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  • biskoppen
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2003
    • 5809
    #1

    CCBILL scrubbing or just how sales are?

    My stats with one sponsor today (1 sale) :



    The same sponsor 3 days ago (15 sales) :



    Thats a difference in almost 900%

    My traffic sources are the same...

    I don't know? .. I don't see these major curves with any other system thats all I know...

    Everytime I've tried to make a test signup myself it have worked fine....
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    • Gasper
      #2
      Quit while you still can dude

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        • doober
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2003
          • 6984
          #3

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            • Biggy2
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2002
              • 1821
              #4
              biskoppen - hit me up on ICQ..

              i'm with you today:

              1:2296 - when i'm normally 1:500.

              3 days ago I was 1:528.

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                • beemk
                  CLICK HERE
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 20829
                  #5
                  my stats are kicking ass today as usual:

                  I host with Vacares

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                    • Anna_O
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 5773
                      #6
                      2 damn refunds today


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                        • joshuawk
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 1092
                          #7
                          im doing higher ccbill sales today than usual
                          i love GW

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                            • beemk
                              CLICK HERE
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 20829
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Anna_O
                              2 damn refunds today
                              i dont think ccbill is at blame for any refunds. if a customer doesnt like the site and wants a refund they have to give it to them, if not they would have too many chargebacks.
                              I host with Vacares

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                                • Martin
                                  "Assassins"
                                  • Dec 2001
                                  • 17274
                                  #9
                                  Naw CCBill sales have been in the dumper for me too.....

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                                    • Anna_O
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 5773
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by beemk
                                      i dont think ccbill is at blame for any refunds. if a customer doesnt like the site and wants a refund they have to give it to them, if not they would have too many chargebacks.
                                      True, not really blaming them either... But it's been months since we've had a refund, and now two on the same day. It's only 30 bucks, but I hate seeing those damn red numbers


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                                        • beemk
                                          CLICK HERE
                                          • Jan 2002
                                          • 20829
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Anna_O
                                          True, not really blaming them either... But it's been months since we've had a refund, and now two on the same day. It's only 30 bucks, but I hate seeing those damn red numbers
                                          oh ok, im with you though, my refund rate is under 1% but i still hate to see them.
                                          I host with Vacares

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                                            • Sosa
                                              In Tushy Land
                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 40149
                                              #12
                                              I'm down today after 2 kickass days with ccbill.

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                                                • porncargo
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                  • 223
                                                  #13
                                                  ccbill has sucked for me the whole week.
                                                  i'm to lazy to have a sig
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                                                    • corvette
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                      • 7880
                                                      #14
                                                      My recommendation, as it always has been, is that if you suspect that something is not working correctly; test it with a test signup?
                                                      If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

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                                                        • Theo
                                                          HAL 9000
                                                          • May 2001
                                                          • 34515
                                                          #15
                                                          you can use the family's shared CC to do tests.


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                                                            • xxxdesign-net
                                                              My hips don't lie
                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                              • 10129
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by corvett
                                                              My recommendation, as it always has been, is that if you suspect that something is not working correctly; test it with a test signup?
                                                              Hey Corvet... I was 0 in 3787 with a sponsor... I ask for a test signup... I received an email about 7h ago.. saying everything is fine ... yet.. I check my stats and there's still 0 sales... !??

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                                                                • doober
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                  • 6984
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                                                  Hey Corvet... I was 0 in 3787 with a sponsor... I ask for a test signup... I received an email about 7h ago.. saying everything is fine ... yet.. I check my stats and there's still 0 sales... !??
                                                                  everything is fine

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                                                                    • corvette
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                      • 7880
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                                                      Hey Corvet... I was 0 in 3787 with a sponsor... I ask for a test signup... I received an email about 7h ago.. saying everything is fine ... yet.. I check my stats and there's still 0 sales... !??
                                                                      i apologize, please allow me to clarify, I was referring to a 'live' test signup, should have made that more clear?

                                                                      Rather than an internal troubleshooting test signup, which seems to be what you are referring to, and those do not show up in the stats, I meant a live test signup, where you pull out your own credit card and imitate the complete customer experience...

                                                                      I suggest that you try that
                                                                      If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

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                                                                        • corvette
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                          • 7880
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by doober
                                                                          everything is fine
                                                                          doober, i am simply suggesting that if you think that something is wrong, troubleshoot the entire process..

                                                                          Perhaps you don?t see where I am coming from. For instance, in the past 2 weeks, troubleshooting was able to discover that an incredible, immediate and consistent traffic decrease was due to a SE traffic source being unknowingly replaced with TGP traffic.

                                                                          In another case a few days ago, we were able to discover that the reason an affiliates ratios were so poor. It was due to them not sending traffic to the paysite, but directly to the affiliates site that he had been referred by?

                                                                          Those were 2 recent examples off of the top of my head

                                                                          With all due respect, please do not expect a reply from me, as I am leaving to the airport in a minute.

                                                                          Have a good weekend
                                                                          If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

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                                                                            • SoundMan
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                              • 3471
                                                                              #20
                                                                              blame it on free porn..

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                                                                                • elric
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                  • 296
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by corvett
                                                                                  My recommendation, as it always has been, is that if you suspect that something is not working correctly; test it with a test signup?
                                                                                  Hey Corvett-

                                                                                  The CCBill admin still allows sponsors to temporarily "deactivate" an affiliate in such a way that during the "deactivation" the affiliate does not get credited for any signups, right?

                                                                                  That would explain long periods without any signups.

                                                                                  I remember there was a thread in January where you said you were going to look into removing this feature since it can be used to defraud webmasters.

                                                                                  What ever happened with that?

                                                                                  We never heard back from you.

                                                                                  P.S.- I have also noticed very strange signup patterns this week - MUCH worse than usual. Has CCBill made it even easier to shave signups than before?
                                                                                  <--- I have never worked with this program.

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                                                                                    • elric
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                      • 296
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by corvett

                                                                                      With all due respect, please do not expect a reply from me, as I am leaving to the airport in a minute.

                                                                                      Have a good weekend [/B]
                                                                                      I didn't see this before I posted.

                                                                                      Don't worry, I will subscribe to this thread and bump it if necessary...

                                                                                      You have a good weekend too
                                                                                      <--- I have never worked with this program.

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                                                                                        • Ray@TastyDollars
                                                                                          www.TastyDollars.com
                                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                                          • 6797
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          The wrost ive seen in a looooooooooooooooog time. In fact its so damn bad that I lost my top affilate. Must be summer slowdown ;)

                                                                                          Check your "form hits", something is definatly up with that. I got this bad feeling that alot of surfers/countries cant access CC forms.

                                                                                          Ray

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                                                                                            • Bansheelinks
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                                              • 6023
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by corvett
                                                                                              My recommendation, as it always has been, is that if you suspect that something is not working correctly; test it with a test signup?
                                                                                              what good will that do? its called scrubbing and denials.........and if some webmaster with GOOD CREDIT gets refused on their card and posts it, you never answer them anyways.........you guys are simply trying to meet a standard level of CB's to avoid fines so you turn up the scrub..........we're not stupid

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                                                                                                • Rictor
                                                                                                  Old Timer
                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                  • 12208
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by elric
                                                                                                  Hey Corvett-

                                                                                                  The CCBill admin still allows sponsors to temporarily "deactivate" an affiliate in such a way that during the "deactivation" the affiliate does not get credited for any signups, right?

                                                                                                  That would explain long periods without any signups.

                                                                                                  I remember there was a thread in January where you said you were going to look into removing this feature since it can be used to defraud webmasters.

                                                                                                  What ever happened with that?

                                                                                                  We never heard back from you.

                                                                                                  P.S.- I have also noticed very strange signup patterns this week - MUCH worse than usual. Has CCBill made it even easier to shave signups than before?
                                                                                                  Do you wear a tinfoil hat?

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                                                                                                    • doober
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                                      • 6984
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Rictor
                                                                                                      Do you wear a tinfoil hat?
                                                                                                      this dude is way off his rocker

                                                                                                      lol

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                                                                                                        • xxxdesign-net
                                                                                                          My hips don't lie
                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                                          • 10129
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Ray
                                                                                                          The wrost ive seen in a looooooooooooooooog time. In fact its so damn bad that I lost my top affilate. Must be summer slowdown ;)

                                                                                                          Check your "form hits", something is definatly up with that. I got this bad feeling that alot of surfers/countries cant access CC forms.

                                                                                                          Ray
                                                                                                          Hey Ray.. how did you get an account with CCBill? Do you have a partner living in the US ?

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                                                                                                            • BradM
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                                                                              • 3397
                                                                                                              #28





                                                                                                              LOL j/k. My site uses ccbill and no problems that I have seen.

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                                                                                                                • jimmyf
                                                                                                                  OU812
                                                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                  • 12651
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by elric
                                                                                                                  Hey Corvett-

                                                                                                                  The CCBill admin still allows sponsors to temporarily "deactivate" an affiliate in such a way that during the "deactivation" the affiliate does not get credited for any signups, right?

                                                                                                                  That would explain long periods without any signups.

                                                                                                                  I remember there was a thread in January where you said you were going to look into removing this feature since it can be used to defraud webmasters.

                                                                                                                  What ever happened with that?

                                                                                                                  We never heard back from you.

                                                                                                                  P.S.- I have also noticed very strange signup patterns this week - MUCH worse than usual. Has CCBill made it even easier to shave signups than before?
                                                                                                                  I wasn't aware that a sponsor could do this. That's fucked big time


                                                                                                                  Oh i see someone refered about your tin foil hat.
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                                                                                                                    • Nickless
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                      • 1955
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by jimmyf
                                                                                                                      I wasn't aware that a sponsor could do this. That's fucked big time


                                                                                                                      Oh i see someone refered about your tin foil hat.
                                                                                                                      They can also change the signup page code anytime they want, or use a cron job to do it automatically/at random, but since affiliates can set up a spider to check the signup pages at say every hour or so for changes, the ccbill suspension settings is a way more elegant solution

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                                                                                                                        • riosluts
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                          • 5250
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by elric
                                                                                                                          Hey Corvett-

                                                                                                                          The CCBill admin still allows sponsors to temporarily "deactivate" an affiliate in such a way that during the "deactivation" the affiliate does not get credited for any signups, right?

                                                                                                                          That would explain long periods without any signups.

                                                                                                                          I remember there was a thread in January where you said you were going to look into removing this feature since it can be used to defraud webmasters.

                                                                                                                          What ever happened with that?

                                                                                                                          We never heard back from you.

                                                                                                                          P.S.- I have also noticed very strange signup patterns this week - MUCH worse than usual. Has CCBill made it even easier to shave signups than before?
                                                                                                                          WOuld the affiliate know that they are being deactivated?

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                                                                                                                            • wvuatl
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • May 2004
                                                                                                                              • 604
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              lot of people had off today... from Regan... maybe that ??
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                                                                                                                                • ColetteX
                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 539
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by corvett
                                                                                                                                  My recommendation, as it always has been, is that if you suspect that something is not working correctly; test it with a test signup?
                                                                                                                                  I usually see quite a few signups right after I do a test... i think it wakes it up or something... i hate it when i go 6 hours with no signups and then I test and get 2 within 3 minutes of the test...

                                                                                                                                  makes me wish i was sitting at the computer doing tests instead of sleeping or doing errands

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                                                                                                                                    • biskoppen
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 5809
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by wvuatl
                                                                                                                                      lot of people had off today... from Regan... maybe that ??
                                                                                                                                      The traffic would just be lower then ..

                                                                                                                                      The traffic is still high .. just no sales ..
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                                                                                                                                        • More Booze
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 5116
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          this whole week sucks, I have sent 11,235 clicks this week and did only get 2 sales...
                                                                                                                                          Last edited by More Booze; 06-12-2004, 01:17 AM.

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                                                                                                                                            • spooky181
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 2951
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              I live in Austalia and can't use CCbill to join a site as my card is rejected, but any other processor is fine.

                                                                                                                                              For my site and program I used to use CCbill but changed to Verotel and my sales skyrocketed, with no chargeback issues. They scrub waaaaaaaaaay too hard..

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                                                                                                                                                • beemk
                                                                                                                                                  CLICK HERE
                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 20829
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by More Booze
                                                                                                                                                  this whole week sucks, I have sent 11,235 clicks this week and did only get 2 sales...
                                                                                                                                                  time for a new sponsor.
                                                                                                                                                  I host with Vacares

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                                                                                                                                                    • elric
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 296
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Rictor
                                                                                                                                                      Do you wear a tinfoil hat?
                                                                                                                                                      No tinfoil hat here.

                                                                                                                                                      There were several threads in Jan/Dec that included screenshots and links to the CCBill Admin documentation.

                                                                                                                                                      CCBill has features that allow paysite owners to easily shave signups.
                                                                                                                                                      <--- I have never worked with this program.

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                                                                                                                                                        • elric
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 296
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by riosluts
                                                                                                                                                          WOuld the affiliate know that they are being deactivated?
                                                                                                                                                          No. That's what makes it so sinister.

                                                                                                                                                          They could turn you off one day, and then turn you on the next and you would never know.

                                                                                                                                                          Which would explain the "gaps" in signups.

                                                                                                                                                          Hopefully Corvett will address some of these issues on Monday...
                                                                                                                                                          <--- I have never worked with this program.

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                                                                                                                                                            • BVF
                                                                                                                                                              Black Vagina Finder
                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 13975
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by More Booze
                                                                                                                                                              this whole week sucks, I have sent 11,235 clicks this week and did only get 2 sales...
                                                                                                                                                              sucks to be you right now...sorry man

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                                                                                                                                                                • rowan
                                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 17393
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  It's good to see "me too" replies for once... looks like several people are having a bad run.

                                                                                                                                                                  Until a couple of hours ago I hadn't made a single initial (affiliate) sale for 4 days. That's the worst ever since I started sending traffic to ccbill sponsors in early 2003.

                                                                                                                                                                  ColetteX: I did a test signup a few hours ago and coincidentally I now have a second 'real' sale showing as well. Hmmmmm?

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Gottis
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                      • 1746
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      The week was most excellent. Although we're with ibill not ccbill.
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                                                                                                                                                                        • jact
                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                          • 9134
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          I got tired of playing this game, so we just don't promote anything that uses CCBill as their only processor. It's the only way you can ensure you don't have to partake in threads like this.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • TheSwed
                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                                                              • 3483
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Dont anyone have a list with sponsors that have Verotel as billing processor?

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                                                                                                                                                                                • st0rm
                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 195
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by More Booze
                                                                                                                                                                                  this whole week sucks, I have sent 11,235 clicks this week and did only get 2 sales...
                                                                                                                                                                                  i`m 1:13356.0 so far this month
                                                                                                                                                                                  thank god my main sponsors dont use ccbill
                                                                                                                                                                                  the funny thing is i`m seeing that kind of ratios with every ccbill sponsor i`ve tried so far. Insane.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • beemk
                                                                                                                                                                                      CLICK HERE
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 20829
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      you guys seriously need to find new sponsors, i dont think i've had a day this year that i converted worse than 1:1000. thats 90% tgp traffic too.
                                                                                                                                                                                      I host with Vacares

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • spooky181
                                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 2951
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by TheSwed
                                                                                                                                                                                          Dont anyone have a list with sponsors that have Verotel as billing processor?
                                                                                                                                                                                          My amateur pissing and fisting site and program uses Verotel. We used to use CCbill but havn't looked back since moving. See sig

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • SABAI
                                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 2880
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by corvett
                                                                                                                                                                                              i apologize, please allow me to clarify, I was referring to a 'live' test signup, should have made that more clear?

                                                                                                                                                                                              Rather than an internal troubleshooting test signup, which seems to be what you are referring to, and those do not show up in the stats, I meant a live test signup, where you pull out your own credit card and imitate the complete customer experience...

                                                                                                                                                                                              I suggest that you try that

                                                                                                                                                                                              its what i did and as usual i get " Card declined at Pre-Auth. Please validate that the entered information is accurate."

                                                                                                                                                                                              i have over 10 000$ on the VISA GOLD i'm using , its from french bank , i can't buy anything from CCBill.

                                                                                                                                                                                              same thing happens with my second VISA INTERNATIONAL with a very positive credit amount. also issued by a french bank .

                                                                                                                                                                                              my guess is that you can signup with CCBill only with an american CC


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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Lifer
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 871
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by SoundMan
                                                                                                                                                                                                  blame it on free porn..
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • elric
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 296
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by jact
                                                                                                                                                                                                      I got tired of playing this game, so we just don't promote anything that uses CCBill as their only processor. It's the only way you can ensure you don't have to partake in threads like this.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yeah, that may be the only solution.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      <--- I have never worked with this program.

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