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  • OFFBEAT
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2003
    • 398
    #1

    WEBAIR - Are these guys for real? HAHAHAHAH

    Are these guys for real? This is something I should've been told BEFORE I signed up and transfered my domains over to their servers.

    Stupid.

    ########## Begin Message ##########
    Hello,
    I've added xxxxx.com to your FTP. Regarding SSH, We require
    you to fax in a copy of your drivers license to 516-938-5100 with this
    ticket # to be approved for SSH access.

    Please let me know if you need anything else.

    Thanks,

    ----------------------------------------
    Sagi Brody
    Webair Internet Development, Inc.
    Phone: 1 866 WEBAIR 1
    Fax: 516.938.5100
    http://www.webair.com
    [email protected]
    AIM: webairsagi
    ICQ: 146240554
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    • Abyss_Vee
      Confirmed User
      • Sep 2003
      • 5208
      #2
      never happened to me

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        • Fukeneh
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2004
          • 1245
          #3
          i lease whole servers and they sure kick ass for me. and iv never had to fax shit for root access even, let alone SSH.

          however jupiter on the other hand wanted me to fax shit just to pay with credit card, after i had done so numerous times in the past.

          i webair!

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            • OFFBEAT
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2003
              • 398
              #4
              I seriously hope this is a joke.

              I tar/gziped my sites from my previous host and FTP into webair.

              I can't uncompress my web content without SSH! Are these guys retarded?

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                • rdunn404
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 999
                  #5
                  Is this a dedicated server or virtual?

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                    • Fabuleux
                      Confirmed User
                      • May 2003
                      • 2543
                      #6
                      Sounds like they don't know how set configure a safe SSH shell.

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                        • OFFBEAT
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 398
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Fukeneh
                          however jupiter on the other hand wanted me to fax shit just to pay with credit card, after i had done so numerous times in the past.
                          that's understandable for credit card processing. but SSH access? give me a break!

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                            • StuartD
                              Sofa King Band
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 29903
                              #8
                              I think this is going to be very amusing.
                              This is me on facebook
                              This is me on twitter

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                                • OFFBEAT
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2003
                                  • 398
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by rdunn404
                                  Is this a dedicated server or virtual?
                                  virtual!

                                  good thing i'm drunk so i can laugh it off!

                                  tomorrow might not seem so funny, though.

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                                    • Linguist
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Apr 2004
                                      • 1706
                                      #10
                                      You can scan it, and send it in, takes 15 mins for them to activate it. That's less time than its gonna take you to bitch them out

                                      Or you can ask tech support to untar it?

                                      is it virtual or dedicated acct btw?

                                      Edit: I wouldn't even start bitching if its a virtual account. If I were them, I wouldn't want to give SSH access to just anyone either.
                                      Last edited by Linguist; 06-24-2004, 08:38 PM.
                                      315-310

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                                        • Illicit
                                          wtf ?
                                          • Dec 2003
                                          • 11895
                                          #11
                                          oh they are serious... they did the same thing to me...

                                          I was like, wtf, your not worried about who I am when you charge my credit card every month
                                          Insert Sig Here

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                                            • OFFBEAT
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 398
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Sjelefall
                                              Or you can ask tech support to untar it?

                                              is it virtual or dedicated acct btw?
                                              I realize I can ask them. But since when does anyone ask for SSH access verification. How convinient for them to not have to verify before they charge my credit card.

                                              DNS switch has started propagating throughout the net, and my sites are showing up with a empty "Directory Listing of /"

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                                                • Ash@phpFX
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                  • 4292
                                                  #13
                                                  it is a pain in the arse, but if its a vitual account i can understand where they are coming from, someone could easily fuck up a whole server and they would want to know exactly who it is

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                                                    • OFFBEAT
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                      • 398
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by ajpiii
                                                      oh they are serious... they did the same thing to me...

                                                      I was like, wtf, your not worried about who I am when you charge my credit card every month
                                                      Seriously??? This is fucking ridiculous!

                                                      I'm finding a new host immidiately.

                                                      What a waste of my time...

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                                                        • Linguist
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Apr 2004
                                                          • 1706
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by OFFBEAT
                                                          I realize I can ask them. But since when does anyone ask for SSH access verification. How convinient for them to not have to verify before they charge my credit card.

                                                          DNS switch has started propagating throughout the net, and my sites are showing up with a empty "Directory Listing of /"
                                                          *shrug* does it matter though? just scan it in, and send to one of the online support people. they'll activate it right away.. i really dont see whats a big deal
                                                          315-310

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                                                            • OFFBEAT
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                              • 398
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by asher
                                                              it is a pain in the arse, but if its a vitual account i can understand where they are coming from, someone could easily fuck up a whole server and they would want to know exactly who it is
                                                              THEY HAVE MY CREDIT CARD AND BILLING INFO!!

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                                                                • OFFBEAT
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                  • 398
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Sjelefall
                                                                  *shrug* does it matter though? just scan it in, and send to one of the online support people. they'll activate it right away.. i really dont see whats a big deal
                                                                  I don't have a scanner. And even if I did, I wouldn't simply because they didn't inform me of this BEFORE I signed up. I don't want them to have my driver's license.

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                                                                    • Linguist
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Apr 2004
                                                                      • 1706
                                                                      #18
                                                                      good luck with another host then
                                                                      315-310

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                                                                        • OFFBEAT
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                          • 398
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Sjelefall
                                                                          good luck with another host then
                                                                          Thanks. At least I'm not the only one...

                                                                          Anyway.. back to drinking..

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                                                                            • Serge Litehead
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                              • 5190
                                                                              #20
                                                                              consider yourself lucky as well as safe!
                                                                              i never give out ssh w/o prior seing ss#

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                                                                                • Spunky
                                                                                  I need a beer
                                                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                                                  • 133978
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Thank the cheater/spammers for making it more difficult.People are just tring to protect themselves

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                                                                                    • Nembrionic
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                      • 2424
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      I don't see what the fuss is about?
                                                                                      You're on a virtual account right?

                                                                                      It's quite normal for hosting companies to ask for faxes like this.

                                                                                      Would you like some numbfuck to fuck around on the same server you are one, and screw up without them knowing who it is?
                                                                                      Because that would mean your site would be fucked for some time.

                                                                                      Works both ways.

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                                                                                        • OFFBEAT
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                                          • 398
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by holograph
                                                                                          consider yourself lucky as well as safe!
                                                                                          i never give out ssh w/o prior seing ss#
                                                                                          sreiously? that's extreme.

                                                                                          remind me never to host with you.

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                                                                                            • quantum-x
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                                                              • 6863
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Sounds more than reasonable to me.

                                                                                              Seriously, any host that gives out SSH access to their boxes without clamped down security is fucking nuts.

                                                                                              Be happy that they DO ask you for it.
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                                                                                                • OFFBEAT
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                  • 398
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Nembrionic
                                                                                                  I don't see what the fuss is about?
                                                                                                  You're on a virtual account right?

                                                                                                  It's quite normal for hosting companies to ask for faxes like this.

                                                                                                  Would you like some numbfuck to fuck around on the same server you are one, and screw up without them knowing who it is?
                                                                                                  Because that would mean your site would be fucked for some time.

                                                                                                  Works both ways.
                                                                                                  Okay, I'll concede to that point. However, is this such an ongoing problem?

                                                                                                  This is the first time I've ever run into something like this. And I would've appreciated them telling me about SSH verifcation either BEFORE or AFTER in the signup confirmation email. I would've made proper plans before moving my sites over if I wasn't going to have a certain degree of control.

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                                                                                                    • Platinum/Lantern
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • May 2004
                                                                                                      • 290
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      It's official..
                                                                                                      people run to the boards about anything now...

                                                                                                      People have procedures in place for a reason..
                                                                                                      following protocol is just following protocol



                                                                                                      "I'm Platinum Lantern, and I approve this message"
                                                                                                      www.gallerytrafficservice.com/
                                                                                                      "When I pay for gallery spots, I want the best value, the best customer service and the best sites. Thats why I'll only use GTS from now on."
                                                                                                      Platinum Lantern

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                                                                                                        • fuzebox
                                                                                                          making it rain
                                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                                          • 22363
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          I thought it was pretty damn weird when they asked me... But it is a shared box and someone with shell access could do a lot of damage if they wanted.

                                                                                                          I just took a pic of my license and visa with my digital camera and emailed it over. Shrug.

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                                                                                                            • infecto
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                                              • 1697
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by OFFBEAT
                                                                                                              Okay, I'll concede to that point. However, is this such an ongoing problem?

                                                                                                              This is the first time I've ever run into something like this. And I would've appreciated them telling me about SSH verifcation either BEFORE or AFTER in the signup confirmation email. I would've made proper plans before moving my sites over if I wasn't going to have a certain degree of control.
                                                                                                              Doesn't matter if its an ongoing problem...its better to be safe then sorry. You never know when that one numbnut stumbles across something and ruin your day.

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                                                                                                                • Platinum/Lantern
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • May 2004
                                                                                                                  • 290
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by OFFBEAT
                                                                                                                  Okay, I'll concede to that point. However, is this such an ongoing problem?

                                                                                                                  This is the first time I've ever run into something like this. And I would've appreciated them telling me about SSH verifcation either BEFORE or AFTER in the signup confirmation email. I would've made proper plans before moving my sites over if I wasn't going to have a certain degree of control.
                                                                                                                  Bottomline...
                                                                                                                  Webair is a great host

                                                                                                                  They aren't trying to make you "go out of your way"
                                                                                                                  they aren't trying to "give you a hard time"
                                                                                                                  they simply are trying to follow guidelines

                                                                                                                  Faxing something is very easy...
                                                                                                                  The time spent in this thread, could have been spent driving to Kinko's or Blockbuster Video and using their fax machine...

                                                                                                                  just my million cents
                                                                                                                  www.gallerytrafficservice.com/
                                                                                                                  "When I pay for gallery spots, I want the best value, the best customer service and the best sites. Thats why I'll only use GTS from now on."
                                                                                                                  Platinum Lantern

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                                                                                                                    • Phoenix66
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                      • 823
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      What's the big deal with ssh access? When it's properly configurerd you can't even run "dir/ls" command in sections that doesn't belong you....
                                                                                                                      Adult Niche Traffic Exchange

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                                                                                                                        • JulianSosa
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                          • 3042
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by OFFBEAT
                                                                                                                          Are these guys for real? This is something I should've been told BEFORE I signed up and transfered my domains over to their servers.

                                                                                                                          Stupid.

                                                                                                                          I would just take a pic and email it over. Its not worth loosing traffic or having your site be down.

                                                                                                                          Webair is a great host.

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                                                                                                                            • OFFBEAT
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                              • 398
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Steve was kind enough to at least get my sites live by ungzip/untar my content until I get SSH access squared away in the morning.

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                                                                                                                                • JulianSosa
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 3042
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by OFFBEAT
                                                                                                                                  Steve was kind enough to at least get my sites live by ungzip/untar my content until I get SSH access squared away in the morning.
                                                                                                                                  All is good that ends well

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                                                                                                                                    • Turboface
                                                                                                                                      Back in Black
                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 9976
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Platinum/Lantern
                                                                                                                                      Bottomline...
                                                                                                                                      Webair is a great host
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                                                                                                                                        • Nembrionic
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 2424
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Phoenix66
                                                                                                                                          What's the big deal with ssh access? When it's properly configurerd you can't even run "dir/ls" command in sections that doesn't belong you....
                                                                                                                                          You'd be amazed about how many hosting companies DON'T have their things straight

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                                                                                                                                            • Nembrionic
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 2424
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by OFFBEAT
                                                                                                                                              Okay, I'll concede to that point. However, is this such an ongoing problem?

                                                                                                                                              This is the first time I've ever run into something like this. And I would've appreciated them telling me about SSH verifcation either BEFORE or AFTER in the signup confirmation email. I would've made proper plans before moving my sites over if I wasn't going to have a certain degree of control.
                                                                                                                                              Well...ongoing problem. Yes. People abuse their access for spam, or sneaking around on other peoples accounts.

                                                                                                                                              But even if it wasn't an ongoing problem: why make it possible in the first place?

                                                                                                                                              I mean...why does a dog lick it's balls? Just because it CAN.
                                                                                                                                              So there's always fuckers that'll fuck around just because they CAN. Sad but true.

                                                                                                                                              But you got the point already
                                                                                                                                              Last edited by Nembrionic; 06-24-2004, 09:28 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                • cjnet
                                                                                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                  • 281
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  :X

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                                                                                                                                                    • OFFBEAT
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 398
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Nembrionic
                                                                                                                                                      I mean...why does a dog lick it's balls? Just because it CAN.
                                                                                                                                                      So there's always fuckers that'll fuck around just because they CAN. Sad but true.

                                                                                                                                                      But you got the point already
                                                                                                                                                      Nice analogy..

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                                                                                                                                                        • Snake Doctor
                                                                                                                                                          I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 13449
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Not really a big deal unless you're trying to hide your true identity.

                                                                                                                                                          Just because they have your credit card and billing info doesn't mean anything. You could have faked that, stolen it, whatever, the same way scammers generate signups to sponsors with fake/stolen card numbers.

                                                                                                                                                          If that was the case then whoopie, they'd be out one month's hosting bill, no biggie.
                                                                                                                                                          But I can understand them wanting verification of who you are before you get shell access to a server that you have a virtual account on.

                                                                                                                                                          On another note, WTF are you doing with a virtual account anyways? Servers are cheap, get your own and then you can do whatever the fuck you want with the box, AND you don't have to worry about some other knucklehead with shell access fucking up your sites.

                                                                                                                                                          sig too big

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