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RawAlex · 04-23-2005, 02:12 PM

skillfull, the problem is with that much territory, the regions suffer because they end up spending too much money for roads, infrastructure and other things on a per resident basis. Too much money has been spent over the year in the regions to keep people employed by having the government of the day provide grants, tax exempt status, and make huge investments in projects that fail regularly.

The Gaspe is truly one of the most beautiful places in the world, but it is also NOT self supporting in any way shape or form, and like the north shore, represents a huge drain on Quebec's resources. These are the people who most want to seperate, and yet they will have little left when they do seperate. Nobody has bothered to explain to them that with upwards to 50% combined retirement, unemployment, and welfare cases, many of these areas are NOT going to be able to cut it. Too few people paying into the system, too many people taking out of the system. In many cases, the people paying into the system are working jobs that exist only because government money way put on the table to get a plant built or to modernize a factory of some sort. I know the drill, I worked for and with many people from gaspe (including nice places like Chandler, Rimouski, Mont Joli, and others... ) They would tell me stories of how people would work government supported jobs just long enough to get enough weeks to get unemployment, then go on unemployment so other people could have a job long enough to get unemployment checks. It's the same sort of thing that for years has made Newfoundland the sinkhole for federal and provincial monies.

If Quebec's GDP as a percentage of the canadian total was higher than the percentage of population, there might be a hope, but a it is, seperation today would lead to a worse tomorrow. The numbers are very clear, no matter how hard the seperatist types try to bury the truth under flags and such.

painintheass, if you are coming back to montreal, finding an apartment isn't too hard, providing you don't want anything too wild.

Alex

04-23-2005, 02:12 PM
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	skillfull, the problem is with that much territory, the regions suffer because they end up spending too much money for roads, infrastructure and other things on a per resident basis. Too much money has been spent over the year in the regions to keep people employed by having the government of the day provide grants, tax exempt status, and make huge investments in projects that fail regularly. The Gaspe is truly one of the most beautiful places in the world, but it is also NOT self supporting in any way shape or form, and like the north shore, represents a huge drain on Quebec's resources. These are the people who most want to seperate, and yet they will have little left when they do seperate. Nobody has bothered to explain to them that with upwards to 50% combined retirement, unemployment, and welfare cases, many of these areas are NOT going to be able to cut it. Too few people paying into the system, too many people taking out of the system. In many cases, the people paying into the system are working jobs that exist only because government money way put on the table to get a plant built or to modernize a factory of some sort. I know the drill, I worked for and with many people from gaspe (including nice places like Chandler, Rimouski, Mont Joli, and others... ) They would tell me stories of how people would work government supported jobs just long enough to get enough weeks to get unemployment, then go on unemployment so other people could have a job long enough to get unemployment checks. It's the same sort of thing that for years has made Newfoundland the sinkhole for federal and provincial monies. If Quebec's GDP as a percentage of the canadian total was higher than the percentage of population, there might be a hope, but a it is, seperation today would lead to a worse tomorrow. The numbers are very clear, no matter how hard the seperatist types try to bury the truth under flags and such. painintheass, if you are coming back to montreal, finding an apartment isn't too hard, providing you don't want anything too wild. Alex