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  • Bake
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2001
    • 5921

    #1

    Has Visa killed CCbill

    CCbill is turning into a sad joke for me stats are all over the place for programes that have been my main income for years. I have a feeling that things are going change and the rats are packing.
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  • vapewiz
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2002
    • 1530

    #2
    CCbill is our main processor and sales are the same as always and increasing.

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    • steve90
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2003
      • 2397

      #3
      CCbill is doing just fine for me

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      • FiReC
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        • Jan 2002
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        #4
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        • stev0
          Confirmed User
          • Aug 2003
          • 6801

          #5
          CCBill scrubbing is rediculous these days... if your sales are growing it's because you're working harder and pulling more traffic.

          Fact of the matter is that alot of valid cards are being declined, and it's because of the new visa chargeback regulations.

          Not just by CCBill though... alot of other processors are pretty bad too.

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          • foolio
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            • Nov 2002
            • 12366

            #6
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            • macker
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              • Jul 2003
              • 2161

              #7
              Originally posted by steve90
              CCbill is doing just fine for me

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              • DatingGold
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                • Feb 2003
                • 13185

                #8
                I *think* Ibill scrubs less
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                • body
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 5017

                  #9
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                  • shermo

                    #10
                    I'm thinking the opposite. I'm seeing kilelr ratios, record sales and tons of rebills. If this is the summer slowdown, I can only hope that it'll come to a crawl!

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                    • Kicker
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                      • Apr 2002
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                      #11
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                      • emmanuelle
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 3662

                        #12
                        That's the silliest thing I've read here today.
                        If someone fails the scrubbing, the site owner receives a decline notice. We get about3/week, which is totally insignificant.

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                        • Trax
                          [----------------------]
                          • Aug 2001
                          • 14486

                          #13
                          Originally posted by emmanuelle
                          That's the silliest thing I've read here today.
                          If someone fails the scrubbing, the site owner receives a decline notice. We get about3/week, which is totally insignificant.
                          its a lot when pushing 10 sales / week

                          jk

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                          • benc
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 788

                            #14
                            If Ibill had a good affiliate program like ccbill, I bet a lot of people would jump ship.
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                            • Doctor Dre
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jan 2001
                              • 51692

                              #15
                              Originally posted by stev0
                              CCBill scrubbing is rediculous these days... if your sales are growing it's because you're working harder and pulling more traffic.

                              Fact of the matter is that alot of valid cards are being declined, and it's because of the new visa chargeback regulations.

                              Not just by CCBill though... alot of other processors are pretty bad too.
                              7 of my CCs have been turned down on 2checkout ...
                              Originally posted by rayadp05
                              I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                              • TheSaint
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 991

                                #16
                                My stats are a little down because of the summer slowdown I guess (ok some days a LOT down) but I really don't see CCBill as the culprit. My decline rate is more or less constant.

                                Overall the summer is working out OK for me albeit nowhere near as blistering as February/March.

                                In my view its just 10,000 paysites being launched a day and too much free porn, Kaaza and all the newsgroups, etc.

                                But overall I'm happy with CCBill and still seeing a good conversion rate, but yeah, have to work harder and smarter every day and invent new content or it all get stale and dies.

                                Keep in mind CCBill looses free money with every decline. They aren't going to throw away sales for absolutely no reason.
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                                • emmanuelle
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 3662

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Trax
                                  its a lot when pushing 10 sales / week

                                  jk
                                  funny :-P

                                  you guys would be amazed at the volume we push. How else would we have an 11.5% rate through ccbill?

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                                  • andrej_NDC
                                    Registered User
                                    • May 2004
                                    • 7760

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by emmanuelle
                                    funny :-P

                                    you guys would be amazed at the volume we push. How else would we have an 11.5% rate through ccbill?
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                                    • Doctor Dre
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 51692

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by andrej_NDC
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                                      Originally posted by rayadp05
                                      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                      • Doctor Dre
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jan 2001
                                        • 51692

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by emmanuelle
                                        That's the silliest thing I've read here today.
                                        If someone fails the scrubbing, the site owner receives a decline notice. We get about3/week, which is totally insignificant.
                                        3 what ? scrubbed sales ?

                                        So many people I know got their card refused ... if you get 3 a week then you get probably 2-3 signups .

                                        I got a program that shows me scrubbed sales and its actually higher ammount then the one approved .
                                        Originally posted by rayadp05
                                        I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                        • emmanuelle
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Mar 2003
                                          • 3662

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                          3 what ? scrubbed sales ?

                                          So many people I know got their card refused ... if you get 3 a week then you get probably 2-3 signups .

                                          I got a program that shows me scrubbed sales and its actually higher ammount then the one approved .

                                          When you own a paysite, then your experiences will be more relevant

                                          We get about 3 declines overall/week, and I promise you that we do more than 2-3 signups

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                                          • eden69
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Nov 2002
                                            • 114

                                            #22
                                            I don't know about you guys but stats for all ccbill sites have been down for me for about three days. I've tried going through a few proxy servers, some work and some don't depending on where the proxy is hosted.

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                                            • FTVGirls
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 1052

                                              #23
                                              I'll give you a simple stat: 199 attempted signups yesterday with ccbill, 72 declines. Thats what I had for FTV. Hard scrubbing (1/3 of my signups!!!!) or a lot of people with stolen cards??

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                                              • Doctor Dre
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Jan 2001
                                                • 51692

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by emmanuelle
                                                When you own a paysite, then your experiences will be more relevant

                                                We get about 3 declines overall/week, and I promise you that we do more than 2-3 signups
                                                Well I wasnt talking about paysite traffic ...

                                                But for 350 $ of sales daily, 450 $ get scrubbed . Thats the stats I got .
                                                Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                • Doctor Dre
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 51692

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by FTVGirls
                                                  I'll give you a simple stat: 199 attempted signups yesterday with ccbill, 72 declines. Thats what I had for FTV. Hard scrubbing (1/3 of my signups!!!!) or a lot of people with stolen cards??
                                                  Exactly ... CC fraud exist but its so little . The guy scamming at the other line made the rules harder, not the cc scammers.
                                                  Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                  I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                  • rdunn404
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                    • 999

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by FTVGirls
                                                    I'll give you a simple stat: 199 attempted signups yesterday with ccbill, 72 declines. Thats what I had for FTV. Hard scrubbing (1/3 of my signups!!!!) or a lot of people with stolen cards??
                                                    Hmmmmmmm.

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                                                    • emmanuelle
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                      • 3662

                                                      #27
                                                      You might consider the source of your traffic.
                                                      Also, is your traffic going directly to ccbill, or does the surfer give his info to the sponsor, who then passes it on to ccbill via a back end script?
                                                      Last edited by emmanuelle; 06-20-2004, 10:22 AM.

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                                                      • Steve G
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Apr 2002
                                                        • 209

                                                        #28
                                                        Dude, there will be at least 40% declines. No matter what.
                                                        Most of the surfers are not familiar with purchasing anything online. So they forget to enter their info properly then or they just mistype their CC.

                                                        There is no way in hell you can see anything over 95% success rate. Its just not possible.
                                                        And if you say you are doing lots of sales and only get 3 declines per week then i say you are full of shit.

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                                                        • BigPinPin
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • May 2003
                                                          • 894

                                                          #29
                                                          people still use ccbill???

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                                                          • chupacabra
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                            • 3626

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Steve G
                                                            Dude, there will be at least 40% declines. No matter what.
                                                            Most of the surfers are not familiar with purchasing anything online. So they forget to enter their info properly then or they just mistype their CC.

                                                            There is no way in hell you can see anything over 95% success rate. Its just not possible.
                                                            And if you say you are doing lots of sales and only get 3 declines per week then i say you are full of shit.
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                                                            • HarlotCash Dyker
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Sep 2003
                                                              • 1828

                                                              #31
                                                              I am used to a few daily declines - Usually around 7%.
                                                              Last week my declines ran at very close to 50% - Never, have I seen a decline ratio like that and I have been going since 96.

                                                              My theory is ccbill have a ratio to keep to, and if the bigger guys go well over that ratio, they make it up by screwing the smaller guy - As I said - Just a theory.
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                                                              • garett
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                • 683

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by FTVGirls
                                                                I'll give you a simple stat: 199 attempted signups yesterday with ccbill, 72 declines. Thats what I had for FTV. Hard scrubbing (1/3 of my signups!!!!) or a lot of people with stolen cards??
                                                                That's insane. I wish affiliates could see the decline stats as well... I'd like to know how many potential sales I've had.

                                                                I'm getting a few refunds lately and my first ever ccbill chargeback last month.. which just floored me. I've never had any refunds or chargebacks since I started in November.. and then all of a sudden last month like 3 refunds and 1 chargeback. Knocked me off my chair.

                                                                I wonder if that's an indicator as to why they're scrubbing so hard now. Maybe they've had a lot of refunds and chargebacks.

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                                                                • doober
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                  • 6984

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by BigPinPin
                                                                  people still use ccbill???
                                                                  who are you using?

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                                                                  • Kimmykim
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                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                    • 16015

                                                                    #34
                                                                    The theory that any processor is scrubbing that much more to work on chargebacks doesn't hold water.

                                                                    If you don't do as many transactions or more every month versus the previous month, then your ratios will climb even if the number of cb's stays the same.

                                                                    I also would think that any processor would want to push as many transactions through as they could, since they lose money on declines, since they still pay a fee to get the authorization.

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                                                                    • BVF
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                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                      • 13975

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by emmanuelle
                                                                      That's the silliest thing I've read here today.
                                                                      If someone fails the scrubbing, the site owner receives a decline notice. We get about3/week, which is totally insignificant.
                                                                      There is no way in hell you're only getting three a week if you're doing even minimal sales. IMPOSSIBLE!

                                                                      I don't care how "good the traffic" is. It's fucking impossible. You can get more then three declines a week just on people who have one card declined and then whip out ANOTHER card. That's not including people with no money and from foreign countries.

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                                                                      • candyflip
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                                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                                        • 43074

                                                                        #36
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