all porn, and put every smut peddler in prison, the net would still be full of porn from other countries. All they would accomplish is putting US smut peddlers out of work, loss of tax revenue from porn sales, and increased cost of housing prisoners...Insane

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                                                          • tony299
                                                            lurker
                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                            • 57021
                                                            #115
                                                            A friend of mine who has been in the porn business for 10 yrs said that he thinks unless you got stuff over the edge or going after children donaldduch.com that COPA will just become a add on when they go after someone for obscenity.

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                                                              • BVF
                                                                Black Vagina Finder
                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                • 13975
                                                                #116
                                                                nothing is going to happen. It will be struck down.

                                                                Look at all of the work that Bush did to ban partial birth abortion just to have it overturned by the courts.

                                                                If a thread on GFY wasn't started about it. The law would have been heard and once again struck down and all I would have known about it was a brief mention on CNN...Now this thread has all of you panicking for no reason.

                                                                Smoke a bowl and take a shot and THEN read this thread.

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                                                                  • C_U_Next_Tuesday
                                                                    WW4L
                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                    • 10581
                                                                    #117
                                                                    Originally posted by UnclePecker
                                                                    The USA Gov. is so retarded they fail to realize that nothing they do will effect porn on the net. Even if the USA outlawed all porn, and put every smut peddler in prison, the net would still be full of porn from other countries..Insane
                                                                    which would mean they would have to regulate it to the point of not allowing any US citizens access to free porn online.
                                                                    would make no sense to me if they regulated the webmasters and shut them down only to allow the us citizens to access free porn from some other country..defeats the purpose.

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                                                                      • cosis
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                                        • 5292
                                                                        #118
                                                                        Originally posted by UnclePecker
                                                                        The USA Gov. is so retarded they fail to realize that nothing they do will effect porn on the net. Even if the USA outlawed all porn, and put every smut peddler in prison, the net would still be full of porn from other countries. All they would accomplish is putting US smut peddlers out of work, loss of tax revenue from porn sales, and increased cost of housing prisoners...Insane
                                                                        my point exactly

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                                                                          • pornguy
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                            • 62910
                                                                            #119
                                                                            Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                                                            but I would doubt that.. only if you are a threat to the "lives" of americans... ex. a terrorist threat... Otherwise.. that would be complete science fiction and Canada for exemple would never allow that...
                                                                            Not quite. Lars is correct!!!

                                                                            They are using the patriot act to round up anyone in the US that is a green card holding immigrant, that has ever had so much as a parking ticket. They hold them in jail, and either deport them, or release them after about 90 days. Some, like cubans that they can not deport, are being held way over. For instance. A lady that used to live near me did 1 year probation for shoplifting 10 years ago. in august 2003 they picked her up ate 6 am at home and held her for 7 months. They say that it is a moral terpitude crime.

                                                                            It is just bullshit.

                                                                            Also what about the Family from Peru?? husband and wife living here for 12 or 13 years, working, own a house. Crime? over stayed work visa. they also have 2 US born children. INS arrested the mom and dad, and put kids into HRS. Then deported the whole family..

                                                                            And sorry to say, but those kids are american citizens. They violated their rights.

                                                                            What makes you think that they will not mess with scum like pornographers???

                                                                            Remember to them we are scum!


                                                                            just my


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                                                                              • Yngwie
                                                                                I am an Alien from space
                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                • 11118
                                                                                #120
                                                                                Originally posted by wyldblyss
                                                                                Do you know what bugs me? Once again the gov't is putting the responsiblity of the webmaster/sponsors etc. to keep children out of adult orientated websites.

                                                                                One question: When is someone going to have the balls to stand up and tell all those whining parents who complain that their kids are viewing porn on the Internet to MONITOR their childrens activities.

                                                                                Parents use the Internet as a babysitter. They buy little Frankie a computer, put it in his room and are pleased as punch when little Frankie only emerges from his room to go to the bathroom and grab something to eat. They don't monitor what websites he goes to and if by chance they find out that Frankie stole their credit card and used it to join a porn site...they flip out! They blame the porn industry for not keeping their child out. Well, it is THEIR fault. If they were to take the damn computer OUT of the bedroom at put it in the family room and walk over to the computer once in a while and actually CHECK what they are up to then there wouldn't be the problem.

                                                                                I met a woman in my town and had a convo with her about porn and told her that I work in the porn industry online. She got all nuts and started blaming me because her 12 year old saw porn on the net. I flipped on her and said "did I buy your kid the computer? No? Then not my problem. Do you monitor your kid while he surfs the net? no? not my problem. Before blaming me look in the fucking mirror" then I left. I guess if their kid walks in on them fucking it's our fault too.
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                                                                                  • CHMOD
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                    • 1697
                                                                                    #121
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                                                                                      • Webby
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                        • 14956
                                                                                        #122
                                                                                        C_U_Next_Tuesday:

                                                                                        regulate it to the point of not allowing any US citizens access to free porn online.
                                                                                        There is no saying what they will do. A few years back, I was totally naive about the US until I lived there. After having lived in a few countries, it hit me in the face how "restricted" it actually was yet at the same time proclaimed "freedoms". There is a law for everthing from breathing to thinking and as a result more incarcerations than any other county.

                                                                                        Some facts already show how restrictive it is - US citizens have no "rights" to move to other countries and not account for themselves at home. They may not, eg. visit countries on a US blacklist (without clearance). If they want to give up citizenship, this may not be granted - they hate dual nationality and infer that it is "illegal"!

                                                                                        Gaming sites are "illegal" in the US and why not porn? One reason may be that money is involved in gaming and they are not getting their cut of internet gaming. This has resulted in propaganda about crimes of money laundering and a load of other shit re gaming. Some is true - most not - you can create the same story about any biz, including porn, and create an "anti".

                                                                                        There is also this motherly tendency for the govt to let it's citizens know "what is best for them" and in their own interests - all bullshit.

                                                                                        The Supreme Court will make a judgement, whether this is favorable to the adult biz or not. I saw this comming years ago, tho had no idea of the angle it would come from, - and moved everything offshore into a more friendly environment for the adult biz.
                                                                                        XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                                                                                          • tony299
                                                                                            lurker
                                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                                            • 57021
                                                                                            #123
                                                                                            Originally posted by Yngwie
                                                                                            I met a woman in my town and had a convo with her about porn and told her that I work in the porn industry online. She got all nuts and started blaming me because her 12 year old saw porn on the net. I flipped on her and said "did I buy your kid the computer? No? Then not my problem. Do you monitor your kid while he surfs the net? no? not my problem. Before blaming me look in the fucking mirror" then I left. I guess if their kid walks in on them fucking it's our fault too.
                                                                                            That argument works when companies arent loading up email boxes regardless of age with porn pics ads. Using mainstream domains like whitehouse.com Also over the top tours didnt help this, everyone with this didnt care about tomorrow fuck them I will do what I want attitude and now they are scared . Thats funny .

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                                                                                              • The Other Steve
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                                                • 2106
                                                                                                #124
                                                                                                Originally posted by UnclePecker
                                                                                                The USA Gov. is so retarded they fail to realize that nothing they do will effect porn on the net. Even if the USA outlawed all porn, and put every smut peddler in prison, the net would still be full of porn from other countries. All they would accomplish is putting US smut peddlers out of work, loss of tax revenue from porn sales, and increased cost of housing prisoners...Insane
                                                                                                Of course it's insane but you should not be surprised that laws like this are being passed.

                                                                                                The fact is that the people who proposed this law are religious extremists and they are no different to the religious extremists in any other country in the world.

                                                                                                They don't care if they infringe on your civil liberties - they don't care if they trample on the consititution - they don't care if their laws restrict your access to life-saving medical information.

                                                                                                All they care about is forcing everyone into their narrow little view of what is right and healthy.

                                                                                                In that the right wing religious fruitcakes who proposed this in Washington are no different to the right wing religious fruitcakes in Iraq, Iran, Israel and every other part of the world were extremism is rampant.

                                                                                                So what is the difference between the US and Al queada?
                                                                                                Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

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                                                                                                  • kane
                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                                                                    • 20684
                                                                                                    #125
                                                                                                    I'm pretty sure it will be struck down. There are two major flaws in it. First it is so broadly written that sites like Amazon and breast cancer sites will be effected so it's too much of a blanket. Second it doesn't call out any real legitamate forme of online age verification.
                                                                                                    Previous courts threw it out because they say a credit card isn't really age verification ( when I was in disney world a couple years ago I saw a 12 year old girl with a visa debit card ) and that forcing the use of a credit card as age verification is wrong and restricts access to adults. I can take my drivers license and some cashe and go buy porn in any porn shop in the country and I never have to have or use a credit card.

                                                                                                    So I think this will be struck down because it is just too flawed. However, regardless of who wins the election ( and lets be real for a second Kerry is much better for us than Bush if only becaus Ashhat will not be in the picture) there will be a nother law like this one written and as soon as congress gets balls enough to list, in detail, what type of stuff should be restricted you can expect it to get voted in and very possibly be upheld in court.

                                                                                                    Also, moving your server offshore will not protect you unless you move with it and plan on not coming back to the states. How many webmasters really will pack up all their stuff and move to a different country? I had read that only about 50% of the adults sites on the web are US owned. . . so only about half the free porn will go away. Sites like The Hun will get bigger and those who are little guys that do 3-6 signups a day will most likely disappear. Many affiliate programs may not disappear, but will take a huge hit.

                                                                                                    just my 2 cents

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                                                                                                      • Biggy2
                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                                                        • 1821
                                                                                                        #126
                                                                                                        Originally posted by kane
                                                                                                        I'm pretty sure it will be struck down. There are two major flaws in it. First it is so broadly written that sites like Amazon and breast cancer sites will be effected so it's too much of a blanket. Second it doesn't call out any real legitamate forme of online age verification.
                                                                                                        Previous courts threw it out because they say a credit card isn't really age verification ( when I was in disney world a couple years ago I saw a 12 year old girl with a visa debit card ) and that forcing the use of a credit card as age verification is wrong and restricts access to adults. I can take my drivers license and some cashe and go buy porn in any porn shop in the country and I never have to have or use a credit card.

                                                                                                        So I think this will be struck down because it is just too flawed. However, regardless of who wins the election ( and lets be real for a second Kerry is much better for us than Bush if only becaus Ashhat will not be in the picture) there will be a nother law like this one written and as soon as congress gets balls enough to list, in detail, what type of stuff should be restricted you can expect it to get voted in and very possibly be upheld in court.

                                                                                                        Also, moving your server offshore will not protect you unless you move with it and plan on not coming back to the states. How many webmasters really will pack up all their stuff and move to a different country? I had read that only about 50% of the adults sites on the web are US owned. . . so only about half the free porn will go away. Sites like The Hun will get bigger and those who are little guys that do 3-6 signups a day will most likely disappear. Many affiliate programs may not disappear, but will take a huge hit.

                                                                                                        just my 2 cents
                                                                                                        i couldn't have said it any better myself.
                                                                                                        For the US webmasters who are hoping this gets approved because "free porn" will disappear, this will only benefit people not in the US.

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                                                                                                          • tony299
                                                                                                            lurker
                                                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                                                            • 57021
                                                                                                            #127
                                                                                                            Originally posted by kane
                                                                                                            I'm pretty sure it will be struck down. There are two major flaws in it. First it is so broadly written that sites like Amazon and breast cancer sites will be effected so it's too much of a blanket. Second it doesn't call out any real legitamate forme of online age verification.
                                                                                                            Previous courts threw it out because they say a credit card isn't really age verification ( when I was in disney world a couple years ago I saw a 12 year old girl with a visa debit card ) and that forcing the use of a credit card as age verification is wrong and restricts access to adults. I can take my drivers license and some cashe and go buy porn in any porn shop in the country and I never have to have or use a credit card.

                                                                                                            So I think this will be struck down because it is just too flawed. However, regardless of who wins the election ( and lets be real for a second Kerry is much better for us than Bush if only becaus Ashhat will not be in the picture) there will be a nother law like this one written and as soon as congress gets balls enough to list, in detail, what type of stuff should be restricted you can expect it to get voted in and very possibly be upheld in court.

                                                                                                            Also, moving your server offshore will not protect you unless you move with it and plan on not coming back to the states. How many webmasters really will pack up all their stuff and move to a different country? I had read that only about 50% of the adults sites on the web are US owned. . . so only about half the free porn will go away. Sites like The Hun will get bigger and those who are little guys that do 3-6 signups a day will most likely disappear. Many affiliate programs may not disappear, but will take a huge hit.

                                                                                                            just my 2 cents


                                                                                                            I dont think alot of people wouldnt be touched , how are they going to go after every one and then they have to win. Also you are assuming everyone is following this . There are tons of little USA webmaster's that know nothing about acacia or copa. They do their little site , dont network or go to shows or the boards. So there wont be this massive shut down. The big sponsors will have to clean house because they will be a target.

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                                                                                                              • Rochard
                                                                                                                Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                                                                • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                • 75761
                                                                                                                #128
                                                                                                                What about newsgroups?
                                                                                                                Herschel Savage
                                                                                                                Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                                                  • kane
                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                    • 20684
                                                                                                                    #129
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                    I dont think alot of people wouldnt be touched , how are they going to go after every one and then they have to win. Also you are assuming everyone is following this . There are tons of little USA webmaster's that know nothing about acacia or copa. They do their little site , dont network or go to shows or the boards. So there wont be this massive shut down. The big sponsors will have to clean house because they will be a target.
                                                                                                                    I've wondered that myself. I wonder how many webmasters are out there that don't read boards or anything and have no idea what is going on. It will be a rude awakening for them when they get the knock on the door.

                                                                                                                    As for affiliates I think it will be really tough on them especially at first. I would be interesting in finding out from a big affiliate how many US webmasters they have and what % of their traffic/sales come from those US webmasters. If you have 200 webmasters that only send you 5 sales a months and they just stop that's 1000 sales. if you have a 50% rebill rate on those 1000 @ $35 a month that's over 17K lost just from the smalll guys.

                                                                                                                    anyway, I don't want to sound like the sky is falling or anything, like I say I really doubt this will be allowed to stand but something like this is most likely in our future.

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                                                                                                                      • Xenophage
                                                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                        • 12122
                                                                                                                        #130
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by latinasojourn
                                                                                                                        all true.

                                                                                                                        the only really sensible way to protect kids and anyone else who does not want to see erotica is browser filtering. (ICRA, etc)

                                                                                                                        it is simple, international, and effective.

                                                                                                                        unfortunately most lawmakers are not saavy enough about the internet to understand this simple and effective solution.
                                                                                                                        YES ICRA LABEL

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                                                                                                                          • Xenophage
                                                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                                                            • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                            • 12122
                                                                                                                            #131
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Mystery Man
                                                                                                                            this wont change a damn thing
                                                                                                                            besides the top 10 tgps are all owned by dutch guys.
                                                                                                                            why is that ?

                                                                                                                            do the dutch know something we dont ?


                                                                                                                            I love those guys by the way, they are sexy

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                                                                                                                              • Xenophage
                                                                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                                                                • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                • 12122
                                                                                                                                #132
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Bell
                                                                                                                                hey LL... thanks for sharing the information
                                                                                                                                and starting this thread....

                                                                                                                                I was directed here from another board
                                                                                                                                that said you had an interesting topic over here...

                                                                                                                                so thanks...

                                                                                                                                ~Bell
                                                                                                                                Thanks


                                                                                                                                I try to keep up on the news that affects me. and this would suck ass I dont think it will pass though but then again i did not think bushy won the election and hes been there for 4 years and will most likely be there for another 4

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                                                                                                                                  • Cman
                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                    • 697
                                                                                                                                    #133
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                                                                                                                    Canadian webmasters would now have the upper hand..
                                                                                                                                    *tents fingers* excellent ....

                                                                                                                                    now lets go smoke some pot and attend a gay marriage!!!!
                                                                                                                                    I could put stuff here, but you don't care.

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                                                                                                                                      • Xenophage
                                                                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                        • 12122
                                                                                                                                        #134
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by pornguy
                                                                                                                                        Not quite. Lars is correct!!!

                                                                                                                                        They are using the patriot act to round up anyone in the US that is a green card holding immigrant, that has ever had so much as a parking ticket. They hold them in jail, and either deport them, or release them after about 90 days. Some, like cubans that they can not deport, are being held way over. For instance. A lady that used to live near me did 1 year probation for shoplifting 10 years ago. in august 2003 they picked her up ate 6 am at home and held her for 7 months. They say that it is a moral terpitude crime.

                                                                                                                                        It is just bullshit.

                                                                                                                                        Also what about the Family from Peru?? husband and wife living here for 12 or 13 years, working, own a house. Crime? over stayed work visa. they also have 2 US born children. INS arrested the mom and dad, and put kids into HRS. Then deported the whole family..

                                                                                                                                        And sorry to say, but those kids are american citizens. They violated their rights.

                                                                                                                                        What makes you think that they will not mess with scum like pornographers???

                                                                                                                                        Remember to them we are scum!


                                                                                                                                        just my


                                                                                                                                        Lars, thanks for the info.


                                                                                                                                        Man the government today reminds me of the mcarthy era red scare shit where you were a commie and they fucked all kinds of peoples lives up and use it as an excuse to relly fuck with people..


                                                                                                                                        cohen was a scary monther fucker and he is in my mind like ash cr of t is today

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                                                                                                                                          • maxjohan
                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                            • 7219
                                                                                                                                            #135
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by chodadog
                                                                                                                                            I've said this before, and i'll say it again. Warning pages don't mean shit; legally or morally. They're a waste of html. The only good a warning page ever does is having one more banner filled page between the surfer and the goodies.

                                                                                                                                            Think about it. Who is coming to your porn site and how did they get there? Came through a TGP? Already looking at porn. Do you think a warning page is going to stop them?

                                                                                                                                            Found your site via a search engine.. well.. wouldn't they have to be looking at porn to find your site? Unless you've been targetting non-adult words in which case you deserve a kick in the face anyways.

                                                                                                                                            Type-in? Well unlesss you own crayons.com and are redirecting it to some fucked up porn site, then i'm guessing the surfer already knows what's at your site, or has a pretty good idea of what to expect when he types chicksputtingmassiveobjectsintheirpussies.com into his browser.

                                                                                                                                            People under the age of 18 use all of these methods to find your websites, and a warning page is nothing more than an extra click.
                                                                                                                                            I agree that its easy to click the ENTER button but you cant just say... they came there because they wanted. I think that its really a good stop sign and show.. morality. Wish this industry have less and less of. Take this case for example, I bookmark XXX and on the same computer my son has a bookmark of some pokémon site. If he get curious and click my XXX site, atleast he has a choice to leave... and that is probably what he will do if he hasnt made puberty yet.

                                                                                                                                            But then of course, you need a GOOD warning page.

                                                                                                                                            Last edited by maxjohan; 06-27-2004, 06:24 PM.
                                                                                                                                            I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...

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                                                                                                                                              • pornstar2pac
                                                                                                                                                Omaha Hi/Lo
                                                                                                                                                • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                • 17380
                                                                                                                                                #136
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                                                                                                                                Man the government today reminds me of the mcarthy era red scare shit where you were a commie and they fucked all kinds of peoples lives up and use it as an excuse to relly fuck with people..


                                                                                                                                                cohen was a scary monther fucker and he is in my mind like ash cr of t is today

                                                                                                                                                Lars, I took a job offer I could not pass up in the Caribbean back in 2001. I saw that shit was gonna get bad in the US econmic wise. I was there for 2 years and looked at the US from the outside view. I get back and I cannot believe what is going on here. I really am thinking of moving to Canada for a year or two and see what turns out with the US. My biz partner lives in Canada so it's not a big issue for me to go there and live and try out some Canadian trim;)
                                                                                                                                                Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

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                                                                                                                                                  • Kimmykim
                                                                                                                                                    bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                    • 16015
                                                                                                                                                    #137
                                                                                                                                                    Pass or not pass, it really doesn't matter... the people that think creatively in this business will be just fine, like they are every time the noose tightens.

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                                                                                                                                                      • tony299
                                                                                                                                                        lurker
                                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                        • 57021
                                                                                                                                                        #138
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by maxjohan
                                                                                                                                                        I agree that its easy to click the ENTER button but you cant just say... they came there because they wanted. I think that its really a good stop sign and show.. morality. Wish this industry have less and less of. Take this case for example, I bookmark XXX and on the same computer my son has a bookmark of some pokémon site. If he get curious and click my XXX site, atleast he has a choice to leave... and that is probably what he will do if he hasnt made puberty yet.

                                                                                                                                                        But then of course, you need a GOOD warning page.
                                                                                                                                                        I remember when I first started surfing the websites warning page was pretty much the warning and that was it and until you click enter you didnt see shit. People have gotten lax on that.

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                                                                                                                                                          • EviLGuY
                                                                                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                            • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                            • 12745
                                                                                                                                                            #139
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                                                                                                                                            Canadian webmasters would now have the upper hand..
                                                                                                                                                            Yeah I dont see anything the US does having a great negative effect on my business..

                                                                                                                                                            I actually think it would probably be good for the bottomline even with the turmoil.

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                                                                                                                                                              • ztik
                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                                • 5196
                                                                                                                                                                #140
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                                                                                                                                                                  • hydro
                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                    • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                                                    • 4216
                                                                                                                                                                    #141
                                                                                                                                                                    why do the courts need to even mess with the internet? Anything they do just makes things worse. For example, can spam. I can spew out millions a day right into hotmail and when microsoft calls my isp to tell them to unplug me they just say im can spam complaint and thats the end of it. Not to mention this "anti spyware" bill makes spyware legal as long as you tell people what it does. Most people are quick to click "i agree" on a website or program they are installing without reading the terms. Hosting your site offshore may or may not do the trick but most porn companies are based in the usa so they would need to setup an offshore ibc. But when you do that the whole irs/tax problem comes up

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                                                                                                                                                                      • angelsofporn
                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                        • 3218
                                                                                                                                                                        #142
                                                                                                                                                                        Everyone keeps mentioning .."just move offsore"..
                                                                                                                                                                        What about visa approval etc..you have to be in the US

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                                                                                                                                                                          • Mr.Fiction
                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                                            • 9484
                                                                                                                                                                            #143
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by angelsofporn
                                                                                                                                                                            Everyone keeps mentioning .."just move offsore"..
                                                                                                                                                                            What about visa approval etc..you have to be in the US
                                                                                                                                                                            EU corporations are able to process too, right?
                                                                                                                                                                            Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU | Free Speech Coalition | EFF | IMPA

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                                                                                                                                                                              • xxxjay
                                                                                                                                                                                Tube groupie.
                                                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                • 13482
                                                                                                                                                                                #144
                                                                                                                                                                                All you sponsor guys are in the same boat as the webmasters. You can't show that shit either on your tours.

                                                                                                                                                                                Anyoo, move offshore. That should be graet for the economy.
                                                                                                                                                                                http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • bhutocracy
                                                                                                                                                                                    Not making A Comeback
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 10218
                                                                                                                                                                                    #145
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by maxjohan
                                                                                                                                                                                    Take this case for example, I bookmark XXX and on the same computer my son has a bookmark of some pokémon site. If he get curious and click my XXX site, atleast he has a choice to leave... and that is probably what he will do if he hasnt made puberty yet.
                                                                                                                                                                                    What the fuck are you as a parent bookmarking a porn site right next to his pokemon bookmarks for and how is that any of our fault?
                                                                                                                                                                                    Last edited by bhutocracy; 06-28-2004, 05:45 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Roger
                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 3181
                                                                                                                                                                                        #146
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                                                                                                                                                                        but I would doubt that.. only if you are a threat to the "lives" of americans... ex. a terrorist threat... Otherwise.. that would be complete science fiction and Canada for exemple would never allow that...
                                                                                                                                                                                        Where have you been living? For that admin, porn is a threat. And yes a few kidnappings have already occured in other countries without the consent of the country. Complete science fiction? It's already happened.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • mardigras
                                                                                                                                                                                            Bon temps!
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 14194
                                                                                                                                                                                            #147
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by kane


                                                                                                                                                                                            Also, moving your server offshore will not protect you unless you move with it and plan on not coming back to the states.
                                                                                                                                                                                            LOL, had to read 3 pages before someone said this (was going to be my comment if no one else touched it. Unfortunately the ones who really need to understand this that brush off serious news like this with, "Fuck it, I'll just move my server offshore" have already rushed off to another thread to post, "Nukem!" or "Turn it into a parking lot".
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Roger
                                                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 3181
                                                                                                                                                                                                #148
                                                                                                                                                                                                Nobody will benefit form COPA. Who exactly will join your site without seeing samples of pics and movies?

                                                                                                                                                                                                People will find it easier to download there porn from Kazaa.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Tuna
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 1307
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                                                                                                                    i would be surprised if they pass it.


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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • clickhappy
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 4027
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #150
                                                                                                                                                                                                        If you put an ICRA filter on your main index.html page, will that filter out your entire domain?

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I'd like to be able to filter an entire domains without having to put the icra into the meta tags of each page (cuz there are thousands of them).

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