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Originally Posted by RawAlex
skillfull, the problem is with that much territory, the regions suffer because they end up spending too much money for roads, infrastructure and other things on a per resident basis. Too much money has been spent over the year in the regions to keep people employed by having the government of the day provide grants, tax exempt status, and make huge investments in projects that fail regularly.
The Gaspe is truly one of the most beautiful places in the world, but it is also NOT self supporting in any way shape or form, and like the north shore, represents a huge drain on Quebec's resources. These are the people who most want to seperate, and yet they will have little left when they do seperate. Nobody has bothered to explain to them that with upwards to 50% combined retirement, unemployment, and welfare cases, many of these areas are NOT going to be able to cut it. Too few people paying into the system, too many people taking out of the system. In many cases, the people paying into the system are working jobs that exist only because government money way put on the table to get a plant built or to modernize a factory of some sort. I know the drill, I worked for and with many people from gaspe (including nice places like Chandler, Rimouski, Mont Joli, and others... ) They would tell me stories of how people would work government supported jobs just long enough to get enough weeks to get unemployment, then go on unemployment so other people could have a job long enough to get unemployment checks. It's the same sort of thing that for years has made Newfoundland the sinkhole for federal and provincial monies.
If Quebec's GDP as a percentage of the canadian total was higher than the percentage of population, there might be a hope, but a it is, seperation today would lead to a worse tomorrow. The numbers are very clear, no matter how hard the seperatist types try to bury the truth under flags and such.
painintheass, if you are coming back to montreal, finding an apartment isn't too hard, providing you don't want anything too wild.
Alex
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dont know who said that earlisest in that thread but
Temporary foreign workers can choose the language of instruction and educational institution for their children for the duration of their stay.
and some straight fact about separation
Quebec as a country will be richer, check you fucking GPD stats, its higher per capita in Quebec that in the ROC
and check Jane Jacobs report on a separated Quebec economy, it will grow faster than a the canadian one...
next, following the internation right , Quebec shouldnt have to pay for anything on his territory, so ALL federal stuff will become Quebec stuff without any dealing from our part, we have allready military base, custom, post office and everything we need (check the report of the C.D. Howe Institut for that part, and its in the Vienne convention)
we will have to pay between 16,6% and 32% of the Canada debt, so it not a big deal...
so, if we remove the propaganda, its not a bad idea at all after all
