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06-21-2004, 02:10 PM

At lunch this bright yellow mustang pulls up to the light next to a young guy in a fast looking car. The mustang looked like one of the cars out of "The Fast & Furious" movie. Completed tricked out. But I thought it was odd how the windows were completely limo level tinted out. Something didn't seem right.

So the mustang starts revving his engine loud as hell to get the young dude next to him into "let's race" mode and sure enough the kid floors it. Mustang sits there for a second then goes wailing after him with undercover blue and red lights and siren blasting away.

The kid had the most fucked up looked on his face when he pulled over and everyone was laughing there asses off in the other cars as they passed him.

How devious these cops are getting!

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06-21-2004, 02:11 PM

They have always been devious!

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06-21-2004, 02:13 PM

lol that's really fucked up
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06-21-2004, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by TheWildcard
lol that's really fucked up

Yeh it was and it scared the fuck out of me when his siren went off cause that came completely out of the blue.

That's a pretty fucked up way to nail people, but I guess it works cause now everyone that saw that is going to be thinking a cop could be in any type of car and will be more cautious.

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06-21-2004, 02:28 PM

Only in the USA ?

In Europe thats called entrapment and would never stand up in court.

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06-21-2004, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by imageman
Only in the USA ?

In Europe thats called entrapment and would never stand up in court.

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Why do you think that's entrapment? All he did was rev his engine. He didn't communicate with the guy in any other way. Its a good thing to nail these street racers even though it was a bit sly.

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06-21-2004, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by imageman
In Europe thats called entrapment

I was just thinking the same thing...
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06-21-2004, 02:43 PM

OWNED BIG TIME

Well, when you think about it, they already impersonate hookers and crack whores. So it really is not that far off from what they already do. Can you imagine all the ricers bragging to their friends "DUDE I RACED A COP!@# ... then got arrested"

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06-21-2004, 02:44 PM

Yup entrapment and illegal in a normal country.
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06-21-2004, 02:45 PM

Nice ownage!
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06-21-2004, 02:49 PM

Now on the other hand, anybody whos racing ricers should be locked up and anybody who drives riced out japanese plastic should join him
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06-21-2004, 02:50 PM

OMG that SUCKS!

Where in FL was this KRL?

Man, I need to be so fucking careful now... shit, I've been known to do a little street racing now and then - man thats really coy of the cops.
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06-21-2004, 03:03 PM

That's pretty damn funny.

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06-21-2004, 03:03 PM

LOL that sounds like something out of Super Troopers.

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06-21-2004, 03:05 PM

Now that's really provoked. It's like having a cop holding out a stash of drugs and when you go to buy it, you get nailed for possession.

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06-21-2004, 03:07 PM

Not entrapment. The police did not offer the man anything illegal.

Simply giving someone the opportunity to commit the crime is not the same as persuading him to commit the crime.

If the cop poses as a rich guy in a nice suit with an expensive watch,
and somebody trys to mug him, it's not entrapment.

If the cop poses as an underdressed woman,
and somebody trys to rape her, it's not entrapment.

If the cop poses as a wanker with a stupid car,
and somebody decides to drag race, it's not entrapment.

The cop cannot directly offer anything illegal.
It's not illegal to dress like a whore.
It's not illegal to rev your engine.

I hope they confiscate the vehicles;
noone should die so wiggers can impress eachother.

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06-21-2004, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by CamChicks
Not entrapment. The police did not offer the man anything illegal.

Simply giving someone the opportunity to commit the crime is not the same as persuading him to commit the crime.

If the cop poses as a rich guy in a nice suit with an expensive watch,
and somebody trys to mug him, it's not entrapment.

If the cop poses as an underdressed woman,
and somebody trys to rape her, it's not entrapment.

If the cop poses as a wanker with a stupid car,
and somebody decides to drag race, it's not entrapment.

The cop cannot directly offer anything illegal.
It's not illegal to dress like a whore.
It's not illegal to rev your engine.

I hope they confiscate the vehicles;
noone should die so wiggers can impress eachother.

LOL good points there.

I think its ridiculous when they have female cops posing as hookers.

That is a complete waste of manpower.

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06-21-2004, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by KRL
LOL good points there.

I think its ridiculous when they have female cops posing as hookers.

That is a complete waste of manpower.

I went 2 jail once for waving a guy over and telling him he just talked 2 a police woman
( decoy ), For interfering with a police officer. Funny as hell all those poor bastards in there, a lot of' em were married. They kept me for 9 hours and let me go with out charging me. My boss had at the time knew a captain on the police force.

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06-21-2004, 04:24 PM

entrapment?

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06-21-2004, 04:27 PM

Not sure about other states, but in CA I don't think you would even be obligated to pull over in that scenario.

The car has to be marked police on the door, otherwise it could be any jackass.

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06-21-2004, 04:27 PM

his defence for getting the ticket in court should be that he felt he needed to speed up to escape the other vehicle because he felt it was an act of road rage waiting to happen.. he'll get off too.. worked for me cept i used it for speeding on the freeway while an airplane was coming in to land haha

told the judge i thought the plane was about to crash and was speeding to get away from it

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06-21-2004, 04:35 PM

Don't know about FL, but here in San Diego the laws about road racing are getting really tough. Too many innocent people are dying because of another's stupidity.

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06-21-2004, 04:38 PM

that sort of happened to me when I was 18, but I got away from them coppers...
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06-21-2004, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by [Brian]
Not sure about other states, but in CA I don't think you would even be obligated to pull over in that scenario.

The car has to be marked police on the door, otherwise it could be any jackass.

I think you are wrong, I see un-marked cop cars all the time, they have the lights in the grill. Don't say police on them any where

Oh I California.

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06-21-2004, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by jimmyf
I think you are wrong, I see un-marked cop cars all the time, they have the lights in the grill. Don't say police on them any where

Oh I California.

Possibly.

I just remember seeing a documentary about some chick that got raped by a police impersonator and they said never pull over if the DOOR is unmarked, because Calif. law states it must say police on the door. (so you can see it when they exit from the car)

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06-21-2004, 04:44 PM

how is that not entrapment?

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06-21-2004, 04:45 PM

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06-21-2004, 04:47 PM

Entrapment, just like a cop posing as a ho.
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06-21-2004, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by TheWildcard
lol that's really fucked up

Yeah, some of the interrogation thecniques they use are fucked up too.
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06-21-2004, 04:55 PM

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06-21-2004, 05:00 PM

A mustang with lights and siren? I wouldn't of stopped, i would of slowed down and perhaps call 911 and tell them what's going on
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06-21-2004, 05:02 PM

Instead of enticing people to commit crimes they should be out solving ones already commited.
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06-21-2004, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by CamChicks

If the cop poses as a rich guy in a nice suit with an expensive watch,
and somebody trys to mug him, it's not entrapment.

no.. this is more like a cop dressing like a rich man, going to compton, walking up in front of someone and waving his rolex 3 inches from his face and waiting to see what happens..

As much as I hate racers.. the fact is he wouldn't have done it if some asshole wasn't up in his face next to him revving his engine.
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06-21-2004, 05:04 PM

I dated a police officer once, but I didn't know she was a cop because she looked like a prostitute
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06-21-2004, 05:04 PM

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Yeah, some of the interrogation thecniques they use are fucked up too.

Ya, like those black kids they coerced into saying they murdered that women in the park in the 80s, and then a couple of years ago some convicted murderer admitted to doing it and the DNA backed it up. Sorry I forgot all the details
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06-21-2004, 05:05 PM

Oh, it was the jogger in central park in 1989.
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06-21-2004, 05:06 PM

When it comes to street racing, I wait for the other guy to go first

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06-21-2004, 05:07 PM

They have all types of undercover vehicles.They have Camaros,stangs etc...you just never know what is going to pull you over

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06-21-2004, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by bhutocracy
no.. this is more like a cop dressing like a rich man, going to compton, walking up in front of someone and waving his rolex 3 inches from his face and waiting to see what happens..

But since it is not illegal to go to compton and show people your watch, this would not be entrapment either. Overwhelming temptation is not a defense by itself. A cop has to convince somebody to break the law for it to be considered entrapment.

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As much as I hate racers.. the fact is he wouldn't have done it if some asshole wasn't up in his face next to him revving his engine.

I doubt this was the first challenge this driver had made or met. Even if it was, I still have no sympathy. If you are willing to recklessly risk other peoples lives for no reason other than to satisfy your own ego, then you deserve to be pulled over, beaten severely, and put in jail for a very long time.

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06-21-2004, 05:37 PM

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Why do you think that's entrapment? All he did was rev his engine. He didn't communicate with the guy in any other way. Its a good thing to nail these street racers even though it was a bit sly.

I think it'd be entrapment myself. It's common knowledge that revving your engine signals you want to race - it's leading on the person to do an illegal act without any possible way of knowing it's a cop.

Though, police have always gone around finding drug dealers by asking to buy drugs, but the dealers have the chance to ask if they are officers of the law, and if so, they can react accordingly. Yes, that's a 'loophole' but otherwise it would be entrapment.

You can't lure someone to commit a crime; that's entrapment AFAIK. Am I wrong?

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06-21-2004, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by CamChicks
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I doubt this was the first challenge this driver had made or met. Even if it was, I still have no sympathy. If you are willing to recklessly risk other peoples lives for no reason other than to satisfy your own ego, then you deserve to be pulled over, beaten severely, and put in jail for a very long time.

You can't really say anyone's life was at risk other than both people(s) in the cars.

You could assume there are no sidewalks and no other cars behind, thus the only people at risk are the people in the cars - the cop who instigated (spelling) the other guy.

And you have to remember laws are in place to protect people from other people, and so if you're not endangering anyone who IS consenting to the possible danger, then the laws really don't apply. For example, have you ever J-walked? Why? Because there were no cars who could hit you, but if there were and you walked out front you'd be endangering the people in the cars (as well as yourself, but that would of been your own stupid decision ).

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06-21-2004, 05:50 PM

when people say a car looked like something from the fast and furious or "tricked out" that means it's a pos honda with a streetfighter type bodykit, stickers, and a wing, just asking to get pulled over. all the cop did was rev up. legally it's very different than saying, "hey dipshit, wanna race?". even if it technically was intrapment who gives a shit? a ricer got a speeding ticket, boo fucking hoo

for those that race.. always stay away from black mustangs and lt1's with big antennas on the back. cops like to race, but they also like to give tickets.

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06-21-2004, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by Nysus
Though, police have always gone around finding drug dealers by asking to buy drugs, but the dealers have the chance to ask if they are officers of the law, and if so, they can react accordingly. Yes, that's a 'loophole' but otherwise it would be entrapment.

This is an urban legend. Undercover cops do not have to reveal themselves if you ask.

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06-21-2004, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by Nysus
You can't really say anyone's life was at risk other than both people(s) in the cars.

You could assume there are no sidewalks and no other cars behind, thus the only people at risk are the people in the cars - the cop who instigated (spelling) the other guy.

But KRLs story included other cars and people laughing at the dumbass who got caught. In reality, if you are on a public street, racing is never just a danger to those involved; there is always some risk of another car pulling out or broke down with its lights off or some pedestrian crossing where they shouldn't. If you want to race, every major city has tracks and holds events. There I couldnt care less who dies.

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06-21-2004, 06:12 PM

Mustang drivers already know that a cop will pull them over for next to nothing, so most drivers of mustang don't intiate a race.

That guy was a totally fool
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06-21-2004, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by CamChicks
This is an urban legend. Undercover cops do not have to reveal themselves if you ask.

actually they do except for cases where their lives may be endangered by doing so ;)

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06-21-2004, 06:17 PM

yep. what a fucking double standard.
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06-21-2004, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by Global Dialers
actually they do except for cases where their lives may be endangered by doing so ;)

In Spain?

In America, all you have to do is watch 'Cops' to see 280lb male cops (surrounded by backup) flat out deny that they are cops to 110lb female hookers when asked directly. They didnt look in danger.
(no, TV is not my sole source of info)

Going undercover would never work otherwise. Every criminal transaction would include that question and the cops would never bust anyone.... But it's certainly in the police interests to perpetuate this myth and give the ignorant a false sense of security.

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06-21-2004, 06:29 PM

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Going undercover would never work otherwise. Every criminal transaction would include that question and the cops would never bust anyone

read my post again and tell me which part of it is relevant to the section of your post i quoted ;)

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06-21-2004, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by KRL
Why do you think that's entrapment? All he did was rev his engine. He didn't communicate with the guy in any other way. Its a good thing to nail these street racers even though it was a bit sly.

It is entrapment.. Entrapment is simply when a law enforcement official encourages you to commit a crime. Reving a motor is pretty encouraging to young man. He will beat it in court easilly.
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