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  • buddyjuf
    • Jul 2026
    #1

    let's talk about opening up a club

    Within 3 years, I am hoping to open up a club in Montreal

    as a clubber, it is very easy for me to see what is wrong with the clubs I go to.

    I want to open up a club with a GORGEOUS venue, waterfall walls, beautiful lighting, marble floors, and what not.

    does anybody have experience with clubs? or investing in some? I would love to chat and learn a bit about it, what it takes, how much money it takes, the mob, etc.

    let's talk here or on ICQ! 178340550
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    • Tala
      Fucked if I know
      • Dec 2002
      • 23368
      #2
      Sounds like an awesome venue, bdjuf, but your kinda club and mine are two TOTALLY different things.

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        • Spunky
          I need a beer
          • Jun 2002
          • 133978
          #3
          It takes deep pockets..like a million or 2 for starters

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            • chaze
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              • Aug 2002
              • 9774
              #4
              Originally posted by bdjuf
              Within 3 years, I am hoping to open up a club in Montreal

              as a clubber, it is very easy for me to see what is wrong with the clubs I go to.

              I want to open up a club with a GORGEOUS venue, waterfall walls, beautiful lighting, marble floors, and what not.

              does anybody have experience with clubs? or investing in some? I would love to chat and learn a bit about it, what it takes, how much money it takes, the mob, etc.

              let's talk here or on ICQ! 178340550
              We should start mirrored clubs one in Orange County and one there. With live telecasts between the two.

              I like nice clubs too.
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                • Fake Nick
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 7708
                  #5
                  opening a club is not a good idea

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                    • chowda
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                      • Jun 2003
                      • 9527
                      #6
                      mutliple partners, definate set theme and group needed. promote for some and see how many asses u can bring b4 opening something up. :D
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                        • eddie-executive
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                          • Apr 2003
                          • 2061
                          #7
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                            • fris
                              I have to go potty
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 55730
                              #8
                              Originally posted by bdjuf
                              Within 3 years, I am hoping to open up a club in Montreal

                              as a clubber, it is very easy for me to see what is wrong with the clubs I go to.

                              I want to open up a club with a GORGEOUS venue, waterfall walls, beautiful lighting, marble floors, and what not.

                              does anybody have experience with clubs? or investing in some? I would love to chat and learn a bit about it, what it takes, how much money it takes, the mob, etc.

                              let's talk here or on ICQ! 178340550
                              make sure you pay your gst or the tax man will be up your ass i know a bunch of clubs here have had to pay millions cause they tried to skip the short way out of liquor taxes

                              i would want to start with 4-5 million.
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                                • JSA Matt
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Aug 2003
                                  • 5464
                                  #9
                                  you better start saving that money instead of buying ugly shoes if you seriosly want to open a club some day...

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                                    • buddyjuf
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by fris
                                      make sure you pay your gst or the tax man will be up your ass i know a bunch of clubs here have had to pay millions cause they tried to skip the short way out of liquor taxes

                                      i would want to start with 4-5 million.
                                      where would that 4-5 million go?

                                      we're thinking getting 300k$ saved up, in cash, and get a loan for the rest or something

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                                        • buddyjuf
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Fake Nick
                                          opening a club is not a good idea
                                          why not?

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                                            • Pipecrew
                                              Master of Gfy.com
                                              • Feb 2002
                                              • 14888
                                              #12
                                              Every teenage idiots dream is to open up a club when they are older, You will grow out of it.. It's not a smart investment and not easy..

                                              It's a cash business, just like any cash business, your employees are one of your biggest liabilities.

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                                                • hydro
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                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                  • 4216
                                                  #13
                                                  There are a bunch of other businesses that have a much lower startup and have higher returns. Clubs tend to fall off after a while

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                                                    • buddyjuf
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by hydro
                                                      There are a bunch of other businesses that have a much lower startup and have higher returns. Clubs tend to fall off after a while
                                                      such as?

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                                                        • eddie-executive
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                          • 2061
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by bdjuf
                                                          why not?

                                                          1. underage drinking
                                                          2. drugs being sold
                                                          3. fights on the property
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                                                            • sweetums
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                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                              • 2534
                                                              #16
                                                              bdjuf,

                                                              Being local to Montreal for a decade, I've seen more then one "nice" club/restaurant come and be out of business within the year. Much of your success is going to be in how much you dump into the place, your location, the time of year you open, and what you do in terms of marketing -- it's very conceivable that you won't see a real return for 6 months to a year. At the very least, you'll likely need have that much on hand to float the place and push hard on advertising.

                                                              As well, if you're looking to open a club in Montreal then be prepared for the visit from the HA. Not an "if" usually, as much of a "when". If you've already got your relations set there though, then that's one big obstacle you can check off

                                                              Either way...best of luck!! A really nice bar in Montreal is something I could handle....
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                                                                • Tuna
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                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                  • 1307
                                                                  #17
                                                                  lots and lots of money. its not a good idea if you dont have money to burn.
                                                                  your better off doing raves if you want to do something like that.


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                                                                    • buddyjuf
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by sweetums
                                                                      bdjuf,

                                                                      Being local to Montreal for a decade, I've seen more then one "nice" club/restaurant come and be out of business within the year. Much of your success is going to be in how much you dump into the place, your location, the time of year you open, and what you do in terms of marketing -- it's very conceivable that you won't see a real return for 6 months to a year. At the very least, you'll likely need have that much on hand to float the place and push hard on advertising.

                                                                      As well, if you're looking to open a club in Montreal then be prepared for the visit from the HA. Not an "if" usually, as much of a "when". If you've already got your relations set there though, then that's one big obstacle you can check off

                                                                      Either way...best of luck!! A really nice bar in Montreal is something I could handle....
                                                                      I totally hear ya bro... alot to think about

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                                                                        • Sly
                                                                          Let's do some business!
                                                                          • Sep 2004
                                                                          • 31378
                                                                          #19
                                                                          HA = Hells Angels?

                                                                          How much control and power do they have? I thought Canada was a safe and pleasant country!
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                                                                            • buddyjuf
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Sly
                                                                              HA = Hells Angels?

                                                                              How much control and power do they have? I thought Canada was a safe and pleasant country!
                                                                              it's more of a civilized gang here... but they show their presence when they want to

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                                                                                • sweetums
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                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                  • 2534
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by bdjuf
                                                                                  I totally hear ya bro... alot to think about
                                                                                  Hey bdjuf....I'm not a bro but a "sis" What kinda guy would have a nick like "sweetums" I ask you? heheheh
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                                                                                    • Sly
                                                                                      Let's do some business!
                                                                                      • Sep 2004
                                                                                      • 31378
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      I don't think you should start something like that unless you have experience or you have a partner with experience. Another thing to remember, is just because a club may look "cool", doesn't mean its a success and profitable. There are many, many very busy restaurants and bars that go under simply because they can't make profit.

                                                                                      Busy & "cool" != success.
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                                                                                        • ricks
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                                                                                          • Oct 2004
                                                                                          • 924
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          most montreal club owners dream about making the money you do

                                                                                          as an investment it is poor, might be fun though

                                                                                          don't expect to make a profit though especially in a market like montreal full of arabs and hatians that infest your club without 2 nickels to scrape together to even buy drinks

                                                                                          miami, ny, la is where the club money is, the other markets are peanuts
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                                                                                            • sweetums
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                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                              • 2534
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Sly
                                                                                              HA = Hells Angels?

                                                                                              How much control and power do they have? I thought Canada was a safe and pleasant country!
                                                                                              Hey Sly -- the HA have different degrees of presence and power thru Canada. Montreal is one of their strongholds, but since the biker wars they've been trying to keep their business in their own realm. But every few years, we seem to get a rash of slayings.

                                                                                              However, their presence in the club scene in Montreal is pretty well known. They run the club drug scene and, eventually, they always want their claim their share and gain another space to run that business. Most every club owner I've talked to has had the "visit" at some point.
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                                                                                                • Tuna
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                                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                                  • 1307
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Seriously, if you want to open a club work in one first so you understand how they work. when i was a teenager i would go to them and think someday im gonna open my own. Then i worked six years for one of the largest Dance Club operators in NYC and i realized i would need a few million and a shitload of luck. I ended up producing raves.


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                                                                                                    • ricks
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Sly
                                                                                                      I thought Canada was a safe and pleasant country!
                                                                                                      canada is safe for the most part, montreal is not

                                                                                                      montreal is infested with arab and hatian immigrants

                                                                                                      basically if you can speak french the quebec government will let you live there because no real canadians want to speak the language and this is there only way to preserve it

                                                                                                      they come from war torn countries and most of them carry knives

                                                                                                      on any given weekend night there are dozens of fights that spill out to the street on crescent alone, most involve the arabs and there are many stabbings and shootings

                                                                                                      the crime rate in montreal is comparable to some of the worst areas in the us

                                                                                                      it is a great place to party still, but realize that it is very dangerous
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                                                                                                        • Pipecrew
                                                                                                          Master of Gfy.com
                                                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                                                          • 14888
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Sly
                                                                                                          HA = Hells Angels?

                                                                                                          How much control and power do they have? I thought Canada was a safe and pleasant country!

                                                                                                          It is, but the hells angel would cruise into Bdjuf's club, see some 100lb 20 year old kid as the owner, and make him sign over the deed to his land haha.

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                                                                                                            • pornguy
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                                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                                              • 62910
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              The club that is being built here by me is in the 5mil range, and that is with mexico prices.
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                                                                                                                • chowda
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                                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                  • 9527
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  maybe open a club would be like opening a paysite:

                                                                                                                  learn to build traffic first before starting the paysite.

                                                                                                                  promote promote promote.
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                                                                                                                    • sonofsam
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                                                                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                      • 18647
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Pipecrew
                                                                                                                      It is, but the hells angel would cruise into Bdjuf's club, see some 100lb 20 year old kid as the owner, and make him sign over the deed to his land haha.
                                                                                                                      It wouldn't make a difference if bdjuf had 20 Roid monkeys on staff... if they wanted you to do something you would have to do it..
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                                                                                                                        • seeric
                                                                                                                          ..........
                                                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                          • 41917
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by bdjuf
                                                                                                                          Within 3 years, I am hoping to open up a club in Montreal

                                                                                                                          as a clubber, it is very easy for me to see what is wrong with the clubs I go to.

                                                                                                                          I want to open up a club with a GORGEOUS venue, waterfall walls, beautiful lighting, marble floors, and what not.

                                                                                                                          does anybody have experience with clubs? or investing in some? I would love to chat and learn a bit about it, what it takes, how much money it takes, the mob, etc.

                                                                                                                          let's talk here or on ICQ! 178340550
                                                                                                                          lets do it. i am thinking of moving there already. i a\have already moved to brasil once to open one with successful results. i go in open the venue, teach the owners how to run it and leave with the agreement that i resident there ance or twice a month.

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                                                                                                                            • seeric
                                                                                                                              ..........
                                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                              • 41917
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by chowda
                                                                                                                              maybe open a club would be like opening a paysite:

                                                                                                                              learn to build traffic first before starting the paysite.

                                                                                                                              promote promote promote.

                                                                                                                              nothing like it.

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                                                                                                                                • the_wizz
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                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 1633
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Get one of the production companies (you know, the same people who pay Paulie Jr. and Mikey to goof off on camera) to help you develop, fund, and video your club. From beginning to end.
                                                                                                                                  Promote the Best

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                                                                                                                                    • Kevsh
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                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                                      • 8619
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by spunky
                                                                                                                                      It takes deep pockets..like a million or 2 for starters
                                                                                                                                      Agreed, the bars alone cost a fortune. If you use a high-tech system to regulate the amount of alcohol poured into each drink it can cost $1M right there. With a lot of foot traffic you'll make it back quickly, but obviously a heavy initial investment is required.

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                                                                                                                                        • xxxdesign-net
                                                                                                                                          My hips don't lie
                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 10129
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by ricks
                                                                                                                                          canada is safe for the most part, montreal is not

                                                                                                                                          montreal is infested with arab and hatian immigrants

                                                                                                                                          basically if you can speak french the quebec government will let you live there because no real canadians want to speak the language and this is there only way to preserve it

                                                                                                                                          they come from war torn countries and most of them carry knives

                                                                                                                                          on any given weekend night there are dozens of fights that spill out to the street on crescent alone, most involve the arabs and there are many stabbings and shootings

                                                                                                                                          the crime rate in montreal is comparable to some of the worst areas in the us

                                                                                                                                          it is a great place to party still, but realize that it is very dangerous
                                                                                                                                          LOL Can you be more clueless?? Montreal isnt more dangerous than TO and Vancouver... VERY few murders in Montreal.. Where do you get your facts? AlloPolice?

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                                                                                                                                            • xxxdesign-net
                                                                                                                                              My hips don't lie
                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 10129
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              and for crimes in general.. Montreal is safer than vancouver... http://www.city.toronto.on.ca/qualit...ife/safety.htm

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                                                                                                                                                • austinth
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                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 1770
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  u should partner with 1 1st to see its the lifestyle u want
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                                                                                                                                                    • rickholio
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                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                      • 1914
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                                                                                                                                      LOL Can you be more clueless?? Montreal isnt more dangerous than TO and Vancouver... VERY few murders in Montreal.. Where do you get your facts? AlloPolice?
                                                                                                                                                      Don't give him facts, they'll just confuse him.
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                                                                                                                                                        • xNetworx
                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking What
                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                          • 14445
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Find a handful of investors so after your club tanks (3 out of 4 do), you will still have made some $ but without all that risk.

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                                                                                                                                                            • BradM
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                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 3397
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Yep, then have a bunch of cu.nts come in and DESTROY the place in no time. Good idea dude.

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                                                                                                                                                                • KRL
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 31429
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Even the best clubs don't last long. Too trendy a biz. If you want to toss some bucks just for an ego kick, to have the VIP table permenantly reserved, and are in need of chicks, go for it.

                                                                                                                                                                  If you do it, be sure to use OPM, not of dime of your own money.

                                                                                                                                                                  Watch your bartenders and door people. If you are asleep at the switch, they will be all over your cash.

                                                                                                                                                                  Make sure you realize in most cities you're going to be dealing with your local organzid crime guys who are going to want their cut.

                                                                                                                                                                  Usually the cops will want a cut or hired as offduty security.

                                                                                                                                                                  Have fun.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Hornydog4cooter
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2005
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Very dangerous cash business to be in.......

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Babagirls
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          i remember that phase (of wanting to start my own nighclub)

                                                                                                                                                                          ahhhh.......to be young again

                                                                                                                                                                          (i even made floor plans and everything LOL)




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                                                                                                                                                                            • ricks
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2004
                                                                                                                                                                              • 924
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                                                                                                                                                              LOL Can you be more clueless?? Montreal isnt more dangerous than TO and Vancouver... VERY few murders in Montreal.. Where do you get your facts? AlloPolice?
                                                                                                                                                                              that is only because most crimes in montreal are not reported and even when they are the police will not investigate them

                                                                                                                                                                              hangout outside any bar area on a weekend night and watch all the fights and stabbings, i've partied everywhere and montreal is definately the most violent city, i still love it though dont get me wrong
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                                                                                                                                                                                • datatank
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 5471
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by bdjuf
                                                                                                                                                                                  Within 3 years, I am hoping to open up a club in Montreal

                                                                                                                                                                                  as a clubber, it is very easy for me to see what is wrong with the clubs I go to.

                                                                                                                                                                                  I want to open up a club with a GORGEOUS venue, waterfall walls, beautiful lighting, marble floors, and what not.

                                                                                                                                                                                  does anybody have experience with clubs? or investing in some? I would love to chat and learn a bit about it, what it takes, how much money it takes, the mob, etc.

                                                                                                                                                                                  let's talk here or on ICQ! 178340550
                                                                                                                                                                                  Did you guys get the show "The Club" in canada?
                                                                                                                                                                                  I would not wish owning a club on my worst enemy

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • seeric
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 41917
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      it can be done. yes, still today. and i agree 2mil min. you will need at least 80-250k to assume the liquor license. i am sure that canada is pretty similar to the us as in the desire to collet hefty fees for the right to sell liquor.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • skinnay
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                                                                                                                                                                                          damn, i thought you were talking about a club sandwich. im hungry
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • ozmatt
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by datatank
                                                                                                                                                                                              Did you guys get the show "The Club" in canada?
                                                                                                                                                                                              I would not wish owning a club on my worst enemy
                                                                                                                                                                                              was "the club" that show that was shot at the club in vegas, where extreme paychecks had a party for internext....a1r3k played as well??

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