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  • loverboy
    When it rains, it pours
    • May 2003
    • 20609

    #1

    Schwarzenegger: State's stray animals should die sooner

    this is what my puppy has to say



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    Friday, June 25, 2004 Posted: 11:34 AM EDT (1534 GMT)

    SACRAMENTO, California (AP) -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger wants to repeal a state law that requires animal shelters to hold stray dogs and cats for up to six days before killing them.

    Instead, there would be a three-day requirement for strays. Other animals, including birds, hamsters, potbellied pigs, rabbits, snakes and turtles, could be killed immediately.

    Schwarzenegger has told the state Legislature that the changes could save local governments that operate shelters up to $14 million.

    An estimated 600,000 dogs and cats are put to death each year in California, including 34,000 in Los Angeles alone.

    The waiting period has caused overcrowding and forced some shelters to kill off animals simply to make room for new ones, said H.D. Palmer, a spokesman for the state Department of Finance.

    "Because of space limitations, the shelters are being forced to euthanize animals who are otherwise highly adoptable immediately after the holding time," Palmer said.

    Despite Schwarzenegger's huge popularity, some political observers think the proposal will meet stiff resistance.

    "There is no organized constituency of cats and dogs, but certainly the pet owners of America will find this reprehensible," said Barbara O'Connor, director of the Institute for the Study of Politics and Media at California State University, Sacramento.

    "Cats and dogs are like mom and apple pie," she said. "Don't mess with the pets. Most people prefer them to other people."

    The 1998 law is named for former state Sen. Tom Hayden, who said the governor's proposal "will inflict heartbreak on a lot of owners and people in the animal adoption world."
  • Theo
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    • May 2001
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    #2
    "An estimated 600,000 dogs and cats are put to death each year in California"


    WOW

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    • phillyrich
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      • Jul 2003
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      #3
      Schwarzenegger, should shut the f*** up.
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      • CE_BigB
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        • tony299
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          • Aug 2002
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          #5
          Its that Germanic need to put things to death lol.

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          • bhutocracy
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            • Dec 2001
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            #6
            meh..
            they should be microchipped like in Australia.

            $20 and painless.. you'll never have your pet put down.

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            • JFK
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              #7
              Originally posted by tony404
              Its that Germanic need to put things to death lol.
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              • loverboy
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                • May 2003
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                #8
                this will surely put Arnie in the hot seat esp. from animal lovers... an eye cather for an inexperienced politician

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                • gazool
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                  • HammerALL
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                    • Apr 2004
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by bhutocracy
                    meh..
                    they should be microchipped like in Australia.

                    $20 and painless.. you'll never have your pet put down.
                    I agree man - I got my dog microchipped - and I feel a whole lot better about it - no matter where he gets picked up - with or without his colar - they can bring him home.
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                    • bhutocracy
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                      • Dec 2001
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                      #11
                      I mean really.. how long can you expect the govenment to take care of your pet for you? and you want to pay less tax at the same time.

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                      • bhutocracy
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                        • Dec 2001
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by SlickCash Mario
                        I agree man - I got my dog microchipped - and I feel a whole lot better about it - no matter where he gets picked up - with or without his colar - they can bring him home.
                        yeah .. it's just the 100% sensible thing to do.. I don't know how you couldn't..

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                        • CDSmith
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                          • May 2001
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                          #13
                          Funny I don't see anyone actually coming up with a counter-plan though. Notice no one is stepping up and offering a way to keep the stray dogs and cats alive longer? People will bitch and whine and fuss about this but heaven forbid they form an organization that can accept the strays and keep them alive for longer.

                          And why are there so many strays in the first place? Oh that's right.... mostly useless pet owners who "thought" they could handle a dog etc but let it get away. People who care about their pet look aggressively for it and only a few hours or a day passes before they pick it up from the animal shelter. It would be a cold day in hell before I'd let my dog stay in a shelter for more time than that.

                          And lastly, ... it's a proposal. Arnie is looking for ways to save the state some money, which is partly why he was elected. If there is too much resistance I'm sure the guy will do the right thing and retract the proposal, because he's a pretty decent guy when you get right down to it.

                          Maybe the people who need to "STFU" are right here on this thread?
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                          • loverboy
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                            • May 2003
                            • 20609

                            #14
                            Originally posted by CDSmith
                            Funny I don't see anyone actually coming up with a counter-plan though. Notice no one is stepping up and offering a way to keep the stray dogs and cats alive longer? People will bitch and whine and fuss about this but heaven forbid they form an organization that can accept the strays and keep them alive for longer.

                            And why are there so many strays in the first place? Oh that's right.... mostly useless pet owners who "thought" they could handle a dog etc but let it get away. People who care about their pet look aggressively for it and only a few hours or a day passes before they pick it up from the animal shelter. It would be a cold day in hell before I'd let my dog stay in a shelter for more time than that.

                            And lastly, ... it's a proposal. Arnie is looking for ways to save the state some money, which is partly why he was elected. If there is too much resistance I'm sure the guy will do the right thing and retract the proposal, because he's a pretty decent guy when you get right down to it.

                            Maybe the people who need to "STFU" are right here on this thread?
                            well, i do agree on your insights about this. surely pet owners will take this one seriously and spend more attention to their animals once the propasal in put into law

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                            • bhutocracy
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                              • Dec 2001
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by CDSmith
                              It would be a cold day in hell before I'd let my dog stay in a shelter for more time than that.
                              My dog briefly wandered a few years ago after someone left my gate open and I STILL called the pound straight away even though it was microchipped and they would have called me anyways lol.. little bastard had just gone down to the park and then hung around an adjacent jobsite where it got fed which is why we couldn't find it at the park..

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                              • jpwhits
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                                • Mar 2004
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                                #16
                                That puppy is pimp! What breed is it?
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                                • zanycash Pete
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                                  • Jun 2004
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by loverboy
                                  this is what my puppy has to say



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                                  Friday, June 25, 2004 Posted: 11:34 AM EDT (1534 GMT)

                                  SACRAMENTO, California (AP) -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger wants to repeal a state law that requires animal shelters to hold stray dogs and cats for up to six days before killing them.

                                  Instead, there would be a three-day requirement for strays. Other animals, including birds, hamsters, potbellied pigs, rabbits, snakes and turtles, could be killed immediately.

                                  Schwarzenegger has told the state Legislature that the changes could save local governments that operate shelters up to $14 million.

                                  An estimated 600,000 dogs and cats are put to death each year in California, including 34,000 in Los Angeles alone.

                                  The waiting period has caused overcrowding and forced some shelters to kill off animals simply to make room for new ones, said H.D. Palmer, a spokesman for the state Department of Finance.

                                  "Because of space limitations, the shelters are being forced to euthanize animals who are otherwise highly adoptable immediately after the holding time," Palmer said.

                                  Despite Schwarzenegger's huge popularity, some political observers think the proposal will meet stiff resistance.

                                  "There is no organized constituency of cats and dogs, but certainly the pet owners of America will find this reprehensible," said Barbara O'Connor, director of the Institute for the Study of Politics and Media at California State University, Sacramento.

                                  "Cats and dogs are like mom and apple pie," she said. "Don't mess with the pets. Most people prefer them to other people."

                                  The 1998 law is named for former state Sen. Tom Hayden, who said the governor's proposal "will inflict heartbreak on a lot of owners and people in the animal adoption world."

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                                  • tootie
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                                    #18
                                    OMG what a cute puppy!


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                                    • foolio
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                                      • Nov 2002
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by bhutocracy
                                      I mean really.. how long can you expect the govenment to take care of your pet for you? and you want to pay less tax at the same time.
                                      Yup - I rather have my kid get new schoolbooks, or have a firefighter be padi for rather than keep some stupid stray dog alive.

                                      If the owners really did care they would put a microchip in the animal and THERE WOULD BE NO PROBLEM with this.

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                                      • tyler86ed
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                                        • Jan 2004
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                                        #20
                                        HAHA. Its arnolds fault that idiots in society can't take care of their own pets. Shit....

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                                        • jmk
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                                          • Sep 2002
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                                          #21
                                          Isn't the real issue all those fuckers that put animals on the streets and let them loose!
                                          If you love animals you don't get a pet and then realize you can't take care of him.

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                                          • SleazeQueen
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                                            • Jun 2002
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by bhutocracy
                                            meh..
                                            they should be microchipped like in Australia.
                                            $20 and painless.. you'll never have your pet put down.
                                            I saw a news story a couple of weeks ago about a dog being put down, even though it was chipped, before his owners could get to the pound to pick it up.

                                            Apparently it was chipped at PetCo's vet service and the chips they use are not compatible with the scanners at most vet and shelter offices in the US.

                                            I am paranoid about someone "borrowing" my dog. I don't know if I'd remember how to type without her sitting just above the keyboard, trying to help.
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                                              • bhutocracy
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by SleazeQueen
                                                I saw a news story a couple of weeks ago about a dog being put down, even though it was chipped, before his owners could get to the pound to pick it up.

                                                Apparently it was chipped at PetCo's vet service and the chips they use are not compatible with the scanners at most vet and shelter offices in the US.

                                                I am paranoid about someone "borrowing" my dog. I don't know if I'd remember how to type without her sitting just above the keyboard, trying to help.
                                                It's the law in Australia that you have to have your pet chipped, all scanners and chips are standardised although thats probably an easier task in a much smaller country like oz.

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                                                • loverboy
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                                                  • May 2003
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jpwhits
                                                  That puppy is pimp! What breed is it?
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                                                  • loverboy
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                                                    • May 2003
                                                    • 20609

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by bhutocracy
                                                    It's the law in Australia that you have to have your pet chipped, all scanners and chips are standardised although thats probably an easier task in a much smaller country like oz.
                                                    but would it be cost effective? Californians are one of the richest states and with such proposal, they can afford to buy a chip for their expensive pets

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                                                    • loverboy
                                                      When it rains, it pours
                                                      • May 2003
                                                      • 20609

                                                      #27
                                                      this thread deserves a late night bump for all pet loving owners in Calif. area

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                                                      • evildick

                                                        #28
                                                        Does it really make him a bad person by changing it from 6 days to 3 days? He's saving tax payers 14 million.

                                                        Is the person that originally set the restriction to 6 days a saint for extending an animal's life by a measly 3 days?

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                                                        • roaringleo
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                                                          • Jun 2004
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by CE_BigB
                                                          Anyone that thinks Arnie is helping KALEEEFORRNIAAA needs to be Terminated!!



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                                                          • Libertine
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                                                            • May 2002
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                                                            #30
                                                            <i>"Because of space limitations, the shelters are being forced to euthanize animals who are otherwise highly adoptable immediately after the holding time," Palmer said.</i>


                                                            I'm against the pet killing thing period, but if you're gonna do it anyway, this change would actually <b>save</b> lives.
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                                                            • DatingGold
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                                                              #31
                                                              let's just put him and his tranny wife to sleep
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                                                              • SexxxyChat-T
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                                                                #32
                                                                I agree with this, the animals are going to be dead in a few days anyways, and with the overcrowding, most of them don't even make it that far to begin with.

                                                                Plus, finding ways to save a few million is why Californians elected the man in the first place right?
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                                                                • Elli
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                                                                  #33
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                                                                  • Vitasoy
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Elli
                                                                    That puppy rocks.


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                                                                    • loverboy
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                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                      • 20609

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by DatingGold
                                                                      let's just put him and his tranny wife to sleep

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                                                                      • Sifu
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        lol the puppy looks like it is about to bite your balls offf.
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                                                                        • loverboy
                                                                          When it rains, it pours
                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                          • 20609

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Elli


                                                                          close, but his name is "Frodo"

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                                                                          • Elli
                                                                            Reach for those stars!
                                                                            • Apr 2003
                                                                            • 17991

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by loverboy


                                                                            close, but his name is "Frodo"
                                                                            Your dog has certainly made the rounds, then. A non-porn friend sent me a link to this picture a few months ago.
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                                                                            • fuelcell
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Incredibly sad to see 600,000 dogs and cats are killed every year in California alone.

                                                                              A lot of that would go away if people just remembered to spade or neuter their pets.

                                                                              (simple math: 6,000,000 in ten years - that's a lot of fucking cats and dogs!)
                                                                              Beat it. Nothing to see here.

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                                                                              • bhutocracy
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by loverboy
                                                                                but would it be cost effective? Californians are one of the richest states and with such proposal, they can afford to buy a chip for their expensive pets
                                                                                cost effective? the law is YOU have to go out and spend $20 on your pet.. doesn't get much more cost effective than that. Most people get it done when the puppies get their shots.

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                                                                                • loverboy
                                                                                  When it rains, it pours
                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                  • 20609

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by bhutocracy
                                                                                  cost effective? the law is YOU have to go out and spend $20 on your pet.. doesn't get much more cost effective than that. Most people get it done when the puppies get their shots.
                                                                                  that would be $12 Million for 600, 000 stary cats and dogs...

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                                                                                  • bhutocracy
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by loverboy
                                                                                    that would be $12 Million for 600, 000 stary cats and dogs...
                                                                                    your point is?

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                                                                                    • genomega
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Maybe they just need to open a few more chinese restaurants.


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