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We have spoken, sonofsam and I.
Here are MY conclusions and MY opinions.
We have agreed to disagree about opinions.
I believe he is wrong. He does not. I wished him well. End of story.Raven
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Hey Aaron,Originally posted by AaronM
Let me put in my input and my suggestions.
Option 1: Probably the best option and the way to peacefully get everything finished. After that just never deal with him again.
Option 2: Could cause more drama and legal actions. Expensive and time consuming....
Option 3: May work, but remember he is from Canada so laws are laxed and will be difficult to take on with such a small case....this is from experience with international law.
Option 4: Will never hold up in court and a waste of money...option 4 is not really an option at all.
So thats my input.
Hope that helps to see it from another persons perspective.
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Quite frankly, nobody cares about your opinions. I don't know why he even bothered talking with the likes of you and I don;t care to know what the conversation was about as I have a pretty good idea that it most liekly involved you spending 3 hours about how important you are and how much of an idiot anyone who doesn't agree with you is.Originally posted by Raven
Until yesterday I never heard of you but I already got the impression that your soul purpuse is to make people know how important, respected and how much of an all knowing adult master you are.
Who the fuck are you? What do you do? Where do you come from besides 12 feet up Aaron's ass. Cripes, you're so deep that you have brown stains on your toes.
Nobody likes a gloat girl, and nobody cares for your opinion besides your brownnosing mates.
Fuck you're irritating.Comment
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1: Allow him to make final payment then send him the license and 2257 and call it good.
This should be the only option you choose.Comment
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You shouldn't think of yourself as a nobody. I think you need a bankie and a story and perhaps a healthy dose of your happy place.Originally posted by iwantchixxRaven
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He already sent him $4,500 and only owes $860Originally posted by J-Reel
Aaron... I didn't know you were a Bank too. Can I buy some content from you, I'll pay you IF I can make money off it.
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It was brought to the boards because AaronM would not discuss it with him on ICQ.Originally posted by xenigoComment
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If you sue him for posting a few pics on a message board you are pretty sad. Sad indeed. Let him pay you the rest of the money, give him the license, done deal. Why is that so hard?Originally posted by AaronMComment
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thanks content producer, i really appreciate your support but i don't want people to flame you for sticking up for me... but i do appreciate it man... nice to know someone sees it like i do
and als thank you so much for the content you send me, you have been nothing but professional.... and i hope we can do a lot of future business...I like turtles.Comment
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Chixx, you said in one of your previous posts that you are just a guy who is here trying to help things along and help out an "aquaintance", or words to that effect. Raven was here for the same reason, and from what I've seen of her posts over the years both here and on Cozy Campus she is quite good at it. I read her last post (the one you quoted) as she tried, her attempt failed, at least she tried. Why the hate-filled bitchslap?Originally posted by iwantchixx
And, if you don't know who she is and what she does that's really your problem, not hers.Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!
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she tried what? she tried to make me see aarons point of view... obviously i wouldn't agree if this drama is going on..Originally posted by CDSmithI like turtles.Comment
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i see yourOriginally posted by abyss_al
and raise you
I like turtles.Comment
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Take what Content Producer has been saying in these threads with a grain of salt. He does make useful posts, and I like him, but he's clearly showing pure jealousy of another content producer in this thread and the one sonofsam started. If I didn't realize he's just talking from jealousy I'd get really pissed off that another content producer could make such ridiculous posts.Comment
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actually content producer has been a friend of mine from the beginning when i started posting here, and helped me with a shitload of newbie questions and has watched me try and work my way up... hes simply being a good friend... a lot of people wont even voice their opinions.. i have respect for someone like him putting himself on the line to defend their opinionOriginally posted by DonovanPhillipsI like turtles.Comment
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iwantchixx,
I'm surprised you've never heard of Raven. She's old school. Been around forever and knows what she's talking about.
I'm not going to insult you, although you deserve it after that post you made to her, but man... where've ya been?Comment
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Originally posted by sonofsami see your
and raise you
i call your and raise you
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True friends give solid advice, whether you like it or not. He's been dumping complete shit in your ears in these two threads.Originally posted by sonofsamComment
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Where did I say I was a nobody?Originally posted by Raven
I supose I deserve that remark for harping on you so hard though. Either way you're just getting under my skin. Nothing drives me more mad than a gloat.Comment
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also i've been meaning to ask you... you being aarons good friend... do you agree with me that you are somewhat biassed?Originally posted by DonovanPhillipsI like turtles.Comment
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Why do you assume he is jealous?Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
You dont think it possible he could be with Sam on this one?
There seems to be a few people who do agree to an extent with Sam and Im sure they are not all content producers.Comment
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You're doing it again, Sonofsam.Originally posted by sonofsam
I did not try to get you to see Aaron's point of view.
What I attempted to do was to get you to stop acting like a newb and digging a deeper hole for yourself.
Without going into a long song and dance, it ended with you sticking with your opinion and I disagreed with it. I told you my opinion and what I would do, in your shoes....although..I would never have let it go this far....and you disagreed with that.
Tell it the way it happened, sonofsam......for real.
I got off the phone because I did not get the impression that you wanted the situation resolved in a healthy business manner. There was nothing more to say.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahaha=
Thanks, CD for the post...I'm not sure where or why the attack came from....I don't recall ever trying to portray myself as an all knowing guru adult master....and, I especially am not up Aaron's ass. We disagree many times.Raven
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I am not now or ever would be jealous of AaronM. I am simply stating my opinions. The kid paid a good amount of money (which I am sure is not much to Aaron but everything to sonofsam) and all AaronM can do is bully the kid around. I do think that if it was me that got the content, I would have thrown out the shit sets and called it a day, but that may be because I am 39 years old and experienced and sonofsam is not. He learned a lot from this, he is just trying to make it in the biz, he is not trying to scam anyone.Originally posted by DonovanPhillipsComment
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i just got off the phone with my grandma... add +1 to team sonofsamOriginally posted by damian2001
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Since Aaron presently holds your license AND the money you've paid so far, I'd say you better start seeing his side, and fast. There are times in life when you just need to know when to drop your pride and what *you* think is right and just get things solved, and move ON.Originally posted by sonofsam
Hasn't this gone on long enough?
My advice is unchanged since yesterday, and it is as sound today as it was then, judging by everything I've read on this thread. That being, I recommend you forward the remainder of the payment Aaron says you owe him, get your license, and get on with it. And maybe, if you can manage not to piss him off any further, maybe, just maybe.... I'm hoping he'll be willing to exchange some of those sets to ones you think are more suitable.
But that last part is iffy.
Now, you guys can continue quibbling and getting nowhere fast (do you enjoy spinning your wheels? I don't), or you can try taking my advice and getting this settled. I am sure if you did so Aaron would become more reasonable as well. Try it.Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!
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if i was in it for scamming, the first person i would have scammed would have been DarkJedi when i could have and gotten away with it.Originally posted by ContentProducerI like turtles.Comment
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When a high school girl starts giving her insights on life, and two adults who happen to be friends both agree that she's speaking out of pure ignorance, does it make the biased to agree?Originally posted by sonofsam
You are very young and very naive and very, very wrong in this case.
Three Examples:
1. Thinking you can or should be able to resell licensed content.
2. Thinking you can or should be able to trade licensed content.
3. Thinking that all 140 models in a bulk package will be Tawnee Stone part II.Comment
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I say give the kid a break, let him pay the rest of the deal, give him his content and it's gonna be over with ... the guy is like 18-19 ... he still has a lot to learn about business (eg contracts with models among other things) . People gave me a break when I was wrong, and right now I wouldn't do the same stupid mistakes .Originally posted by rayadp05Comment
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Thanks, Donovan....Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
I have no quarrel with iwantchixxx, although that post seemed like a blind side...
Actually, he and I have spoken on a few occasions on dmpm...
I simply did not agree with sonofsam's position; as I tried to explain, there comes a point where you do what you have to do to resolve. He did not seem interested in resolution, only who's right and who's wrong; who's biased and who isn't.
I've also noticed, sonofsam, that, while you're talking about Donovan and I being 'biased', you also have your champions.
It was great seeing you in Phoenix....Donovan. Next time, try the quail eggs!Raven
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Originally posted by CDSmith
This I agree with. Why dont sonofsam and AaronM get on the phone and work it out. Get off the boards with it guys.Comment
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I won't basically say i'm wrong and that i'm sorry... because even if i AM wrong... i honestly believe i have a valid arguement... but of course i would be willing to work something out with aaron... but if it involved me lying and saying something i don't believe then i don't... your opinion and standing for what you think, whether its right or wrong is worth more then moneyOriginally posted by CDSmith
I like turtles.Comment
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Originally posted by CDSmith
There's a difference between helping out someone and completely gloating and insulting. Not once did I insult anyone (until Raven irritated me, which takes a lot) in my quest to help Sam out. I carried myself more proffesionally than that.
I'll make a formal appology right here and now to Raven. Sorry if I offended you Raven.
However, you reap what you sew.Comment
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The kid's ignorance is not an excuse to give him wrong advice. "Hey, he's new so we'll give him different rules than everybody else". He got 140 models that are very undersold. He got a good deal. He has nothing to bitch about.Originally posted by ContentProducerComment
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i don't have to say i am wrong and sorry for this to be resolved.... why can't it be resolved without stroking someones ego???
aaron thinks hes right, i think i'm right... lets leave it at that and resolve it.Last edited by sonofsam; 04-19-2005, 08:12 PM.I like turtles.Comment
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Originally posted by CDSmith
Good post, I agree fully. However, Sam is VERY determined to stick to his guns, ya have to give that much to him. It's just too bad it's going to all cause more headaches than anything in the long run.Comment
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Well, yeah.Originally posted by iwantchixx
Still, you're taking my words as a gloat, which, honestly they were not.Raven
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I've tried them in the past. Not much of a fan.Originally posted by Raven
But, man, did you see how much nigiri I got to eat? Ordered a HUGE order for 4 and 2 people in our party had never tried sushi. They couldn't hack it so I got to eat their share.
I wonder if Aaron still has the pics. That was the first time in my life that I've eaten so much sushi that I had to stop from being too full, with 6 or 7 more pieces sitting on the table.
Yum!
Speaking of sushi, I had it last night and the night before as well.Comment
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I saw this as reply #8. Given that I'd go with option #5 if I was Aaron.Originally posted by sonofsam
Sonofsam, all you had to do was just shut the fuck up and not say a damn thing in this thread. But NO, you just had to pipe right in and throw more gasoline on the fire. Thanks for playing, you LOSE. Do not pass go, do not collect $200 (or the 2257's), thanks for playing the ultimate noob.
Repeat this line in preparation for your new career in the food sevice industry.
"Do you want fries with that?"
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Your apology is accepted....and thank you Donovan and CD for standing up for me.Originally posted by iwantchixx
You didn't offend me. You surprised me. That doesn't happen often.
It's okay, though. I'm done.Raven
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Do you want fries.... do you want..... do you... FUCK.... hold on... do you want frrrr.... frrrrr..... i can't do it... is there another job opening in another industry? ... janitorial or ?Originally posted by TexasDreamsI saw this as reply #8. Given that I'd go with option #5 if I was Aaron.
Sonofsam, all you had to do was just shut the fuck up and not say a damn thing in this thread. But NO, you just had to pipe right in and throw more gasoline on the fire. Thanks for playing, you LOSE. Do not pass go, do not collect $200 (or the 2257's), thanks for playing the ultimate noob.
Repeat this line in preparation for your new career in the food sevice industry.
"Do you want fries with that?"
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We actually left food on the table. Speaking of pics....that's right. He does have them...I'll have to nag at him to send us a set!!!!Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
And, yeah. I don't recall you sharing that nigiri, either. ;)
Have a good one, Donovan...say hi to Belinda...I'm outta here.Raven
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Sam, dude, I'm telling you right now, you need to quit telling everyone what you're NOT willing to do and get your situation solved. I am starting to see why Raven took a hard-line stance with you, you don't seem to want to bend towards a solution at all.Originally posted by sonofsamI won't basically say i'm wrong and that i'm sorry... because even if i AM wrong... i honestly believe i have a valid arguement... but of course i would be willing to work something out with aaron... but if it involved me lying and saying something i don't believe then i don't... your opinion and standing for what you think, whether its right or wrong is worth more then money
Where is it such a compromise of your principles to follow what I suggested? I'm not saying you should kiss the guy's feet. Okay, I'll tell you what.... and maybe what I am about to say will hit home with you..... ready? Here goes....
Sometimes, the party in a dispute who makes the most effort to get things solved ends up looking like a bigger man.
I'll leave you with that. Good luck.Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!
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i am willing to resolve it... whatever it takes... however compromising and basically saying "hey everyone, im a liar... and i'm admitting it so that i can get my content" ... doesn't work..Originally posted by CDSmith
i want to solve this... believe me.I like turtles.Comment
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Score.Originally posted by iwantchixx
Raven your opinion doesnt matter here. It isnt an opinon, we all know who you are rooting for.
Aaron, i honestly dont think you will go for the lawsuit, nor do i hope you will.
Just let him pay you and give him the content.Care about me?
Who?
Me!
Who?Comment
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You offer me a solution where it can be resolved without me making myself look like a liar... and i'll do it... whatever it is.I like turtles.Comment
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Has anybody noticed AaronM's not even here? He's just out for the night doing business as usual.
I said what I needed to towards sonofsam in private. I'll say it again publicly. This needs to be resolved off the boards because it's over a balance of less than 1k and it's not hurting AaronM at all he'll still sell content bt it may have damaged the new paysite to the tune of lots of affiliates meaning lots of cash.
there's my 2 cents.
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This is what you and Aaron did yesterday....Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
You seem to think you have a right to tell him what he should like - he dosnt like what Aaron sold him.... It may be the best content and will sell like nothing else, but if he dosnt want it dont try and tell him Aaron is doing him a favor. He is a content producer and not a consultant, he should sell the customer want the customer wants.
A refund or other solution needs to be worked out. Not this arrogant "you will thank me for this" bullshit.Comment
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I can tell you just aren't reading my words right. I have no idea what the problem is, some of the meaning seems to be getting lost somewhere between my post and your information processor.Originally posted by sonofsam
Maybe you should reread what I've said and think on it before you reply.Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!
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i did read what you said... you said don't post what you "wont do to resolve it"Originally posted by CDSmith
but like i said... show me something that doesn't involve what i just posted.. and i would be happy to resolve it...I like turtles.Comment
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