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  • Xenophage
    Registered User
    • Oct 2001
    • 12122
    #1

    Court ready to rule on Net porn

    Feel the fucking love

    http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5248357.html


    "If it's upheld, there will be a shock wave," said Ann Beeson

    If COPA is upheld as constitutional, the effect on adult Web sites would vary, depending on the wording of the court's opinion. One possibility is that all commercial Web sites would be prohibited from putting up "teaser" images: COPA says Webmasters who employ measures such as credit card verification or require an "adult access code" can't be prosecuted, as these would typically keep out minors.
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    • sherie
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2002
      • 7020
      #2
      Teaser images, the end of TGPs and free porn as we know it??
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        • xxxdesign-net
          My hips don't lie
          • Nov 2002
          • 10129
          #3
          Canadian webmasters would now have the upper hand..

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            • Xenophage
              Registered User
              • Oct 2001
              • 12122
              #4
              Originally posted by sherie
              Teaser images, the end of TGPs and free porn as we know it??
              yes that would be the case

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                • xxxdesign-net
                  My hips don't lie
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 10129
                  #5
                  Originally posted by sherie
                  Teaser images, the end of TGPs and free porn as we know it??
                  american sites.. but then again.. you would probably only be able to promote sites using EU visa on (non-us) TGPs..
                  Last edited by xxxdesign-net; 06-25-2004, 06:36 PM.

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                    • sid275
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • May 2004
                      • 396
                      #6
                      americans are idiots

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                        • 995Pays_Webmaster
                          Registered User
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 63
                          #7
                          So, then all the TGPs move to Non US servers
                          and problem is solved.
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                            • gornyhuy
                              Chafed.
                              • May 2002
                              • 18041
                              #8
                              More like the end of free AMERICAN porn online.
                              Instead of being a godsend that shoots conversion ratios through the roof - all affiliate business will move out of the country.


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                                • VegasSEGirl
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jun 2004
                                  • 267
                                  #9
                                  I would take that if it meant keeping them off our backs.


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                                    • Xenophage
                                      Registered User
                                      • Oct 2001
                                      • 12122
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                      Canadian webmasters would now have the upper hand..
                                      this could be the case, ya could move offshore..

                                      but the US has some new special laws that basically say we are sooo special that if we decide your a threat we can go into your country and esentually kidnap you and then hold you with out charging you. Pretty kewl what the patriot act has done .

                                      NO ONE IS SAFE ANYWHERE

                                      the sky IS falling

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                                        • Xenophage
                                          Registered User
                                          • Oct 2001
                                          • 12122
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                          american sites.. but then again.. you would probably only be able to promote sites using EU visa on (non-us) TGPs..
                                          or the government leans on Visa to make sure it is following the US law for all US citizens and thus reaches aroud the world globally and pretty much kills porn.

                                          And dont think that the Gov cant pull that off cuzz it would be cake

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                                            • JFK
                                              FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                              • Jan 2002
                                              • 67369
                                              #12
                                              they could rule as early as monday morning

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                                                • Ash@phpFX
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                  • 4292
                                                  #13
                                                  hmm, thats good for me because im in australia, but its bad for me because im hosted in the US

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                                                    • Libertine
                                                      sex dwarf
                                                      • May 2002
                                                      • 17860
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                                      this could be the case, ya could move offshore..

                                                      but the US has some new special laws that basically say we are sooo special that if we decide your a threat we can go into your country and esentually kidnap you and then hold you with out charging you. Pretty kewl what the patriot act has done .

                                                      NO ONE IS SAFE ANYWHERE

                                                      the sky IS falling
                                                      The sky is not falling. The US isn't about to risk losing it's allies trying to arrest their porn peddlers.
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                                                        • C_U_Next_Tuesday
                                                          WW4L
                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                          • 10581
                                                          #15
                                                          Does this mean that all the freeloaders will no longer be able to access free porn and actually have to pay for it..I would say YEAH!

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                                                            • Spunky
                                                              I need a beer
                                                              • Jun 2002
                                                              • 133978
                                                              #16
                                                              Lol...Unless your huge they wouldn't spend the resources to come to Canada and bust us

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                                                                • Xenophage
                                                                  Registered User
                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                  • 12122
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday
                                                                  Does this mean that all the freeloaders will no longer be able to access free porn and actually have to pay for it..I would say YEAH!
                                                                  no it will just move offshore

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                                                                    • xxxdesign-net
                                                                      My hips don't lie
                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                      • 10129
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by LegendaryLars


                                                                      but the US has some new special laws that basically say we are sooo special that if we decide your a threat we can go into your country and esentually kidnap you and then hold you with out charging you. Pretty kewl what the patriot act has done .

                                                                      NO ONE IS SAFE ANYWHERE

                                                                      the sky IS falling
                                                                      but I would doubt that.. only if you are a threat to the "lives" of americans... ex. a terrorist threat... Otherwise.. that would be complete science fiction and Canada for exemple would never allow that...
                                                                      Last edited by xxxdesign-net; 06-25-2004, 06:45 PM.

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                                                                        • ZanyCash Larry
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                                          • 1057
                                                                          #19
                                                                          It could make everybody censor everything

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                                                                            • Xenophage
                                                                              Registered User
                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                              • 12122
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by spunky1
                                                                              Lol...Unless your huge they wouldn't spend the resources to come to Canada and bust us
                                                                              I know I was just pointing out how retarded US Gov is

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                                                                                • gornyhuy
                                                                                  Chafed.
                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                  • 18041
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  The courts have struck this down time and again for the past 5 years, so hopefully they will stick to that stance.


                                                                                  VOTE KERRY.

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                                                                                    • Xenophage
                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                      • 12122
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by ZanyCash Larry
                                                                                      It could make everybody censor everything
                                                                                      Nope it will just make everyone move offshore

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                                                                                        • gornyhuy
                                                                                          Chafed.
                                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                                          • 18041
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          If we were forced to put shiny stars over all offensive stuff conversions would skyrocket - but offshore competition would kill us.

                                                                                          icq:159548293

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                                                                                            • Xenophage
                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                                              • 12122
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by gornyhuy
                                                                                              The courts have struck this down time and again for the past 5 years, so hopefully they will stick to that stance.


                                                                                              VOTE KERRY.
                                                                                              yes thats true
                                                                                              and

                                                                                              YES

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                                                                                                • SoBeGirl Video
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                                  • 2493
                                                                                                  #25
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                                                                                                    • sherie
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                                                      • 7020
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                                                                                      yes that would be the case
                                                                                                      I'm aware and I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing. Unfortunately, the US government is the one to regulate an unregulated system.
                                                                                                      Last edited by sherie; 06-25-2004, 06:57 PM.
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                                                                                                        • Mr Pheer
                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                                                          • 22082
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          I hope it passes this time, my business wil grow several hundred percent

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                                                                                                            • neewwman
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                                              • 1737
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              I hear surprisingly little talk about this from webmasters.

                                                                                                              If COPA is upheld:
                                                                                                              It is the end of U.S. free sites.
                                                                                                              It is the end of U.S. TGPs

                                                                                                              WTF are people who've built hundreds of free sites going to do?

                                                                                                              My prediction is it won't be upheld. The last Supreme Court decision is so complex (mutiple different opinions) that it makes your head spin, but my overall impression was the votes are probably there to strike COPA down.

                                                                                                              Vote KERRY so Bush can't appoint more conservatives to the Supreme Court.

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                                                                                                                • SykkBoy2
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                                                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                  • 19969
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  from a sponsor standpoint, I'm thrilled
                                                                                                                  from a submitter, webmaster point, I'm a little worried
                                                                                                                  but overall, this could lead to better conversions...
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                                                                                                                    • Meta Ridley
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                                                                                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                      • 3433
                                                                                                                      #30
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                                                                                                                        • WiredGuy
                                                                                                                          Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                          • 34515
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by MrPheer
                                                                                                                          I hope it passes this time, my business wil grow several hundred percent
                                                                                                                          I play with Google.

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                                                                                                                            • Vitasoy
                                                                                                                              GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                              • 58202
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                                                                                                              this could be the case, ya could move offshore..

                                                                                                                              but the US has some new special laws that basically say we are sooo special that if we decide your a threat we can go into your country and esentually kidnap you and then hold you with out charging you. Pretty kewl what the patriot act has done .

                                                                                                                              NO ONE IS SAFE ANYWHERE

                                                                                                                              the sky IS falling


                                                                                                                              [email protected]

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                                                                                                                                • Shoplifter
                                                                                                                                  Richest man in Babylon
                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 5866
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                                                                                                                  Nope it will just make everyone move offshore
                                                                                                                                  Well that's my thought. Say you are EU and using CCBillEU what would this do to you? Probably squat as long as you are hosted offshore as well.
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                                                                                                                                    • Doctor Dre
                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 51692
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by gornyhuy
                                                                                                                                      More like the end of free AMERICAN porn online.
                                                                                                                                      Instead of being a godsend that shoots conversion ratios through the roof - all affiliate business will move out of the country.
                                                                                                                                      Visa will follow ...
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                                                                                                                                        • SinEmpire
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                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 9813
                                                                                                                                          #35
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                                                                                                                                            • Fabuleux
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                                                                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 2543
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              I sell cheap dedicated servers located in a datacenter directly connected to the Amsterdam Internet Exchange.

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                                                                                                                                                • Webby
                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 14956
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  LegendaryLars:


                                                                                                                                                  this could be the case, ya could move offshore..

                                                                                                                                                  but the US has some new special laws that basically say we are sooo special that if we decide your a threat we can go into your country and esentually kidnap you and then hold you with out charging you. Pretty kewl what the patriot act has done .
                                                                                                                                                  You said it! Dangerous shit.

                                                                                                                                                  Totally agree about offshore - tho there is a real messy scenario on this for US webmasters - ie the US govt has ya by the bollocks from birth to grave and wants to know *everything* and file tax returns wherever you are in the world. Kinda defeats the purpose of "offshore" :-) Tho there are ways
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                                                                                                                                                    • Webby
                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 14956
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Fabuleux:

                                                                                                                                                      I sell cheap dedicated servers located in a datacenter directly connected to the Amsterdam Internet Exchange.
                                                                                                                                                      Yep - only a matter of time before BW is being pumped there!
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                                                                                                                                                        • TheJimmy
                                                                                                                                                          ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0
                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 10747
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          I've been COPA comliant for a v long time now...so I'm not too worried...

                                                                                                                                                          however, if they rule in favor of COPA it will be a sad day for the 1st Amendment


                                                                                                                                                          my bet is that they WILL rule in favor of COPA this time, my rationale is that with all the recent Visa pullouts and other large companies pulling out of the lucrative adult online biz processing (paypal, card services, etc) ...that this is just the writing on the wall that those companies got some word from high up that it was going to be upheld this time...and to get out now before they get slammed with RICO (conspiracy) type charges....I'm sure they opted for the safe route and hit the road...



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                                                                                                                                                            • TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                              • 13827
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Nothing really to much to worry about...

                                                                                                                                                              Off shore hosting is pretty solid.. It's easy to get domains under a management company in another country..
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                                                                                                                                                                • chodadog
                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 9736
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by gornyhuy VOTE KERRY.
                                                                                                                                                                  Wasn't it Clinton that first signed off on COPA years ago?
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                                                                                                                                                                    • jimmyf
                                                                                                                                                                      OU812
                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                                      • 12651
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by chodadog
                                                                                                                                                                      Wasn't it Clinton that first signed off on COPA years ago?
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Mr.Fiction
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 9484
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          What part of the 1st Amendment do stupid lawmakers not understand?

                                                                                                                                                                          Forget the money part of this for a second and think about your freedom.

                                                                                                                                                                          This law is extremely broad and subjective. Anything that is offensive to anyone's child could be illegal under the law.

                                                                                                                                                                          It would be a very bad day for freedom in America if it passed as written.

                                                                                                                                                                          Freedom is more important than money.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                                                              Too old to care
                                                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                                              • 52942
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              If you're an American citizen moving off shore is not an option unless you never return home.

                                                                                                                                                                              Thinking this will close down the pron industry is defeatist talk. Bush and Ashhahahahaha might not be the sharpest tools in the box but they know if they shut down porn in the US they could not get elected as the town dog catchers.

                                                                                                                                                                              Too many Americans buy porn on the Net and they want to kep their jobs. While looking to be tough on porn.



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                                                                                                                                                                                • Webby
                                                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 14956
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  charly:

                                                                                                                                                                                  If you're an American citizen moving off shore is not an option unless you never return home.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Agree charly!

                                                                                                                                                                                  I am offshore and the place is already flooded with US webmaster "escapees"
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Theo
                                                                                                                                                                                      HAL 9000
                                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 34515
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by chodadog
                                                                                                                                                                                      Wasn't it Clinton that first signed off on COPA years ago?
                                                                                                                                                                                      yes he was

                                                                                                                                                                                      "COPA says Webmasters who employ measures such as credit card verification or require an "adult access code" can't be prosecuted, as these would typically keep out minors"

                                                                                                                                                                                      so we are going back to CCs as a mean of age verification?

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • maxjohan
                                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 7219
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by MrPheer
                                                                                                                                                                                          I hope it passes this time, my business wil grow several hundred percent
                                                                                                                                                                                          just because you have a ton of bookmarks
                                                                                                                                                                                          I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • FlyingIguana
                                                                                                                                                                                              aspiring banker
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 10870
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by sherie
                                                                                                                                                                                              Teaser images, the end of TGPs and free porn as we know it??
                                                                                                                                                                                              they'd end up behind free avs sites

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Spunky
                                                                                                                                                                                                  I need a beer
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 133978
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  You buggers better not think of moving here now...Walrus is scarce and the ice for our igloos is at a premium...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • tony299
                                                                                                                                                                                                      lurker
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 57021
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      First you just can't move a server offshore you would have to move with it because if they trace the money back to the US you are fucked in the ass hard. Also the US owns the bulk of the adult trade on the net , I dont think that will stop but people will have to clean up their act. I have had a nonnude tour for 3yrs , sales went up enough for me to come home full time for over 2 yrs now. All free sites we have are non nude you want nude you pay. For years you couldnt see shit till you paid. Go walk into a dirty book and take the plastic off the magazine and say I want to look at it first. They will throw you out on your ass lol. If it happens its mostly big corporate porns fault my emailbox is filled with graphic pics everyday from American companies not overseas but our industry only thinks about money today and not the future well the future is coming to bite you on the ass. lol
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Last edited by tony286; 06-25-2004, 08:45 PM.

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