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  • cluck
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    • Dec 2002
    • 5248

    #1

    Anabolic Steroids are fucking amazing

    Against my better judgement, and the judgement of many of you, I've been taking them for 2 days now. I gotta tell you, the gains in bulk are amazing. I mean I'm eating protein, working out and stuff but I've NEVER been able to put muscle on so quick like this before. I'm so skinny, I'm building muscle in places I didn't even know there was supposed to be!

    2 thumbs up!
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  • StarkReality
    Confirmed User
    • May 2004
    • 4444

    #2
    Maybe it helps bulding muscles, but I wouldn't ever touch this stuff...erectile dysfunction, damage to multiple organs, shrinking balls...you can ruin your whole life with this shit !

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    • Project-Shadow
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2003
      • 7340

      #3
      I think Steroids are fine in very short doses, but people who use it continuously suffer the consequences |erectile dysfunction, damage to multiple organs, shrinking balls| to name a few

      Might wanna try some creatine instead?

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      • Jizar II
        Confirmed User
        • May 2001
        • 1425

        #4
        results after 2 days usage! - talk about placebo effect!

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        • Phoenix
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          • Nov 2002
          • 35475

          #5
          dont take it for too long at a time


          you will eventually stop producing your own testosterone if you do

          take rests between cycles
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          • cluck
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2002
            • 5248

            #6
            Actually yeah it stops your natural production of testosterone pretty quick. I have a rough PCT planned out. It'll depend on whether I go for just 2 weeks or the whole month. With the stack I'm using, most reports don't show any sign of gyno for 2 weeks, so I may cut it off there then finish next month.
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            • Project-Shadow
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              • Feb 2003
              • 7340

              #7
              Well G/L with that.. tell us when you're balls stop working.

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              • cluck
                Confirmed User
                • Dec 2002
                • 5248

                #8
                Originally posted by Project-Shadow
                Well G/L with that.. tell us when you're balls stop working.
                Well they still produce semen, I know that
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                • strobi
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                  • Nov 2002
                  • 7383

                  #9
                  Originally posted by cluck
                  Well they still produce semen, I know that
                  for now!! Tomorrow --> OW SHIT WTF? WHATS THIS?

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                  • jm_247live
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 1536

                    #10
                    I'm interested in knowing what your taking to see such results in 2 days and is it oral or injectable also what dose there are only a few steroids that would have this effect this quickly.

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                    • hova
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                      • Jan 2002
                      • 22430

                      #11
                      I would never ever touch that shit............I'll just work out some more
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                      • cluck
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                        • Dec 2002
                        • 5248

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jm_247live
                        I'm interested in knowing what your taking to see such results in 2 days and is it oral or injectable also what dose there are only a few steroids that would have this effect this quickly.
                        I'm taking that relatively new M1T shit, the methylated 1-test. And some 4AD to combat the lethargy.

                        Another thing though is that I'm 120lbs and around 1% body fat if that. I haven't gotten big by any means but for the first time I'm actually seeing my muscles getting larger instead of just stronger.
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                        • EscortBiz
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                          • May 2002
                          • 19422

                          #13
                          No roid oral or injectable can give you muscle growth in 2 days.

                          Some can give you energy right away and so can test but muscle growth takes time and def more then 2 days.

                          Now if you feel a great pump that can be.

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                          • jm_247live
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                            • Feb 2004
                            • 1536

                            #14
                            ah I see cool keep it up you'll grow in no time

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                            • juicylinks
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Apr 2001
                              • 122992

                              #15
                              Cluck

                              What are you taking?

                              LMK

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                              • EscortBiz
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                                • May 2002
                                • 19422

                                #16
                                Originally posted by cluck
                                I'm taking that relatively new M1T shit, the methylated 1-test. And some 4AD to combat the lethargy.

                                Another thing though is that I'm 120lbs and around 1% body fat if that. I haven't gotten big by any means but for the first time I'm actually seeing my muscles getting larger instead of just stronger.
                                Ok M1T is a 100% legal supplement (until they ban it) its all oral and your blood presure should be checked because it def will have an effect on that, one thing you dont have to worry about is too much water retention.

                                But for now you can stop saying you use roids just say you use supplements because thats pretty much what your doing.

                                Keep on training heavy and eating right.

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                                • michel
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                                  • Mar 2002
                                  • 3420

                                  #17
                                  Steroids would be better if you could maintain the results after you finished using them. I see a lot guys in the gym that use it. You can see them grow fast, but you see them shrink even faster when they stop using it. A waiste of money and health in my opinion...

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                                  • adjektiv
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                                    • Jan 2003
                                    • 381

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Project-Shadow
                                    Well G/L with that.. tell us when you're balls stop working.
                                    Please stop. You will make him go into roid rage and destroy his own computer.

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                                    • juicylinks
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Apr 2001
                                      • 122992

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by cluck
                                      I'm taking that relatively new M1T shit, the methylated 1-test. And some 4AD to combat the lethargy.

                                      Another thing though is that I'm 120lbs and around 1% body fat if that. I haven't gotten big by any means but for the first time I'm actually seeing my muscles getting larger instead of just stronger.
                                      where did you get this? link? I want more info on this. I started hitting the gym again and dont want to use my old shit

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                                      • juicylinks
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Apr 2001
                                        • 122992

                                        #20
                                        Methyl 1-test is a very powerful compound and is not recommended for beginners. This is clearly a drug and should be thought of as such. The only reason this compound is legal is due to the fact that it was never scheduled as a steroid since it was never manufactured, although its chemical structure is very similar to oral Primobolan. Users of methyl 1-test should be on the lookout for increased liver values, high blood pressure, extreme lethargy and pumps, as well as decreased appetite. Methyl 1-test should definintely be stacked with 4AD to help counteract some of these sides and give you the benefits of testosterone supplementation. Users should get blood work done before and after cycles of this compound.

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                                        • EscortBiz
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                                          • May 2002
                                          • 19422

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by juicylinks
                                          where did you get this? link? I want more info on this. I started hitting the gym again and dont want to use my old shit
                                          bodybuilding.com has it

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                                          • EscortBiz
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                                            • May 2002
                                            • 19422

                                            #22
                                            I posted this a few days ago

                                            Something?s in bodybuilding are an illusion, I agree the cock doesn?t get smaller but when your whole body gets bigger your cock will look smaller.

                                            Its like a small waist will make you look wider and a tan will make you look cut up and the less hair the bigger you look.

                                            As far as roids go well I live in NY and like Jersey its popular here in the gym, I can easily say most guys taking it don?t get in any better shape, yes they all bloat and shit but they looked better without the fat face and bloated look.

                                            I did several cycles and thank god I had an open minded doctor who based on my blood results and regular test levels and age etc told me how much and what AMERICAN made roids to use. He didn?t get them for me but at least his advice and research and ongoing liver value tests etc. helped.

                                            I am done with cycles and because I didn?t do cycles that are d-bol or anadrol or other popular oral steroids that gains are mostly water I am able to keep those gains plus because I did a separate bulking and cutting cycle I am cut not just one big balloon.

                                            A few major problems I find with people taking roids.

                                            A) No research - they get all their info from the gym dealer, and guess what the dealer pushes whatever he gets a good deal on, most likely the following 3 Winny, D-bol, Sust 250 (you are guaranteed to outbreak and lose hair on this pros never use sust! for test)

                                            B) Steroids will help you grow more muscle but the idea of steroids is to give you more strength so you can lift more break more muscle tissue and grow, nothing replaces working out hard! In the movie "the unbelievable" Ronnie Coleman (current Mr. O.) says "everyone wants to be a bodybuilder but no one wants to life heavy ass weights!"

                                            C) Diet, to grow you need to eat, steroids or working out hard will mean little if you do not eat, you need to intake real protein not just shakes, real carbs lots of calories etc.

                                            D) Post cycle recovery is important, the fact is many dealers push something called "Novladex" anyone who does research knows this doesn?t do shit to lower estrogen levels or anything to recover from a cycle. Lots of drug became popular because dealers got a good deal on it and start pushing it, Clomid is what pros use and anyone who has a doctor who has no interest in bullshitting will tell you the same.

                                            E) Remember tons of roids being sold in gym are counterfeit, a big long island dealer was recently busted and over 50% of his shit was fake.

                                            My cycles where:

                                            Test Cyp.
                                            Deca
                                            (mixed in a single syringe it makes the injection less painful)

                                            When I cut all I used was Anavar aka Oxandrolone

                                            Always used clomid last 2 weeks of a cycle + 4 weeks after.

                                            Also took the vit. pack daily by ISS link below (still take that)

                                            And Milk Thistle

                                            I worked out hard way before I started taking any roids and anyone considering it should do the same.

                                            Also I came across a natural Diuretic that works wonders it?s called xpell, I lost about 2 inches on my waist in about 2 months. Diuretics is a known style of drug that reduces water retention in the body making you way more cut, the pill prescribed version is extremely dangerous but this natural stuff works wonders too.

                                            Here are some links for you to checkout


                                            Tom Platz interviews 6 pros about steroids
                                            http://store.yahoo.com/homegym/noname2.html

                                            The story about the long island drug busts recently
                                            http://www.newsday.com/news/local/l....story?coll=ny-

                                            If you order stuff online or even buy in a gym get them tested to find out what you are putting in your body.
                                            http://www.aegislabs.com

                                            ISS all in one Vit. pack, fish oil tablets etc. (its cheap too)
                                            http://www.issresearch.com/products/p_vitpak.html

                                            Also last night there was a show on fox about steroids (really overdone) but like one expert (not a juicer but a doctor) said "people use steroids because they work"
                                            http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,122961,00.html

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                                            • chodadog
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                                              • Apr 2002
                                              • 9736

                                              #23
                                              2 days? Hahaha. Yeah right, you dumbass.
                                              26 + 6 = 1

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                                              • Lonny
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jun 2003
                                                • 3539

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by hova
                                                I would never ever touch that shit............I'll just work out some more
                                                couldnt said it any better myself.

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                                                • juicylinks
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                  • 122992

                                                  #25
                                                  Good Post EB

                                                  I used to get my gear from this guy in England. It always came on time and such and the stuff was legit. I did the research also on the fakes and such.

                                                  I gotta try this m1T shit. Nice nice

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                                                  • doornx
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                    • 2531

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by cluck
                                                    I'm taking that relatively new M1T shit, the methylated 1-test. And some 4AD to combat the lethargy.

                                                    Another thing though is that I'm 120lbs and around 1% body fat if that. I haven't gotten big by any means but for the first time I'm actually seeing my muscles getting larger instead of just stronger.
                                                    1% body fat is impossible..5/6% is extremely low..
                                                    around 10% is best for working out...remember that you can't build muscles without a good % body fat..
                                                    Else your body will break down muscles to produce muscle tissue
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                                                    • Magnus
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                      • 1211

                                                      #27
                                                      Zits, dicky no worky, bitch tits, baldness, roid rage any friend I knew that did roids loved the short term and said it's not worth the long term. So enjoy yourself for now, but know when to say when.

                                                      And dont forget to work your legs..nothing worse than a pumped up upper body with birdy legs.
                                                      Magnus

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                                                      • cluck
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                        • 5248

                                                        #28
                                                        As always EB has some great info in a fitness thread.

                                                        Juicy if you're going to give M1T a try I've heard the underground labs brand is the best. You're going to want to stack it with 4AD as well to fight lethargy. Honestly though I haven't really experienced lethargy since taking it but I'm only 2 days in. I gave up coffee last week to boot but I also walk 2-3 miles a day and I haven't been since I started just because I've been busy.

                                                        As for chicken legs, my legs are usually disproportionately large compared to my upper body. Especially since I lost my license and I've been doing alot of walking around Jersey/NYC
                                                        Last edited by cluck; 06-23-2004, 06:34 AM.
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                                                        • natkejs
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                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                          • 1640

                                                          #29
                                                          interesting reading EscortBiz..

                                                          do you know anything about Naposim?
                                                          you mentioned taking Deca, I heard Naposim (pills) was supposed to have less side-effects ... I'm just curious.

                                                          I've read about them online, seems fairly safe, but who knows..

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                                                          • juicylinks
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                            • 122992

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by cluck
                                                            As always EB has some great info in a fitness thread.

                                                            Juicy if you're going to give M1T a try I've heard the underground labs brand is the best. You're going to want to stack it with 4AD as well to fight lethargy. Honestly though I haven't really experienced lethargy since taking it but I'm only 2 days in. I gave up coffee last week to boot but I also walk 2-3 miles a day and I haven't been since I started just because I've been busy.

                                                            As for chicken legs, my legs are usually disproportionately large compared to my upper body. Especially since I lost my license and I've been doing alot of walking around Jersey/NYC
                                                            Yeah i ordered some. Ill post results in a few weeks

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                                                            • prostock
                                                              On probation
                                                              • Jun 2002
                                                              • 4160

                                                              #31
                                                              any pics?

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                                                              • Meta Ridley
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                                                                • Sep 2003
                                                                • 3433

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by cluck
                                                                Against my better judgement, and the judgement of many of you, I've been taking them for 2 days now. I gotta tell you, the gains in bulk are amazing. I mean I'm eating protein, working out and stuff but I've NEVER been able to put muscle on so quick like this before. I'm so skinny, I'm building muscle in places I didn't even know there was supposed to be!

                                                                2 thumbs up!


                                                                Dude you are probably just bloating
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                                                                • C-Bass
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                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                  • 3153

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Long but good read EB!
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                                                                  • FlyingIguana
                                                                    aspiring banker
                                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                                    • 10870

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Project-Shadow
                                                                    I think Steroids are fine in very short doses, but people who use it continuously suffer the consequences |erectile dysfunction, damage to multiple organs, shrinking balls| to name a few

                                                                    Might wanna try some creatine instead?
                                                                    creatine can't compare, not even close...

                                                                    you have to cycle or else you're fucked.

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                                                                    • Pleasurepays
                                                                      BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                      • 11913

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by cluck
                                                                      Against my better judgement, and the judgement of many of you, I've been taking them for 2 days now. I gotta tell you, the gains in bulk are amazing. I mean I'm eating protein, working out and stuff but I've NEVER been able to put muscle on so quick like this before. I'm so skinny, I'm building muscle in places I didn't even know there was supposed to be!

                                                                      2 thumbs up!
                                                                      you're retarded... you can't gain noticeable muscle mass in 2 days. if you are this naive and ignorant you should not be playing with illegal drugs and destroying your body.


                                                                      good luck killing yourself... your almost there you fucking clown.
                                                                      Last edited by Pleasurepays; 06-23-2004, 07:13 AM.

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                                                                      • Diesel006
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                                                                        • Apr 2004
                                                                        • 109

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Hey Guys if you need reliable info on any steroids out there just invest your money in The Anabolic Refernce Manual. This is a very insightful book that tells you about counterfits, what to match with your cycle and street value. Its pretty expensive but well worht the money.

                                                                        Also go to your doctor and get him to monitor your liver base line enzymes, doing this will let you know when to get off the sauce and when to use clomid, and other drugs to bring your levels back to normal.

                                                                        As for the guy that has 1% body fat, you must be on crack, competitive bodybuilder have4-5% on stage. A healthy level is 8-10% out of comp. As for gains after two days, those are in your head, but are very affective in getting you to the gym and making you train harder.

                                                                        Somebody said stick to creatine coz its safer, you must be retarded, or obviously know little about the human body and body building. Creatine has now been linked to many problems in the body. The most serious being liver problems. Dont forget anything you take orally has to be purified by the liver and kidneys.

                                                                        Protein: excessive protein can cause kidney failure, you should take 2 grams of protein for every LEAN pound of body weight.

                                                                        Sorry about the rant, but i am just sick of people bad mouthing roids when they know nothing about them. Teachers do this all the time in school, b/c of the whole anti drug BS. However cycling Deca-Durabolin can be quite beneficial to the body.

                                                                        Feel free to insult me and write a response, but make sure you know what you are talking about first.

                                                                        If you need any advice on a good steroid cycle hit me upo and i will be glad to discuss your needs and make a cycle that is good for you.
                                                                        T
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                                                                        • stembolt
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                                                                          • May 2004
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          hi

                                                                          say gud bye to your gonadds

                                                                          crazy
                                                                          get a planned diet
                                                                          and exerise routine
                                                                          do it natural

                                                                          hahahahahahahahaha
                                                                          once upon a time i had something to put here!!!!

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                                                                          • C-Bass
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                                                                            • Apr 2003
                                                                            • 3153

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Diesel knows wut he's talking about...


                                                                            he might be ugly as fuck, but the guy is built like Tank!!


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                                                                            • Diesel006
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                                                                              • Apr 2004
                                                                              • 109

                                                                              #39
                                                                              say gud bye to your gonadds

                                                                              crazy
                                                                              get a planned diet
                                                                              and exerise routine
                                                                              do it natural

                                                                              True your nuts are affected, but as with anything if you dont abuse it the pros can far out weight the cons. While using a cycle, you use nolvadex to counteract estrogen from binding to sites, after your cycle you can use HCG and Clomid to kickstart your body into producint its own testosterone again. If you dont abuse test, you can make slow gains that you keep.
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                                                                              • FlyingIguana
                                                                                aspiring banker
                                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                                • 10870

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Diesel006
                                                                                Hey Guys if you need reliable info on any steroids out there just invest your money in The Anabolic Refernce Manual. This is a very insightful book that tells you about counterfits, what to match with your cycle and street value. Its pretty expensive but well worht the money.

                                                                                Also go to your doctor and get him to monitor your liver base line enzymes, doing this will let you know when to get off the sauce and when to use clomid, and other drugs to bring your levels back to normal.

                                                                                As for the guy that has 1% body fat, you must be on crack, competitive bodybuilder have4-5% on stage. A healthy level is 8-10% out of comp. As for gains after two days, those are in your head, but are very affective in getting you to the gym and making you train harder.

                                                                                Somebody said stick to creatine coz its safer, you must be retarded, or obviously know little about the human body and body building. Creatine has now been linked to many problems in the body. The most serious being liver problems. Dont forget anything you take orally has to be purified by the liver and kidneys.

                                                                                Protein: excessive protein can cause kidney failure, you should take 2 grams of protein for every LEAN pound of body weight.

                                                                                Sorry about the rant, but i am just sick of people bad mouthing roids when they know nothing about them. Teachers do this all the time in school, b/c of the whole anti drug BS. However cycling Deca-Durabolin can be quite beneficial to the body.

                                                                                Feel free to insult me and write a response, but make sure you know what you are talking about first.

                                                                                If you need any advice on a good steroid cycle hit me upo and i will be glad to discuss your needs and make a cycle that is good for you.
                                                                                T
                                                                                i don't believe creatine causes problems. obviously if you take it all the time without stopping it may but why would you? once you have it in the body it stays for a couple months. meaning you can take it a couple months then stop for a couple.

                                                                                hell, if you take too much vitamin c you can get sick

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                                                                                • Meta Ridley
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                                  • 3433

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Diesel006
                                                                                  Hey Guys if you need reliable info on any steroids out there just invest your money in The Anabolic Refernce Manual. This is a very insightful book that tells you about counterfits, what to match with your cycle and street value. Its pretty expensive but well worht the money.

                                                                                  Also go to your doctor and get him to monitor your liver base line enzymes, doing this will let you know when to get off the sauce and when to use clomid, and other drugs to bring your levels back to normal.

                                                                                  As for the guy that has 1% body fat, you must be on crack, competitive bodybuilder have4-5% on stage. A healthy level is 8-10% out of comp. As for gains after two days, those are in your head, but are very affective in getting you to the gym and making you train harder.

                                                                                  Somebody said stick to creatine coz its safer, you must be retarded, or obviously know little about the human body and body building. Creatine has now been linked to many problems in the body. The most serious being liver problems. Dont forget anything you take orally has to be purified by the liver and kidneys.

                                                                                  Protein: excessive protein can cause kidney failure, you should take 2 grams of protein for every LEAN pound of body weight.

                                                                                  Sorry about the rant, but i am just sick of people bad mouthing roids when they know nothing about them. Teachers do this all the time in school, b/c of the whole anti drug BS. However cycling Deca-Durabolin can be quite beneficial to the body.

                                                                                  Feel free to insult me and write a response, but make sure you know what you are talking about first.

                                                                                  If you need any advice on a good steroid cycle hit me upo and i will be glad to discuss your needs and make a cycle that is good for you.
                                                                                  T


                                                                                  So you are warning about protien but saying there is a roid cycle that is good for you??



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                                                                                  • Diesel006
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Apr 2004
                                                                                    • 109

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by FlyingIguana
                                                                                    i don't believe creatine causes problems. obviously if you take it all the time without stopping it may but why would you? once you have it in the body it stays for a couple months. meaning you can take it a couple months then stop for a couple.

                                                                                    hell, if you take too much vitamin c you can get sick
                                                                                    Excellent flyingiguanna now you are on to something, just use that logic with ROIDS
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                                                                                    • juicylinks
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                      • 122992

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      I am all natural



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                                                                                      • FlyingIguana
                                                                                        aspiring banker
                                                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                                                        • 10870

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Diesel006
                                                                                        say gud bye to your gonadds

                                                                                        crazy
                                                                                        get a planned diet
                                                                                        and exerise routine
                                                                                        do it natural

                                                                                        True your nuts are affected, but as with anything if you dont abuse it the pros can far out weight the cons. While using a cycle, you use nolvadex to counteract estrogen from binding to sites, after your cycle you can use HCG and Clomid to kickstart your body into producint its own testosterone again. If you dont abuse test, you can make slow gains that you keep.
                                                                                        if you're gonna subject your body to roids, you might as well go on some of the harder stuff. at least sustanon with maybe dbol for part of the cycle. there's people who go on deca, winstrol and shit like that and don't get the massive gains they were hoping for. imo go full out to gain mass(to a point) or don't bother.

                                                                                        but one thing is you better have your diet, sleep, routines and everything down 100% cold or else you're simply just fucking yourself by exposing your body to a fairly powerful drug and not getting the maximum benefit while exposing yourself to the risk of side effects.

                                                                                        i know one guy from high school who didn't research what he was taking and ended up having a heart attack in his early 20s. a wake up call to anyone taking roids without first learning about what the drugs can do to you.

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                                                                                        • FlyingIguana
                                                                                          aspiring banker
                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                          • 10870

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          only reason i won't touch roids is because i'm scared shitless of losing my hair lol

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                                                                                          • Pleasurepays
                                                                                            BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                                            • 11913

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by FlyingIguana
                                                                                            i don't believe creatine causes problems. obviously if you take it all the time without stopping it may but why would you? once you have it in the body it stays for a couple months. meaning you can take it a couple months then stop for a couple.

                                                                                            hell, if you take too much vitamin c you can get sick
                                                                                            bodybuilders often confuse "supplementation" by any normal definination of the word with the "more is better" attitude that most bodybuilders have that are putting their health at risk by overdoing everything and taking it to the extreme.

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                                                                                            • Sharky
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                                              • 4938

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Diesel006
                                                                                              say gud bye to your gonadds

                                                                                              crazy
                                                                                              get a planned diet
                                                                                              and exerise routine
                                                                                              do it natural

                                                                                              True your nuts are affected, but as with anything if you dont abuse it the pros can far out weight the cons. While using a cycle, you use nolvadex to counteract estrogen from binding to sites, after your cycle you can use HCG and Clomid to kickstart your body into producint its own testosterone again. If you dont abuse test, you can make slow gains that you keep.
                                                                                              Now, Isn't Clomid a female fertility drug?

                                                                                              lol.
                                                                                              I guess it would pump enough estrogen into you to get your testosterone production working again.
                                                                                              Sharky

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                                                                                              • FlyingIguana
                                                                                                aspiring banker
                                                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                                                • 10870

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                                                bodybuilders often confuse "supplementation" by any normal definination of the word with the "more is better" attitude that most bodybuilders have that are putting their health at risk by overdoing everything and taking it to the extreme.
                                                                                                well creatine isn't really something a bodybuilder cares about. the gh/insulin/roids is what they're concerned with in the world of supplementation. their creatine levels should be fairly high from a high protein diet, depending on what they eat.

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                                                                                                • s9ann0
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Sep 2001
                                                                                                  • 4873

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  hows it gonna work in 2 days ?
                                                                                                  you been smoking crack

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                                                                                                  • Pleasurepays
                                                                                                    BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                                    • 11913

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by FlyingIguana
                                                                                                    well creatine isn't really something a bodybuilder cares about. the gh/insulin/roids is what they're concerned with in the world of supplementation. their creatine levels should be fairly high from a high protein diet, depending on what they eat.
                                                                                                    i meant that if someone is saying "creatine causes problems" - it is causing problems in the idiots that are trying to take an excessive amounts - just like everything else.

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