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Originally Posted by charly
Just had a very intersting chat with a guy on ICQ who is shooting some very nice sets exclusive and was shocked to learn what he earns a set.
Over the course of 3 months we sell a solo girls set 10 times at $35 to $40, go back 3 months and a good set will sell another 5 times, go back another 6 months and the set will sell another 5 times.
20 sales over a year on a set at $35, these are average figures, $700 split 50/50 the shooter gets $350, still owns the set and could place it with other brokers becasue I doubt if I have all the business on the Internet. Plus he might like to sell it to magazines.
This guy is shooting sets $150 a set and he's good. Only problem is he's scared I will pay him the same money.
On Lesbian and Hardcore the figures are a lot higher.
The "Exclusive is the only way" brigade will have you believe that anything non exclusive is flooded on the market. Yet they pay a lot less than it's worth if it was sold non exclusive and flooding the market.
To flood a set on the Internet and it's 1 million feeder sites into 200,000 paysites would be a phenomenal job and mean we would have to sell a set 100 times minimum with every buyer having the right to give it to 1,000 affiliates.
Truth is these guys pay squat, in the hope the producer does not realise one of the reasons the buyer is buying is the way he will make proper money.
We broker for one guy who is with 5 other people, bet he makes more than any of the custom shooters. He also sells to magazines.
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I think, Paul, you are thinking one way about "flooding" the market and that is members areas -
Many webmasters buying content nowadays also want that content for fhg's and and content packs for partners to promote their sites.
Take one set sold to (say) weg cash, who put that set 1) into their members area. 2) on a fhg which is going to be used by 3-4 thousand partners and 3) zip that same set as a content pack and that is used by another 3-4 thousand partners on tgp submits, mini site, avs and general free site marketing, then you get the other side of the "flooding" coin.
Take only one large programme using that set and that set has been seen by millions very quickly - Take 2, 3, 4, large programmes using that set, and that set is beyond saturation. 20 webmasters with the same set? I can here the members saying whoot when it is advertised in the members area as a new set... Where is the cancel button...?
It is not as easy to retain members now - Photographers must not only know the niche they are shooting for, but the micro aspects of each general niche. and, as the net gets more and more populated with adult sites daily, webmasters making cash (with genuine sites that is, not the upsell, cross sell, spam the fucking member to death when he cancels type of site) are mainly shooting their own or sorting custom shoots purely and simply because they are giving their members something unique, something targetted, and something to stay a month longer for.
Well - of course, many may disagree - But my way of doing things costs me less in the long run, and I know I get more rebills than programmes many times bigger than mine. So I will continue this road!
BTW - I do like your work very much -