Cannon EOS 6.1MP and sports an 400MM Promaster Lens

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  • KMR Stitch
    I am cool
    • Jul 2003
    • 14494

    #1

    Cannon EOS 6.1MP and sports an 400MM Promaster Lens

    Is this any good for taking Surfing Pictures?

    Anything better?
  • Shoplifter
    Richest man in Babylon
    • Jan 2002
    • 5879

    #2
    Originally posted by KMR Stitch
    Is this any good for taking Surfing Pictures?

    Anything better?
    You want to have one of the lenses with Image Stabilisation. I use the Canon 70-200L but you may want at least 300mm.

    With a long lens like that it is difficult to get steady and you will have to use a shutter speed reciprical to the lens length (ie 200mm - 1/200 second) to get a sharp shot. With the stabilisation
    you can cut that way down, or even shoot from a boat.
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    • rowan
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Mar 2002
      • 17393

      #3
      Originally posted by Shoplifter
      With a long lens like that it is difficult to get steady and you will have to use a shutter speed reciprical to the lens length (ie 200mm - 1/200 second) to get a sharp shot.
      I've seen mention before that wider lenses allow slower hand-held shots. Do you have any links to tables or a rough formula for this?

      I have a 12-24mm lens but so far I've been trying to shoot at 1/100 or 1/125 as a minimum just to be safe.

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      • Shoplifter
        Richest man in Babylon
        • Jan 2002
        • 5879

        #4
        Originally posted by rowan
        I've seen mention before that wider lenses allow slower hand-held shots. Do you have any links to tables or a rough formula for this?

        I have a 12-24mm lens but so far I've been trying to shoot at 1/100 or 1/125 as a minimum just to be safe.
        Is it the Sigma 12-24?

        I don't have any table links, I just use that as a rule of thumb. But with the IS lenses you can do much better, I can shoot handheld at 1/60 during regular daylight and get sharp shots.
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        • AaronM
          GFY Royality ;)
          • Oct 2001
          • 46917

          #5
          Originally posted by Shoplifter
          You want to have one of the lenses with Image Stabilisation. I use the Canon 70-200L but you may want at least 300mm.

          With a long lens like that it is difficult to get steady and you will have to use a shutter speed reciprical to the lens length (ie 200mm - 1/200 second) to get a sharp shot. With the stabilisation
          you can cut that way down, or even shoot from a boat.

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          • Shoplifter
            Richest man in Babylon
            • Jan 2002
            • 5879

            #6
            Aaron I am so curious what you shoot after seeing your work. Is it a Canon 10D?
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            • AaronM
              GFY Royality ;)
              • Oct 2001
              • 46917

              #7
              Originally posted by Shoplifter
              Aaron I am so curious what you shoot after seeing your work. Is it a Canon 10D?
              You wouldn't believe me if I told you.

              No, it's not a 10D although I keep telling myself that I am gonna buy one of those.

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              • Shoplifter
                Richest man in Babylon
                • Jan 2002
                • 5879

                #8
                Originally posted by AaronM
                You wouldn't believe me if I told you.

                No, it's not a 10D although I keep telling myself that I am gonna buy one of those.
                No I know it's skill and not the camera. One of the guys who shoots some of my favourite content only uses a Canon G5.

                This guy who posts at Dpreview only uses a 300D and his work is amazing:

                http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...essage=9151324
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                • rowan
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 17393

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Shoplifter
                  Is it the Sigma 12-24?
                  Yup. Widest non fisheye you can get for a Canon. I purchased it because I found the 1.6X crop factor on my 300D limiting, but I've since bought a film body so I get 12mm @full frame.



                  BTW those dpreview forum images (and the girl) are stunning.

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                  • AaronM
                    GFY Royality ;)
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 46917

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Shoplifter
                    No I know it's skill and not the camera. One of the guys who shoots some of my favourite content only uses a Canon G5.

                    Most of the pics that I post are shot with a G2.

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                    • Shoplifter
                      Richest man in Babylon
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 5879

                      #11
                      Originally posted by rowan
                      Yup. Widest non fisheye you can get for a Canon. I purchased it because I found the 1.6X crop factor on my 300D limiting, but I've since bought a film body so I get 12mm @full frame.

                      BTW those dpreview forum images (and the girl) are stunning.
                      I have the same lens and it is amazing for landscapes or buildings.



                      I've learned a lot from dpreview, hopefully some day I will work up the courage to actually shoot some girls, but I don't have a clue how to go down that road.
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                      • rowan
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Mar 2002
                        • 17393

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Shoplifter
                        I have the same lens and it is amazing for landscapes or buildings.
                        I am already a little frustrated at how flat the basic landscape images taken with this lens look. You really need something close to the camera to properly convey the magnitude of the visual data that you're trying to cram into the frame. With a 6MP digital shot it's going to be much harder to pick out detail from a more distant object.

                        Of course a close object with such a wide lens causes other problems like perspective distortion...

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                        • latinasojourn
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 3191

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Shoplifter
                          You want to have one of the lenses with Image Stabilisation. I use the Canon 70-200L but you may want at least 300mm.

                          With a long lens like that it is difficult to get steady and you will have to use a shutter speed reciprical to the lens length (ie 200mm - 1/200 second) to get a sharp shot. With the stabilisation
                          you can cut that way down, or even shoot from a boat.

                          what he said.

                          and depends on your camera body.

                          IMO nikon VR lenses are a little better because their VR lenses allow stabilization in 2 directions in active mode.

                          usually you will have plenty of light for surfing pix, so probably stabilization is not necessary for certain fast action bodies (nikon d1x, d1h, etc.)

                          a really good lens for this type of work if you have the avail light is sigma 50-500mm zoom. it is a little heavy, so use it with monopod.

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