Epass, what the hell? Is it true that you're dictating programs minimum payouts now?

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  • Adult Site Traffic
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2003
    • 5093
    #1

    Epass, what the hell? Is it true that you're dictating programs minimum payouts now?

    I have a program that I sent 354,000 hits of gallery traffic to (their hosted materials) and they converted like absolute shit (I have screenshots). Basically, I wanted to cut my ties with them totally and never promote them again, which I have and collect my 1:3160 ratio earnings of $40.00 and cut my losses on the $177.00 in traffic.

    They tell me that epass has a min threshold agreement of $100.00 payment.

    So I'm asking, why (when) does epass get to dictate what a company pays me as a minimum payout threshold?

    So EPASS says I haven't met the min to pay, so I should toss an additional $375.00 at this sponsor to hit payout?

    FWIW, I've never heard of epass setting a minimum, is this new?


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    • groark
      So Fucking Banned
      • Nov 2003
      • 1966
      #2
      Well then get a check

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        • Snake Doctor
          I'm Lenny2 Bitch
          • Mar 2001
          • 13449
          #3
          Most programs have a minimum of 50 or 100....the exception is ccbill programs where the minimum is 25.

          At most places there's a minimum purchase to use a credit card, etc etc

          Why not just ask for a check?
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            • Adult Site Traffic
              Confirmed User
              • Mar 2003
              • 5093
              #4
              Originally posted by groark
              Well then get a check
              It's an idea, but getting a check in Mexico is iffy and by the time they get here and back to the bank, sometimes they're already expired

              .

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                • Adult Site Traffic
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                  • Mar 2003
                  • 5093
                  #5
                  Originally posted by Lenny2
                  Most programs have a minimum of 50 or 100....the exception is ccbill programs where the minimum is 25.

                  At most places there's a minimum purchase to use a credit card, etc etc

                  Why not just ask for a check?
                  The point is that they say epass dictates the min payout, but I've never heard of that. I have epass sponsors paying me on $20.00

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                    • JFPdude
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                      • Jan 2002
                      • 4027
                      #6
                      You didn't do a good job hiding the name and ICQ number of the person you were chatting with.

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                        • hydro
                          Confirmed User
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 4216
                          #7
                          I don't think epass dictates anything, maybe your sponsor just wants you to send more traffic or simply just doesnt want to pay you

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                            • Adult Site Traffic
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                              • Mar 2003
                              • 5093
                              #8
                              Originally posted by JFPdude
                              You didn't do a good job hiding the name and ICQ number of the person you were chatting with.
                              Heh, it's early. I missed that. I fixed it now

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                                • Adult Site Traffic
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                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 5093
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by hydro
                                  I don't think epass dictates anything, maybe your sponsor just wants you to send more traffic or simply just doesnt want to pay you
                                  I think that I agree with you There are no epass set minimums that I ever heard of.

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                                    • XxXotic
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                                      • Jun 2002
                                      • 8500
                                      #10
                                      i just got paid less then 100$ to my epass from a program a few days ago...
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                                        • Rui
                                          web
                                          • Dec 2001
                                          • 9533
                                          #11
                                          tip you forgot to "erase" the "nickname" part...

                                          Anyway Topbucks are good people

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                                            • DarkJedi
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                                              • Feb 2001
                                              • 28301
                                              #12
                                              Your sponsor is bullshiting you.

                                              FlashCash sends out $20 payments thru epass.

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                                                • Project-Shadow
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                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                  • 7340
                                                  #13
                                                  They made a deal with epass, it's not epassporte's decision. At least thats how I read it.

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                                                    • Crypt
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                                                      • Apr 2004
                                                      • 2225
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic
                                                      I have a program that I sent 354,000 hits of gallery traffic to (their hosted materials) and they converted like absolute shit (I have screenshots). Basically, I wanted to cut my ties with them totally and never promote them again, which I have and collect my 1:3160 ratio earnings of $40.00 and cut my losses on the $177.00 in traffic.

                                                      They tell me that epass has a min threshold agreement of $100.00 payment.

                                                      So I'm asking, why (when) does epass get to dictate what a company pays me as a minimum payout threshold?

                                                      So EPASS says I haven't met the min to pay, so I should toss an additional $375.00 at this sponsor to hit payout?

                                                      FWIW, I've never heard of epass setting a minimum, is this new?

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                                                      Reach the minimum payout.
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                                                      Last edited by Crypt; 04-13-2005, 07:02 AM.

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                                                        • LauraLee
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                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                          • 3821
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Rui
                                                          tip you forgot to "erase" the "nickname" part...

                                                          Anyway Topbucks are good people
                                                          It wasn't topbucks, it was me
                                                          Adult Site Traffic is correct, he is owed $40 and change. He is also correct when mentioning that our epassporte minimum payout is $100.

                                                          What i am a little confused about is, why he is coming to the boards asking how many other programs are "dictated" by Epass as to what the minimum is to be set at? After a long conversation and having to clarify myself, i thought we were clear on things..

                                                          When i was told that he would no longer be sending traffic (ie: would not be hitting the $100 min.) i replied that a check would be sent.
                                                          This webmaster then told me that he would really "hate to see it get messy".
                                                          (i obviously knew he was referring to taking it to the boards)

                                                          I spoke with our accounting department and they replied that yes, he would be sent a check. When i relayed this information back to him this morning he replied with:

                                                          clickhit/TCG (09:33 AM) :
                                                          Ok.
                                                          That's fine. I will have more than $40 worth of fun with your screenshots on
                                                          GFY


                                                          At this point he then accuses me of lying about TCG and Epass agreeing on the minimum payouts. I can see where he is going with this one, so i clarify with:

                                                          Laura Lee (09:47 AM) :
                                                          Accounting has stated that the minimum payout is set for $100, I am confident in assuming this was agreed upon by BOTH parties when we began utilizing their service.
                                                          As a program owner (as you mention above) I would have also assumed that you would understand that, to have and run a successful business/company you need to have rules. But since you have the ?Look at me i can make threats and I am the exception to the rule" attitude, I guess those rules don?t apply to you??


                                                          Needless to say we went back and forth and wasted even more time (just like i am doing right now, haha).

                                                          I just don't get it, why do some people feel as though they don't have to follow the rules, yet everyone else should
                                                          LL

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                                                            • LauraLee
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                                                              • Sep 2003
                                                              • 3821
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                              Your sponsor is bullshiting you.

                                                              FlashCash sends out $20 payments thru epass.
                                                              DarkJedi,
                                                              I never said Epass can't/doesn't payout less than $100 minimum.
                                                              I said that we (Epass and TCG) decided OUR minimum payout would be $100 for epass.

                                                              Interestingly enough he never even gave us a chance to "make an exception for him". As the minute i mentioned check he threw threats at me about making a mess on the boards!
                                                              I could be off here, but in my book that is not the most conducive way to get people to help you. When we didn't bow down to his immature threats he then tried his best to twist my words. At one point he was even trying to say i told him to go out and spend $300+ so that he could make the minimum payout

                                                              Anyways, sorry everyones time was wasted on this one..
                                                              LL

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                                                                • Tuna
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                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                  • 1307
                                                                  #17
                                                                  TCGs minimum payout is $100. plain and simple. why would it be any different if paid thru epassporte?


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                                                                    • TDF
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                                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                                      • 27296
                                                                      #18
                                                                      much ado about nothing
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                                                                        • DarkJedi
                                                                          No Refunds Issued.
                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                          • 28301
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by LauraLee
                                                                          DarkJedi,
                                                                          I never said Epass can't/doesn't payout less than $100 minimum.
                                                                          I said that we (Epass and TCG) decided OUR minimum payout would be $100 for epass.
                                                                          Got confused by the story.
                                                                          Didn't intend to bash you, sorry.

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                                                                            • Jay
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                              • 1131
                                                                              #20
                                                                              There is a reason for the $100.00 min payout on ePassporte, because we are charged $2.00 for each transaction (payment) to webmasters. So to avoid making alot of small payments we set the min to $100.00 for ePassporte payments.

                                                                              I was the one who set the min payout since I handle webmaster payouts. LL and accounting are simply following the guidelines we have set up, for a reason. So you can blame me, not them.

                                                                              Please hit me up at 274-350-455

                                                                              Jay
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                                                                                • LauraLee
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                                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                                  • 3821
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Tuna
                                                                                  TCGs minimum payout is $100. plain and simple. why would it be any different if paid thru epassporte?
                                                                                  No, our minimum payout for Epassporte is $100
                                                                                  Our minimum payout for a check is $5

                                                                                  When he told me he was owed $40 and change and that he was not going to be able to make the minimum i said "ok, a check will be sent for the remainder of what is owed".

                                                                                  I guess a check was not what he wanted to hear because he immediately told me he would be disparaging me on the boards.

                                                                                  He was and is going to be paid.. he just blew up when he realized threating me would not get the rules bent for him.

                                                                                  LL

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                                                                                    • LauraLee
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                                                                                      • Sep 2003
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                                                      Got confused by the story.
                                                                                      Didn't intend to bash you, sorry.

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                                                                                        • FreeOnes
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                                                                                          • Jul 2001
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          whoehoe
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                                                                                            • BabeHunter
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                                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                                              • 4063
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by FreeOnes
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                                                                                              40 bucks drama on GFY

                                                                                              Yep

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                                                                                                • Rui
                                                                                                  web
                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                  • 9533
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by FreeOnes
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                                                                                                  There is a first one for everything

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                                                                                                    • DarkJedi
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                                                                                                      • Feb 2001
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by FreeOnes
                                                                                                      whoehoe
                                                                                                      40 bucks drama on GFY

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                                                                                                        • Boss Traffic Jim
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                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                                          • 1150
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by FreeOnes
                                                                                                          whoehoe
                                                                                                          40 bucks drama on GFY

                                                                                                          I agree, it's totally funny that this AdultSiteTreaafic guy would go public about 40 bucks and at the same time he is the one that either can't read and/or thinks rules should be altered to suit his needs

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                                                                                                            • dirtydesignz
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                                                              • 1815
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic
                                                                                                              I have a program that I sent 354,000 hits of gallery traffic to (their hosted materials) and they converted like absolute shit (I have screenshots). Basically, I wanted to cut my ties with them totally and never promote them again, which I have and collect my 1:3160 ratio earnings of $40.00 and cut my losses on the $177.00 in traffic.
                                                                                                              Sent 354k! Ummm, this is about a sponsor that obviously isn't converting. So a guy wants to get the $40 he earned so that he doesn't have to waste anymore time or money with this company.

                                                                                                              So what if it's $40... it shouldn't matter if it's $4 or $400. From reading the icq message it sure looks as though it is being said that they can't pay because they have a minimum set up with epass so they aren't allowed to pay.

                                                                                                              Alot of people sign up to sponsors that pay with epass for a specific purpose(like not wanting a check to be sent to Mexico). Come on...sending that much traffic and getting those kinds of results are reason enough to just pay and be done with this. So what if it costs you $2 to send an epass payment, big deal.
                                                                                                              LIZZIE

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                                                                                                                • dirtydesignz
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                                                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                  • 1815
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Afrin
                                                                                                                  I agree, it's totally funny that this AdultSiteTreaafic guy would go public about 40 bucks and at the same time he is the one that either can't read and/or thinks rules should be altered to suit his needs
                                                                                                                  Come on...sending that much traffic and getting those kinds of results are reason enough to just pay and be done with this.

                                                                                                                  But maybe there is a reason they have a $100 payout, maybe it's because alot of webmasters don't reach payout and never say a word because of 'rules'.
                                                                                                                  LIZZIE

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                                                                                                                    • skillfull
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                      • 4716
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by LauraLee
                                                                                                                      No, our minimum payout for Epassporte is $100
                                                                                                                      Our minimum payout for a check is $5

                                                                                                                      When he told me he was owed $40 and change and that he was not going to be able to make the minimum i said "ok, a check will be sent for the remainder of what is owed".

                                                                                                                      I guess a check was not what he wanted to hear because he immediately told me he would be disparaging me on the boards.

                                                                                                                      He was and is going to be paid.. he just blew up when he realized threating me would not get the rules bent for him.

                                                                                                                      LL

                                                                                                                      i guess you dont know shit about Mexico postal service

                                                                                                                      he will NEVER receive a check if you sent it by mail
                                                                                                                      i would be pissed too
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                                                                                                                        • LauraLee
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                                                                                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                          • 3821
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by skillfull
                                                                                                                          i guess you dont know shit about Mexico postal service

                                                                                                                          he will NEVER receive a check if you sent it by mail
                                                                                                                          i would be pissed too
                                                                                                                          To answer your question, no i didn't know "shit" about the Mexican postal service.
                                                                                                                          With that being said, all he had to do after i mentioned sending a check would have been to EXPLAIN to me the postal issue in his area
                                                                                                                          NOT
                                                                                                                          immediately threaten to disparage myself and tcg publicly. geez.

                                                                                                                          Guess what? Had he not handled himself in such a dispicable way, he would have been sent the monies owed via Epass. We always try to work with our Webmasters.

                                                                                                                          LL

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                                                                                                                            • Jay
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                                                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                              • 1131
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by dirtydesignz
                                                                                                                              Alot of people sign up to sponsors that pay with epass for a specific purpose(like not wanting a check to be sent to Mexico). Come on...sending that much traffic and getting those kinds of results are reason enough to just pay and be done with this. So what if it costs you $2 to send an epass payment, big deal.
                                                                                                                              We understand that, which is why we have that payment option. LL and our accounting dept are simply following the guidelines we have in place. Payouts to several hundred webmasters, weekly, at $2.00 each will add up, that is the ONLY reason we have a $100.00 min payout.

                                                                                                                              I posted my ICQ once, here is it again....274-350-455, AST contact me so we can resolve this $40.00 payment issue.

                                                                                                                              Jay
                                                                                                                              Jay <at> DateProfits.com | Skype: onemarketpro

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                                                                                                                                • FreeHugeMovies
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                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 14141
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  I guess AST has made his daily stupid drama post for today. All over 40 dollars. =]

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                                                                                                                                  You may request and receive payment via "Epassporte," however, payments for Epassporte are available only for payments of $100.00 or more in a given pay period.

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                                                                                                                                    • BradM
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                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 3397
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      AST that is so damn slimy.

                                                                                                                                      Props to LL for keeping it professional.

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                                                                                                                                        • justsexxx
                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 13723
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Read the terms next time. And when you had been nice, and explained your "mexico" situation, they might have paid you by epass. Hopefully they won't now.

                                                                                                                                          And when the postmans in Mexico don't know how to deliver a check, setup a US bankaccount, and have your checks send to that address. Problem solved.

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                                                                                                                                            • Twe Russ
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                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 3493
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              I would forget the damn 40.00 and other minor losses and move on with my life,
                                                                                                                                              you could have made that damn money back with the time you spent on here
                                                                                                                                              bitching about nothing, fucking pathetic.

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                                                                                                                                                • justsexxx
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                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 13723
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  postmen that is
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                                                                                                                                                    • Kimmykim
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                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                      • 16015
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      ePassporte doesn't have a required minimum in order to make the payouts. TCG, being one of the few sponsors that apparently does not deduct the transfer fee from the payout, doesn't want to make payments less than $100 so that they are not wasting money.

                                                                                                                                                      Laura Lee gets stuck in the middle and certainly doesn't deserve that.

                                                                                                                                                      AST, it seems that you're stirring shit out of nothing today, starting with the thread title.

                                                                                                                                                      I really think you owe Laura Lee an apology.

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                                                                                                                                                            • dirtydesignz
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                                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 1815
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by BradM
                                                                                                                                                              AST that is so damn slimy.

                                                                                                                                                              Props to LL for keeping it professional.
                                                                                                                                                              Slimy? He wants his money after sending 354 THOUSAND. 354,000 . 354k
                                                                                                                                                              LIZZIE

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                                                                                                                                                                • Rand
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 2663
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  I completely agree with Kimmy.

                                                                                                                                                                  Laura Lee - You should not have to defend yourself or your program on this matter.

                                                                                                                                                                  To clarify - Sponsors may choose to make payment policy as they see fit. ePassporte does not dicatate minimum payouts.

                                                                                                                                                                  As for AST - Your accusations, and definitly your thread title are wreckless and un-professional. Not only does it seem that you owe Laura Lee an apology, but it would also seem that you owe one to the members of GFY as well.
                                                                                                                                                                  -- Rand


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                                                                                                                                                                    • dirtydesignz
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                                      • 1815
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Rand
                                                                                                                                                                      I completely agree with Kimmy.

                                                                                                                                                                      Laura Lee - You should not have to defend yourself or your program on this matter.

                                                                                                                                                                      To clarify - Sponsors may choose to make payment policy as they see fit. ePassporte does not dicatate minimum payouts.

                                                                                                                                                                      As for AST - Your accusations, and definitly your thread title are wreckless and un-professional. Not only does it seem that you owe Laura Lee an apology, but it would also seem that you owe one to the members of GFY as well.
                                                                                                                                                                      He never mentioned Laura Lee at all. Apologize to the members of GFY? You've got to be kidding
                                                                                                                                                                      LIZZIE

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                                                                                                                                                                        • BlueQuartz
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                                                                                                                                                                          • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                          • 1971
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic
                                                                                                                                                                          I have a program that I sent 354,000 hits of gallery traffic to (their hosted materials) and they converted like absolute shit (I have screenshots). Basically, I wanted to cut my ties with them totally and never promote them again, which I have and collect my 1:3160 ratio earnings of $40.00 and cut my losses on the $177.00 in traffic.

                                                                                                                                                                          They tell me that epass has a min threshold agreement of $100.00 payment.

                                                                                                                                                                          So I'm asking, why (when) does epass get to dictate what a company pays me as a minimum payout threshold?

                                                                                                                                                                          So EPASS says I haven't met the min to pay, so I should toss an additional $375.00 at this sponsor to hit payout?

                                                                                                                                                                          FWIW, I've never heard of epass setting a minimum, is this new?


                                                                                                                                                                          you are one of the biggest bitches on this board mate - EVERY sponsor has a minimum payout - wether they wanted to pay you by cheque, euro, epassporte or fucking clam shells

                                                                                                                                                                          you should be worried about your shit traffic business instead of everyrone elses business

                                                                                                                                                                          you need 40$ so badly you need to start a thread and reply to everyone - heck I could have earnt another $40 in the time you have spent BITCHING

                                                                                                                                                                          you are, without doubt, a fucking stupid assclown.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • dirtydesignz
                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                                              • 1815
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by BlueQuartz
                                                                                                                                                                              you are one of the biggest bitches on this board mate - EVERY sponsor has a minimum payout - wether they wanted to pay you by cheque, euro, epassporte or fucking clam shells

                                                                                                                                                                              you should be worried about your shit traffic business instead of everyrone elses business

                                                                                                                                                                              you need 40$ so badly you need to start a thread and reply to everyone - heck I could have earnt another $40 in the time you have spent BITCHING

                                                                                                                                                                              you are, without doubt, a fucking stupid assclown.
                                                                                                                                                                              Coming from YOU, this is funny
                                                                                                                                                                              LIZZIE

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                                                                                                                                                                                • BlueQuartz
                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 1971
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by LauraLee
                                                                                                                                                                                  It wasn't topbucks, it was me
                                                                                                                                                                                  Adult Site Traffic is correct, he is owed $40 and change. He is also correct when mentioning that our epassporte minimum payout is $100.

                                                                                                                                                                                  What i am a little confused about is, why he is coming to the boards asking how many other programs are "dictated" by Epass as to what the minimum is to be set at? After a long conversation and having to clarify myself, i thought we were clear on things..

                                                                                                                                                                                  When i was told that he would no longer be sending traffic (ie: would not be hitting the $100 min.) i replied that a check would be sent.
                                                                                                                                                                                  This webmaster then told me that he would really "hate to see it get messy".
                                                                                                                                                                                  (i obviously knew he was referring to taking it to the boards)

                                                                                                                                                                                  I spoke with our accounting department and they replied that yes, he would be sent a check. When i relayed this information back to him this morning he replied with:

                                                                                                                                                                                  clickhit/TCG (09:33 AM) :
                                                                                                                                                                                  Ok.
                                                                                                                                                                                  That's fine. I will have more than $40 worth of fun with your screenshots on
                                                                                                                                                                                  GFY


                                                                                                                                                                                  At this point he then accuses me of lying about TCG and Epass agreeing on the minimum payouts. I can see where he is going with this one, so i clarify with:

                                                                                                                                                                                  Laura Lee (09:47 AM) :
                                                                                                                                                                                  Accounting has stated that the minimum payout is set for $100, I am confident in assuming this was agreed upon by BOTH parties when we began utilizing their service.
                                                                                                                                                                                  As a program owner (as you mention above) I would have also assumed that you would understand that, to have and run a successful business/company you need to have rules. But since you have the ?Look at me i can make threats and I am the exception to the rule" attitude, I guess those rules don?t apply to you??


                                                                                                                                                                                  Needless to say we went back and forth and wasted even more time (just like i am doing right now, haha).

                                                                                                                                                                                  I just don't get it, why do some people feel as though they don't have to follow the rules, yet everyone else should
                                                                                                                                                                                  LL


                                                                                                                                                                                  I didnt even get to this post

                                                                                                                                                                                  sorry you had to put up with this AST looser Laura

                                                                                                                                                                                  he does NOTHING but bitch this guy - he looks for any excuse at all to whinge like a little cry baby - last week the poor little thing got a flyer from a sponsor(yes it was a very serious situation LMAO)

                                                                                                                                                                                  even when you offere a cheque he still threatens to come post his crap and make it look like he is living in a third world country where people really do have something to whinge about.


                                                                                                                                                                                  what a FUCKWIT you are fool

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • BlueQuartz
                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 1971
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by dirtydesignz
                                                                                                                                                                                      Coming from YOU, this is funny
                                                                                                                                                                                      who the fuck are you bitch lol

                                                                                                                                                                                      AST's lacky?

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Kimmykim
                                                                                                                                                                                          bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 16015
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by dirtydesignz
                                                                                                                                                                                          He never mentioned Laura Lee at all. Apologize to the members of GFY? You've got to be kidding
                                                                                                                                                                                          Actually, Laura Lee was gracious enough to out herself when another program was accused of being the one in question. Anyone who hadn't seen the icq before it was blacked out would have figured it was Topbucks based on Rui's post.

                                                                                                                                                                                          So once again, Laura Lee deserves an apology, imo.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • BlueQuartz
                                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                              • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 1971
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by LauraLee
                                                                                                                                                                                              DarkJedi,
                                                                                                                                                                                              I never said Epass can't/doesn't payout less than $100 minimum.
                                                                                                                                                                                              I said that we (Epass and TCG) decided OUR minimum payout would be $100 for epass.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Interestingly enough he never even gave us a chance to "make an exception for him". As the minute i mentioned check he threw threats at me about making a mess on the boards!
                                                                                                                                                                                              I could be off here, but in my book that is not the most conducive way to get people to help you. When we didn't bow down to his immature threats he then tried his best to twist my words. At one point he was even trying to say i told him to go out and spend $300+ so that he could make the minimum payout

                                                                                                                                                                                              Anyways, sorry everyones time was wasted on this one..
                                                                                                                                                                                              LL

                                                                                                                                                                                              no need to aplogise Laura - this is how the fuckwit operates

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • GonZo
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 3180
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by LauraLee
                                                                                                                                                                                                  It wasn't topbucks, it was me
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Adult Site Traffic is correct, he is owed $40 and change. He is also correct when mentioning that our epassporte minimum payout is $100.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  What i am a little confused about is, why he is coming to the boards asking how many other programs are "dictated" by Epass as to what the minimum is to be set at? After a long conversation and having to clarify myself, i thought we were clear on things..

                                                                                                                                                                                                  When i was told that he would no longer be sending traffic (ie: would not be hitting the $100 min.) i replied that a check would be sent.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  This webmaster then told me that he would really "hate to see it get messy".
                                                                                                                                                                                                  (i obviously knew he was referring to taking it to the boards)

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I spoke with our accounting department and they replied that yes, he would be sent a check. When i relayed this information back to him this morning he replied with:

                                                                                                                                                                                                  clickhit/TCG (09:33 AM) :
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Ok.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  That's fine. I will have more than $40 worth of fun with your screenshots on
                                                                                                                                                                                                  GFY


                                                                                                                                                                                                  At this point he then accuses me of lying about TCG and Epass agreeing on the minimum payouts. I can see where he is going with this one, so i clarify with:

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Laura Lee (09:47 AM) :
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Accounting has stated that the minimum payout is set for $100, I am confident in assuming this was agreed upon by BOTH parties when we began utilizing their service.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  As a program owner (as you mention above) I would have also assumed that you would understand that, to have and run a successful business/company you need to have rules. But since you have the ?Look at me i can make threats and I am the exception to the rule" attitude, I guess those rules don?t apply to you??


                                                                                                                                                                                                  Needless to say we went back and forth and wasted even more time (just like i am doing right now, haha).

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I just don't get it, why do some people feel as though they don't have to follow the rules, yet everyone else should
                                                                                                                                                                                                  LL
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Imagine what it would be like to buy traffic from him...
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Assclown Bob Rice wants to BANG your credit card!
                                                                                                                                                                                                  "I am putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage."
                                                                                                                                                                                                  All the information above is my personal opinion.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Rich
                                                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 11486
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      READ THE TERMS, MORON.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I hope you don't think that TCG are the ones who look stupid in this thread.

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