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06-14-2004, 05:15 AM

If you had spent $12,000 on affiliate software that has major bugs, and was told that if you tell anyone about it the software company will take legal action against you, what would you do?

Would you?
A/ Think they were a great company, say nothing and be happy you paid $12,000 for a load of shit.

B/ Give all the details so other webmasters don't get taken for the same ride.

They have,
Request payment for software be wired to personal offshore bank account and not the company.

Ignored support issues for over 12 months.

Seeded database suddenly gets spammed (they had full access to database)

Told to change access codes due to dismissal of a member of staff that had access to all your login details.

Ignored your request for an address at which they can be contacted.

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06-14-2004, 05:17 AM

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06-14-2004, 05:20 AM

Originally posted by nufsaid
If you had spent $12,000 on affiliate software that has major bugs, and was told that if you tell anyone about it the software company will take legal action against you, what would you do?

Would you?
A/ Think they were a great company, say nothing and be happy you paid $12,000 for a load of shit.

B/ Give all the details so other webmasters don't get taken for the same ride.

They have,
Request payment for software be wired to personal offshore bank account and not the company.

Ignored support issues for over 12 months.

Seeded database suddenly gets spammed (they had full access to database)

Told to change access codes due to dismissal of a member of staff that had access to all your login details.

Ignored your request for an address at which they can be contacted.

I have not known of your full problem, tho i do know that all problems can be broken down into elements. And by using the four (4) W's And the H. you can over come each element.

Wish you all the best on your business.'
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06-14-2004, 05:21 AM

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06-14-2004, 05:24 AM

thats some dollar for some broken code
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06-14-2004, 05:24 AM

I'd send customer service over to have a talk with them.

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06-14-2004, 05:29 AM

Gee...I wonder what program it is that you're talking about.

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06-14-2004, 05:37 AM

Originally posted by KRL
I'd send customer service over to have a talk with them.
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06-14-2004, 06:17 AM

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I'd send customer service over to have a talk with them.

Why do you think we want the address, its not to send them a christmas card thats for sure

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06-14-2004, 06:19 AM

Originally posted by candyflip
Gee...I wonder what program it is that you're talking about.

12K for a software that's full of shit... Maybe you should've checked a few boards BEFORE buying it.

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06-14-2004, 06:19 AM

Nice sig.

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06-14-2004, 06:19 AM

Click Sig.

We are US based...totally legit..and would be happy to custom tailor a solution to fit your needs for MUCH LESS than $12000 with much more support.

BTW...IMO...if a company can't even respond to support requests, I highly doubt they'd take legal action against you. Perhaps you shold be the one taking legal action against them. Thats is a huge chunk of change to have the issues you are having.

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06-14-2004, 06:24 AM

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06-14-2004, 06:29 AM

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you down with the chaNtango crew ?

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06-14-2004, 06:30 AM

Originally posted by KraZ
12K for a software that's full of shit... Maybe you should've checked a few boards BEFORE buying it.

You should have told me that 12 months ago KraZ.

I did take a look at your new models...very nice

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06-14-2004, 06:31 AM

$12,000 for affiliate software and you are not having the problems resolved, plus having threats made against you?

Sounds to me like the company has something to hide.

My crew has coded a number of affiliate solutions for far less than the amount that you have paid and we stand by our products 100% to our customers.

Its a shame this happend to you, hopefully there is some recourse that you can take to recover your funds or have the provider do right by you.
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06-14-2004, 06:32 AM

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06-14-2004, 06:39 AM

Originally posted by taboo_gal
Click Sig.

We are US based...totally legit..and would be happy to custom tailor a solution to fit your needs for MUCH LESS than $12000 with much more support.

BTW...IMO...if a company can't even respond to support requests, I highly doubt they'd take legal action against you. Perhaps you shold be the one taking legal action against them. Thats is a huge chunk of change to have the issues you are having.

Best!

Thanks taboo_gal, we purchased Monolith after the company in question pulled the server (I should add they are hosting company also.....this line should have the words bad and shit added somewhere) and put us out of business.

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06-14-2004, 07:36 AM

so wtf, post the company....

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06-14-2004, 07:39 AM

i think his sig says it all, without him actually saying it

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06-14-2004, 07:41 AM

Originally posted by Triple 6
so wtf, post the company....

Lol Isn't it obvious?

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06-14-2004, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by nufsaid
Thanks taboo_gal, we purchased Monolith after the company in question pulled the server (I should add they are hosting company also.....this line should have the words bad and shit added somewhere) and put us out of business.

Anytime...hate hearing about your situation. Just know there are plenty of good ones here to help you out when and if you need it.
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06-14-2004, 11:56 AM

Bump for webmasters that may have been thinking about purchasing v3 of this shitware.

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06-14-2004, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by nufsaid
Bump for webmasters that may have been thinking about purchasing v3 of this shitware.

I promoted a solid program that was using the MPA software. Anyways, after about 3 weeks worth of sending traffic, i said fuck it and I will NEVER use a sponsor that uses their software?

Why? - I was converting 1:3000, but before when I was sending traffic through Epoch itself, I was converting 1:500 - Go figure.

The site was good, the content was good, I know I was sending sales, and they just weren't being tracked/recorded properly. Now I say fuck it - and I'm glad you are making a campaign against them.

BTW, I've had the privilege to beta test Monolith, and its pretty decent, it definitely tracks sales as it should, and thats all I can ask.
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06-14-2004, 01:32 PM

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06-14-2004, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by nufsaid
Why do you think we want the address, its not to send them a christmas card thats for sure

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06-14-2004, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by abyss_al
Registrant:
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202 N Curry Street
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Domain Name: MANSIONPRODUCTIONS.COM
Created on: 31-DEC-98
Expires on: 31-DEC-05
Last Updated on: 29-OCT-03

Administrative, Technical Contact:
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Mansion Productions
202 N Curry Street
Suite 100
Nevada, NV 89703
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Contact ICANN, that whois info is not correct.

There is no Nevada, Nv.

89703 is Carson City

Makes you think twice about using companies who use bogus whois info... makes you wonder what they have to hide.

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FAX: (775) 725-7825
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FAX: (775) 725-7825
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Customer Support: [email protected]
Webmaster: [email protected]
Employment: [email protected]

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06-14-2004, 01:59 PM

^thats crazy...i thought netsol.com was pretty accurate...just trying to help..

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06-14-2004, 02:06 PM

My affiliate program cost $150. I think you overpaid.
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06-14-2004, 02:10 PM

Yeah, lots of stuff based on that address...

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06-14-2004, 02:12 PM

I don't know anything about MPA2/3 but I would have to highly recommend NATS

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06-14-2004, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by abyss_al
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Created on: 31-DEC-98
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Thanks, unfortunately 202 N Curry Street
Suite 100 is a PO Box address that just fronts offshore company.

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06-14-2004, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by nufsaid
Thanks, unfortunately 202 N Curry Street
Suite 100 is a PO Box address that just fronts offshore company.

from what i know..they're located in LA... i know some people who have met with them for lunch numerous times

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06-14-2004, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by Biggy2
I promoted a solid program that was using the MPA software. Anyways, after about 3 weeks worth of sending traffic, i said fuck it and I will NEVER use a sponsor that uses their software?

Why? - I was converting 1:3000, but before when I was sending traffic through Epoch itself, I was converting 1:500 - Go figure.

The site was good, the content was good, I know I was sending sales, and they just weren't being tracked/recorded properly. Now I say fuck it - and I'm glad you are making a campaign against them.

BTW, I've had the privilege to beta test Monolith, and its pretty decent, it definitely tracks sales as it should, and thats all I can ask.

Hi Biggy2
We are 90% set up with Monolith and all looks good. Monolith

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06-14-2004, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by abyss_al
from what i know..they're located in LA... i know some people who have met with them for lunch numerous times

Cool, I have some boys in LA, they don't talk much but get things done.

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06-14-2004, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by TurboTrucker
My affiliate program cost $150. I think you overpaid.

Hi TurboTrucker, $150 or $12,000 is not the real problem, its the fact it screwed our business which is worth more to us than $12,000.

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06-14-2004, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by nufsaid
Cool, I have some boys in LA, they don't talk much but get things done.

we all have those... you have to... how else can one 'collect'

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06-14-2004, 04:43 PM

Anyone know the legalities of USA company diverting monies to personal offshore bank account? Is there a box on your tax return form which says 'please include all funds that you are keeping offshore' ???? Or maybe they have shave option on that also.

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06-14-2004, 04:49 PM

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06-14-2004, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by nufsaid
If you had spent $12,000 on affiliate software that has major bugs, and was told that if you tell anyone about it the software company will take legal action against you, what would you do?

Would you?
A/ Think they were a great company, say nothing and be happy you paid $12,000 for a load of shit.

B/ Give all the details so other webmasters don't get taken for the same ride.

They have,
Request payment for software be wired to personal offshore bank account and not the company.

Ignored support issues for over 12 months.

Seeded database suddenly gets spammed (they had full access to database)

Told to change access codes due to dismissal of a member of staff that had access to all your login details.

Ignored your request for an address at which they can be contacted.

Thanks - will never use them or any program that has their script installed.

Totally unprofesional.
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06-14-2004, 06:06 PM

What is your icq nuffsaid? I have some questions about your sites...

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06-14-2004, 06:17 PM

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06-14-2004, 06:52 PM

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06-14-2004, 07:07 PM

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I'd send customer service over to have a talk with them.

The guy on the end looks dangerous

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06-14-2004, 07:20 PM

Mick / ?nufsaid?,

Mansion was always ready to help you to make the most of the program you paid for. You just didn?t do the basic work people have to do to make any system work, then you threatened lawsuits, now you are here posting slander. If you worked half as hard on your business as you do threatening to call out the lawyers, you would be rich already. You simply owe an apology to the people whose money you wasted in the adult business ? not a new story to those on this board.

For those webmaster who are hardworking professionals, the MPA3 program is a solid new product that will bring webmasters and affiliates more cash for their efforts. We expect all of our users to upgrade to MPA3. We listened and heard webmaster concerns on this board and elsewhere, so the MPA3 will meet the highest standards of business honesty, are shown by our integration of the new program with Clicktruth verification. Mansion was the first to make affordable cascading publicly available to all affiliate programs, and we are still the best. The fact is, if your affiliate program is using the MPA3, you will get more signups and make more money, and with Clicktruth, you will get all the facts about your stats.

So many lost dreams end up here with frustration spread around wherever they seem fit. Jealousy is a dangerous downfall.

Anyways, Mick, I am sorry that your business plan didn?t work out for you and that your dream about fame and fortune in the adult industry ended before it started. This is usually what happens to incompetent people.

It is not the first time I have seen "companies" come out with a dream, only to fall flat on their face when they fail.

This industry is better without you.

Good luck in your future ventures.

PS. Please come down and visit. We reside in sunny California (from where we do business as well as in Nevada) as well as and you can find all the contact info you need on our website. We enjoy company with sincere and serious webmasters who can bring something to the table.

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06-15-2004, 04:15 PM

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What is your icq nuffsaid? I have some questions about your sites...

Hi VegasSEGirl.
My ICQ 154934972.

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06-15-2004, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by Oystein
Mick / ?nufsaid?,

Mansion was always ready to help you to make the most of the program you paid for. You just didn?t do the basic work people have to do to make any system work, then you threatened lawsuits, now you are here posting slander. If you worked half as hard on your business as you do threatening to call out the lawyers, you would be rich already. You simply owe an apology to the people whose money you wasted in the adult business ? not a new story to those on this board.

For those webmaster who are hardworking professionals, the MPA3 program is a solid new product that will bring webmasters and affiliates more cash for their efforts. We expect all of our users to upgrade to MPA3. We listened and heard webmaster concerns on this board and elsewhere, so the MPA3 will meet the highest standards of business honesty, are shown by our integration of the new program with Clicktruth verification. Mansion was the first to make affordable cascading publicly available to all affiliate programs, and we are still the best. The fact is, if your affiliate program is using the MPA3, you will get more signups and make more money, and with Clicktruth, you will get all the facts about your stats.

So many lost dreams end up here with frustration spread around wherever they seem fit. Jealousy is a dangerous downfall.

Anyways, Mick, I am sorry that your business plan didn?t work out for you and that your dream about fame and fortune in the adult industry ended before it started. This is usually what happens to incompetent people.

It is not the first time I have seen "companies" come out with a dream, only to fall flat on their face when they fail.

This industry is better without you.

Good luck in your future ventures.

PS. Please come down and visit. We reside in sunny California (from where we do business as well as in Nevada) as well as and you can find all the contact info you need on our website. We enjoy company with sincere and serious webmasters who can bring something to the table.

Sincerely,
Oystein Wright

+1 310 822 2844 office
+1 310 871 5202 cell

Be sure to contact me with any business questions and I will be more than happy to answer them all.

Just goes to show how this guy thinks.

When we take your company Oystein I'll see if I can get you a job, must be able to find some use for smug twat.

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06-16-2004, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by Oystein
Mick / ?nufsaid?,

Mansion was always ready to help you to make the most of the program you paid for. You just didn?t do the basic work people have to do to make any system work, then you threatened lawsuits, now you are here posting slander. If you worked half as hard on your business as you do threatening to call out the lawyers, you would be rich already. You simply owe an apology to the people whose money you wasted in the adult business ? not a new story to those on this board.

For those webmaster who are hardworking professionals, the MPA3 program is a solid new product that will bring webmasters and affiliates more cash for their efforts. We expect all of our users to upgrade to MPA3. We listened and heard webmaster concerns on this board and elsewhere, so the MPA3 will meet the highest standards of business honesty, are shown by our integration of the new program with Clicktruth verification. Mansion was the first to make affordable cascading publicly available to all affiliate programs, and we are still the best. The fact is, if your affiliate program is using the MPA3, you will get more signups and make more money, and with Clicktruth, you will get all the facts about your stats.

So many lost dreams end up here with frustration spread around wherever they seem fit. Jealousy is a dangerous downfall.

Anyways, Mick, I am sorry that your business plan didn?t work out for you and that your dream about fame and fortune in the adult industry ended before it started. This is usually what happens to incompetent people.

It is not the first time I have seen "companies" come out with a dream, only to fall flat on their face when they fail.

This industry is better without you.

Good luck in your future ventures.

PS. Please come down and visit. We reside in sunny California (from where we do business as well as in Nevada) as well as and you can find all the contact info you need on our website. We enjoy company with sincere and serious webmasters who can bring something to the table.

Sincerely,
Oystein Wright

+1 310 822 2844 office
+1 310 871 5202 cell

Be sure to contact me with any business questions and I will be more than happy to answer them all.

Your address is not on your website. Post your addess so we can come see you, lets see if your as smug face to face.

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Jedimaster

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06-16-2004, 10:15 AM

If you had spent $12,000 on affiliate software that has major bugs, and was told that if you tell anyone about it the software company will take legal action against you, what would you do?

OH PLEASE,,,DO THESE MORONS RELIZE THAT BY TAKING LEGAL ACTION AGAINST YOU WOULD CREATE A HUGE AMOUT OF PUBLICITY FOR THIER CRAPPY PRODUCTS??
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pornstar2pac

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06-16-2004, 10:19 AM

Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do
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