Originally posted by The Truth Hurts Ya know, it's amazing... i've listened to a total of about an hour of Rush in the past 8 years, yet I still manage to quote him so frequently.
Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, the drudge report, it's all the same lies. I don't care where you get your disinformation, but as long as you keep spitting it out I'm going to keep pointing out how wrong it is. Take dig420's advice, you don't seem like a bad or stupid person, just a great deal misinformed.
Originally posted by benc I can't wait till Kerry is president. The streets will be lined with gold, poverty will cease to exist, there will be no taxes, everyone will be rich, Al Qada will turn into peace loving hippies, terrorism will cease to exist, government corruption will cease to exist.
You really are an idiot
I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....
Originally posted by The Truth Hurts just a thought, but what fucking good is the geneva convention when only one side is following it?
Let me educate you. When American soldiers were captured by Iraq during the first Gulf war they were treated more humanely than the Iraqi prisoners are now. Iraq did not violate the Geneva Convention, so it appears Bush is a war criminal and Saddam was not.
Originally posted by Rich You do realize, it's Bush who appointed this nut and approved everything he did, right? Should he pull off stealing another election he's just going to replace Asskroft with another fundamentalist fanatic who will do the exact same thing to appease the Christian terrorists.
Some people have the same attitude towards Bush as they had towards Reagan... 'well, everyone around him may be doing awful, illegal things, but he sees like a nice guy, so I'll give him another chance'.
The President is his administration.
You read too much into my comments Rich. I don't know why you do it, but you tend to do it quite a bit from what I've seen. Maybe you're purposefully trying to be annoying, I don't know. What I do know is that my comment simply meant that since the election hasn't happened, Kerry taking office is still up in the air. Nothing more, nothing less.
I am well aware that asskroft was appointed by Bush. Nothing in my post suggested otherwise. And Rich, as far as me giving Bush another chance goes... you do realize that I'm from Winnipeg (same as you) and can't vote in the US election, right?
I know I know, you were saying all that for the benefit of everyone else who might be reading this thread, right? Right.
Originally posted by VeriSexy 'in case you forget why we have the Geneva convention, I'll remind you. It's so when US soldiers like MY SON get taken hostage, they don't get tortured. That's why, in case you people forgot'
I am glad there are still people with honor
I love watching the stupid get gulled into believing the likes of a joe biden has "honor".
The US signed the geneva convention. did the guerillas in iraq sign it? Do you know what it says about combatants dressed as civilians? do you know anything? No you don't. that's why joe biden can spout nonsense and the rabble appaud him.
You morons deserve a country led by the bidens of the world. Sadly, you're in the minority so you'll never have to have your nose rubbed in you stupidity by having his ilk rule the country.
Originally posted by SuckOnThis Let me educate you. When American soldiers were captured by Iraq during the first Gulf war they were treated more humanely than the Iraqi prisoners are now. Iraq did not violate the Geneva Convention, so it appears Bush is a war criminal and Saddam was not.
If you consider beating and raping (which took place during the 1st Gulf War) to be more humane and not a violation of the Geneva Convention...then I guess you are right...but your post is in fact BS.
Originally posted by SuckOnThis Let me educate you. When American soldiers were captured by Iraq during the first Gulf war they were treated more humanely than the Iraqi prisoners are now. Iraq did not violate the Geneva Convention, so it appears Bush is a war criminal and Saddam was not.
let me guess, your 7?
son, go back and read what our captured soldiers have to say about their capture.
I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.
Originally posted by SuckOnThis Let me educate you. When American soldiers were captured by Iraq during the first Gulf war they were treated more humanely than the Iraqi prisoners are now. Iraq did not violate the Geneva Convention, so it appears Bush is a war criminal and Saddam was not.
How in hell would you even know this? Were you present in the room for all prisoner handling in Iraq during that war?
No?
Then kindly shut the fuck up.
"Let me educate you"...... you're a retard obviously, who you going to educate?
Originally posted by 12clicks ahahahahaha. yes chump, he was killed because of the prison scandal.
brilliant.
If not him specifically, many US soldiers will be. If you go in to Abu Garab a sheep farmer, get tortured for 2 months and released, you come out an American killer.
Unfortunately the only people who can't understand this along with 12clicks seems to be Asskroft, Rummy, Bush and company. Send your fucking kids then.
Originally posted by 12clicks funnier still: people who weren't there explaining what "actually" happened.
Originally posted by 12clicks And I'm sure joe biden has you convinced that ashhahahahaha endorsed it.
Most people have realized that for some time, and it was hilarious that Biden made Asskroft look like such a little jackass yesterday. You'd have to be pretty fucking stupid to believe it was hundreds of soldiers who coincidentally tortured these people in the same way at different locations.
Let me take a wild guess, you haven't read the Taguba report. Your entire knowledge of this torture and everything else about this war comes from the CNN ticker.
Read it, then come back and try to talk to people who know what they're talking about. Every so often it wouldn't hurt for you to actually understand an issue you're trying to discuss.
Geez 12clicks, still think torture didn't happen? I'll bet you will tomorrow, somehow. The Fox Republican brain really needs to be studied at a university level, normal people can't learn something one day and then unlearn it the next.
Originally posted by Rich Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, the drudge report, it's all the same lies. I don't care where you get your disinformation, but as long as you keep spitting it out I'm going to keep pointing out how wrong it is. Take dig420's advice, you don't seem like a bad or stupid person, just a great deal misinformed.
How anybody can follow those 'sound good' losers like hannity, limbaugh, oreilley...etc,... is beyond me. It's all the same, conservatives/republicans... all of it is a hoax filled with parasites trying to drive forward their bogus unearned livelihoods by creating problems that do not exist while extracting values from true producers of goods. ...Goods that increase everyones standard of living and happiness. Yes, That includes porn.
Even though he seems to buy into the political hoax, dig420 has a good grip.
Too bad so many here get caught in 'A' points instead of 'The' point.
Glad you're here Rich, I get tired of stepping on these guys every once in a while. A tip for you though, so you won't get too disillusioned:
Their political views have nothing to do with reality. There is nothing - and I mean NOTHING - that you can say that will force them to actually think about their position or follow a thought to a logical conclusion if they don't think they like where it leads. They've already learned everything they'll ever need to know and they get their information from newsmax.com and AM radio.
They're idiots. That's why they're conservative in the first place. 12clicks has to be super republican butch because of that big Village People mustache, he's afraid someone will think he's a leather fag
Originally posted by noshit How anybody can follow those 'sound good' losers like hannity, limbaugh, oreilley...etc,... is beyond me. It's all the same, conservatives/republicans... all of it is a hoax filled with parasites trying to drive forward their bogus unearned livelihoods by creating problems that do not exist while extracting values from true producers of goods. ...Goods that increase everyones standard of living and happiness. Yes, That includes porn.
Even though he seems to buy into the political hoax, dig420 has a good grip.
Too bad so many here get caught in 'A' points instead of 'The' point.
it's not as bad as you think. There are many good people in Washington who are actually committed to the public welfare. They just get drowned out by the anti gay marriage, anti-abortion, pro-bible and anti-porn crowd.
You just can't beat the right-wingers for being persistent, loud and obnoxious.
Originally posted by benc I can't wait till Kerry is president. The streets will be lined with gold, poverty will cease to exist, there will be no taxes, everyone will be rich, Al Qada will turn into peace loving hippies, terrorism will cease to exist, government corruption will cease to exist.
As a businessman, I'd settle for Kerry laying off the harrassment against adult webmasters perpetuated by the present admininstration.
Secular humanism and a bit of empathy for your fellow human beings is the very best 'moral base' you can have. Certain things, it seems to me, you either know instinctively or you just don't have the ability to learn it. You don't torture animals. You don't put crazy people on the street, like Reagan did. You don't sentence a guy who stole a shirt from Macy's to 30 years in San Quentin, even if it IS his third strike. You don't tell a woman she has to carry a kid whether she likes it or not. You don't mix your religion and your government. You don't make someone ride on the back of the bus.
These are things that really shouldn't have to be taught.
Originally posted by CDSmith You read too much into my comments Rich. I don't know why you do it, but you tend to do it quite a bit from what I've seen. Maybe you're purposefully trying to be annoying, I don't know. What I do know is that my comment simply meant that since the election hasn't happened, Kerry taking office is still up in the air. Nothing more, nothing less.
I am well aware that asskroft was appointed by Bush. Nothing in my post suggested otherwise. And Rich, as far as me giving Bush another chance goes... you do realize that I'm from Winnipeg (same as you) and can't vote in the US election, right?
I know I know, you were saying all that for the benefit of everyone else who might be reading this thread, right? Right.
not that i agree with either of you, but the word you're looking for is 'reactionary'.
Originally posted by Bansheelinks As a businessman, I'd settle for Kerry laying off the harrassment against adult webmasters perpetuated by the present admininstration.
id agree, but ive noticed he double talks alot. where he stands now might not be where he stands if elected.
Originally posted by bringer id agree, but ive noticed he double talks alot. where he stands now might not be where he stands if elected.
ah yes, the power of propaganda. Karl Rove says he's waffler, now half the population thinks it's true. He doesn't change his positions any more than any other politician trying to walk a tightrope in front of reporters, and I think he demonstrated his decisiveness pretty conclusively in Vietnam.
You don't hear John McCain trying to smear his war record, just the chickenhawks in the White House. Don't believe a fucking thing they tell you.
Originally posted by dig420 ah yes, the power of propaganda. Karl Rove says he's waffler, now half the population thinks it's true. He doesn't change his positions any more than any other politician trying to walk a tightrope in front of reporters, and I think he demonstrated his decisiveness pretty conclusively in Vietnam.
You don't hear John McCain trying to smear his war record, just the chickenhawks in the White House. Don't believe a fucking thing they tell you.
he panders to the audience he's speaking to at that moment.
he cant be on everyones side, but he sure does try.
Originally posted by 12clicks The US signed the geneva convention. did the guerillas in iraq sign it? Do you know what it says about combatants dressed as civilians? do you know anything? No you don't. that's why joe biden can spout nonsense and the rabble appaud him.
The Geneva Convetion doesn't endorse or say anything about going into countries without good cause either. So when you do that, your bound to have "guerillas" try to kill you.
If America decided to invade Canada tommorrow because of it's rich natural resources to take it and use it for their own profit, Canadians would be justified in defending their country and resources, even if it meant killing US troops, and yes they would likely be wearing civilian clothing. Like Iraq, Canada has no military strength to speak of so it would be citizens or sympathizers defending their country any way they could.
Originally posted by dig420 ah yes, the power of propaganda. Karl Rove says he's waffler, now half the population thinks it's true. He doesn't change his positions any more than any other politician trying to walk a tightrope in front of reporters, and I think he demonstrated his decisiveness pretty conclusively in Vietnam.
You don't hear John McCain trying to smear his war record, just the chickenhawks in the White House. Don't believe a fucking thing they tell you.
Originally posted by dig420 being an idiot, you wouldn't know that the Washington Times is owned by Sun Myung Moon and is a right wing rag. Yes, this is classic propaganda.
Now you know.
i know who owns it
i also know cnn and the other liberal news media would never raise the issue. maybe kerry should sue them for the horrible lies they are spreading about him. i find it amusing how anything negative published about the left is "propaganda" where cnn and others bashing bush are noting but fact.
Originally posted by bringer i know who owns it
i also know cnn and the other liberal news media would never raise the issue. maybe kerry should sue them for the horrible lies they are spreading about him. i find it amusing how anything negative published about the left is "propaganda" where cnn and others bashing bush are noting but fact.
If you'd believe the Moonies over CNN there's really nothing I can say to you.
Liberal media, my ass. They're owned by corporations and they toe the line to their masters, for the most part.
Do you see anyone talking about Iran-Contra right now? No. They gave an hour of coverage to a non-moving plane on a runway that only held Reagan's body. He was non-moving as well. That sound like liberal bias to you? Is there any liberal network like Fox?
Conservatives have gotten to their present position because they are masters of the media and they know how to work the system.
The Most Biased Name in News, Seth Ackerman, Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, August 2001
?Years ago, Republican party chair Rich Bond explained that conservatives' frequent denunciations of ?liberal bias? in the media were part of ?a strategy? (Washington Post, 8/20/92). Comparing journalists to referees in a sports match, Bond explained: ?If you watch any great coach, what they try to do is ?work the refs.? Maybe the ref will cut you a little slack next time.??
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The Liberal Media, RIP, Eric Alterman, The Nation, March 13, 2000
?Bill Kristol, perhaps the most honest and intelligent conservative in Washington (excluding, of course, that funny, friendly, charming McCain fellow). ?The press isn't quite as biased and liberal. They're actually conservative sometimes,? Kristol said recently on CNN. If Chris missed that one, he might have come across a similar admission by Kristol offered up in the spring of 1995. ?I admit it,? Kristol told The New Yorker. ?The whole idea of the 'liberal media' was often used as an excuse by conservatives for conservative failures.??
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Spinning Populism In American News Media, Norman Solomon, Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, undated
??The truth is, I've gotten fairer, more comprehensive coverage of my ideas than I ever imagined I would receive,? Buchanan acknowledged in March 1996. He added: ?I've gotten balanced coverage and broad coverage -- all we could have asked.??
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Interesting stuff huh? Amazing what you find out when you actually look to see if there's really any evidence of a liberal media.
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