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  • Shap
    Confirmed User
    • May 2001
    • 8313
    #1

    Business Discussion... The Importance of Join Pages

    Hi Everyone. Hope you all had a Happy Easter. I've been thinking all weekend long about Join Pages. So here's my question
    How Much Difference does the design of a Join Page Make?

    I've done alot of research and you'd be surprised by what is out there. Alot of the bigger sites that are getting huge sales look like they've spent little time on their join page. I've also noticed alot of sites using ccbill don't even bother to take advantage of their custom join form, they are using the standard join form. So how much of a difference does the design of the join page make? 5%? 10%? 15%? Have any of you tested this out?

    From my research I would say most paysites spend very little time fine tuning their join page and alot of time fine tuning the tour. Is this a smart move? I've seen our numbers and personally I think Join Pages can make a HUGE difference in closing the deal. Easily a 10 to 15% difference in sales. Anybody else see this?

    And lastly what are some of the best Join pages you've seen?

    Hopefully this will turn in to a good little discussion.
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    • digifan
      The Profiler
      • Oct 2002
      • 14618
      #2
      Hope you were having Happy Easter too, Shap

      I don't have a pay site atm but this thread definitely deserves a bump.
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        • Raven
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2001
          • 6874
          #3
          I've noticed most join pages lack information. It's the last chance to get someone to sign up and many times what I see is an image and the join buttons.

          I can't think of one off the top of my head; but, it's almost like an ebay auction. The more info you give on the join, the better....info such as the women they're getting..all that stuff inside...that, within a few minutes and a teeny bit of inconvenience..they will have all THIS...and name it or image it or something...
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            • WiredGuy
              Pounding Googlebot
              • Aug 2002
              • 34512
              #4
              Very interesting thread. I'm particularly interested in the pre-collection forms, like the ones that ask for name, email, state, country before hitting the CC page. I'm rather curious if spreading the information over 2 pages is better or worse.

              WG
              I play with Google.

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                • Babagirls
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                  • Feb 2001
                  • 18812
                  #5
                  bad join page: https://bill.ccbill.com/jpost/signup.cgi?...
                  nice join page: http://ravenriley.com/join.php
                  Last edited by Babagirls; 03-27-2005, 08:22 PM.




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                    • w0rstluk
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                      • Feb 2005
                      • 78
                      #6
                      cyberage has an awesome join page
                      http://signup.avsofchoice.com/apply?...135&moreinfo=1

                      looks like you can trust the company and the information is all clearly there
                      Last edited by w0rstluk; 03-27-2005, 08:25 PM.

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                        • Pete-KT
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                          • Oct 2004
                          • 51532
                          #7
                          thats a nice one

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                            • Triple 6
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                              • Feb 2002
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                              #8
                              join pages should be as simple as possible, but its also a good idea to remind them of what they are getting when they join, dazzle them with text because its not what you say but how you say it - just dont over do it. Make em feel GOOD about pulling out that card, re-emphasize the goodies.
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                                • Babagirls
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                                  • Feb 2001
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                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Triple 6
                                  join pages should be as simple as possible, but its also a good idea to remind them of what they are getting when they join, dazzle them with text because its not what you say but how you say it - just dont over do it. Make em feel GOOD about pulling out that card, re-emphasize the goodies.
                                  most definatly! just a simple list of membership benefits is always good. in case they're wondering what all is included or even to remind them of what all the membership hold. turn that join page hit into a sale




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                                    • buddyjuf
                                      #10
                                      just by promoting different sites with the exact same traffic and creative, send them both to the join page, the difference in sales is easily noticable

                                      edit: or it could just be the shaving, hehehe
                                      Last edited by Guest; 03-27-2005, 08:36 PM.

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                                        • Mutt
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                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 34431
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Babagirls
                                          bad join page: https://bill.ccbill.com/jpost/signup.cgi?...
                                          nice join page: http://ravenriley.com/join.php
                                          shap was talking about the CCBILL join page - that site has one of CCBILL's designs.

                                          here's a custom CCBILL join page - click on credit card - Ashley's right there beside them as they put in their credit card information

                                          http://tour4.ashleybrookes.com/join.html
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                                            • Mutt
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Sep 2002
                                              • 34431
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                              Very interesting thread. I'm particularly interested in the pre-collection forms, like the ones that ask for name, email, state, country before hitting the CC page. I'm rather curious if spreading the information over 2 pages is better or worse.

                                              WG
                                              i wonder about this too
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                                                • Arousal Design
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                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                  • 1358
                                                  #13
                                                  I think join pages are the most under designed pages =) (other than welcome pages)..

                                                  You'd just have to assume that the page that will ultimately get a surfer to input his CC information has to be worthy of a lot of time and consideration.

                                                  If they got that far, then they might actually be interested in joining and its time to close the sale. I think the most important thing for me is creating a sense of trust and saftey on the join page so that surfers feel like there's a legitimate business behind the site and they're not giving their sensitive information to just anyone.

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                                                    • Babagirls
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                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                      • 18812
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Mutt
                                                      shap was talking about the CCBILL join page - that site has one of CCBILL's designs.

                                                      here's a custom CCBILL join page - click on credit card - Ashley's right there beside them as they put in their credit card information

                                                      http://tour4.ashleybrookes.com/join.html
                                                      her's is nice too. but RavenRiley.com (who also uses ccbill) has a nice one as well i thought, better than pussycash's (the "bad join page" link i posted)




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                                                        • Raven
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                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 6874
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Babagirls
                                                          bad join page: https://bill.ccbill.com/jpost/signup.cgi?...
                                                          nice join page: http://ravenriley.com/join.php
                                                          Exactly. Thanks for doing my brain work for me.
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                                                            • hydro
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                              • 4216
                                                              #16
                                                              Yea join pages really are over looked and can hurt your sales if it sucks. Best thing to do is have page 1 collect name, email, usernam,password and then the 2nd page collect address, phone, card info. Adding a small video that plays as soon as the page loads with your hottest model can really boost join page conversions. Just something like having her naked on a bed rubbing her pussy and saying something like "thanks for joining my website, i hope to see you inside real soon" will do

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                                                                • Pornwolf
                                                                  Drunk and Unruly
                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                  • 22712
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by w0rstluk
                                                                  cyberage has an awesome join page
                                                                  http://signup.avsofchoice.com/apply?...135&moreinfo=1

                                                                  looks like you can trust the company and the information is all clearly there
                                                                  G'ddamnit! That join page made me wanna join! Good stuff. Hell, I bet you can send traffic straight to that page and do better than sending to a lot of other program's tours.
                                                                  I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

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                                                                    • Babagirls
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                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                      • 18812
                                                                      #18
                                                                      anyone have a favorite sponsor with nice join pages? its actaully something ive been playing around with, been seeing alot of hits to join pages but really bad sales from the join pages with a few of my current sponsors.




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                                                                        • Za Ha
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                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                          • 5112
                                                                          #19
                                                                          In Vegas, I spoke to a guy who was at his first convention. He works in mainstream and optimizes join pages. He said an increase of 15% was possible if done right.

                                                                          Too bad I didnt get his name.

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                                                                            • DA2
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                              • 243
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by shap
                                                                              Hi Everyone. Hope you all had a Happy Easter. I've been thinking all weekend long about Join Pages. So here's my question
                                                                              How Much Difference does the design of a Join Page Make?

                                                                              I've done alot of research and you'd be surprised by what is out there. Alot of the bigger sites that are getting huge sales look like they've spent little time on their join page. I've also noticed alot of sites using ccbill don't even bother to take advantage of their custom join form, they are using the standard join form. So how much of a difference does the design of the join page make? 5%? 10%? 15%? Have any of you tested this out?

                                                                              From my research I would say most paysites spend very little time fine tuning their join page and alot of time fine tuning the tour. Is this a smart move? I've seen our numbers and personally I think Join Pages can make a HUGE difference in closing the deal. Easily a 10 to 15% difference in sales. Anybody else see this?

                                                                              And lastly what are some of the best Join pages you've seen?

                                                                              Hopefully this will turn in to a good little discussion.

                                                                              Do you mean the join page hosted by the processor or the pre join page hosted on the sites domain?
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                                                                                • Shap
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                  • 8313
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Join page = page hosted by paysite that has join options
                                                                                  Join form = page hosted by processor where cc info is entered.

                                                                                  Nice to see this discussion picking up.

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                                                                                    • Sarah - GTS
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                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                      • 1656
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Shap I would join your sites in a minute you dirty dog

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                                                                                        • Kevsh
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                                                                                          • Dec 2004
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by w0rstluk
                                                                                          cyberage has an awesome join page
                                                                                          http://signup.avsofchoice.com/apply?...135&moreinfo=1

                                                                                          looks like you can trust the company and the information is all clearly there
                                                                                          That's good, though a little long. Nice to see an FAQ right on the Join page which very few sites do. I also like to see them displaying your IP and the little "we prosecute fraud" blurb, even as a "surfer".

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                                                                                            • Steen2
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                                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                                              • 7662
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              I don't like a lot of promo content on a join page, ravenriley is a good one! Just a lil non-nude side pic of her.

                                                                                              Cyberage's is long, the join is at the bottom. Good with the text terms outlines but too long and too many images (too complex).
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                                                                                                • V_RocKs
                                                                                                  Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                                  • 32449
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  I think TCG's idea of not puting the prices on the join pages sucks... it benifits them and not us and I don't like it one bit.

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                                                                                                    • Snake Doctor
                                                                                                      I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                                      • Mar 2001
                                                                                                      • 13449
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                      Very interesting thread. I'm particularly interested in the pre-collection forms, like the ones that ask for name, email, state, country before hitting the CC page. I'm rather curious if spreading the information over 2 pages is better or worse.

                                                                                                      WG
                                                                                                      The purpose of doing that is for the paysite to collect the email address (and whatever other info they want) before sending the surfer off to the processor.
                                                                                                      (That way if the surfer gets declined or changes their mind on the next page they still have the email address....that's worth something)

                                                                                                      I like bullet points on join pages to help close the sale.

                                                                                                      http://www.realbigracks.com/pt=house/join.php
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                                                                                                        • Dalai lama
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                                                                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                                                                          • 16540
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          bookmarked this thread

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                                                                                                            • Dalai lama
                                                                                                              Strength and Honor
                                                                                                              • Jul 2004
                                                                                                              • 16540
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                                                              I think TCG's idea of not puting the prices on the join pages sucks... it benifits them and not us and I don't like it one bit.
                                                                                                              Most sites do have prices, only some dont. Also TCG has different pricing on some sites, lower trial/higher rebill - higher trial/lower rebill. It should be a benefit for them, since we get paid per sale and not on revshare.

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                                                                                                                • Toolshed
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                                                                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                  • 59
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  we have spent a considerable amount of time developing and tweaking our join pages. And I must say, our joins rock. (I've been through a few hundred thousand of them so I know what rocks when I see it)

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                                                                                                                    • CashLikeWhoa_Mike
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                                                                                                                      • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                      • 1202
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Arousal Design
                                                                                                                      I think join pages are the most under designed pages =) (other than welcome pages)..

                                                                                                                      You'd just have to assume that the page that will ultimately get a surfer to input his CC information has to be worthy of a lot of time and consideration.

                                                                                                                      If they got that far, then they might actually be interested in joining and its time to close the sale. I think the most important thing for me is creating a sense of trust and saftey on the join page so that surfers feel like there's a legitimate business behind the site and they're not giving their sensitive information to just anyone.
                                                                                                                      well said


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                                                                                                                        • Babagirls
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                                                                                                                          • Feb 2001
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Za Ha
                                                                                                                          In Vegas, I spoke to a guy who was at his first convention. He works in mainstream and optimizes join pages. He said an increase of 15% was possible if done right.

                                                                                                                          Too bad I didnt get his name.
                                                                                                                          another reason why people should be handing out business cards to everyone they meet at conventions.




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                                                                                                                            • Steen2
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                                                                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                              • 7662
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Lenny2

                                                                                                                              I like bullet points on join pages to help close the sale.

                                                                                                                              http://www.realbigracks.com/pt=house/join.php
                                                                                                                              Good find.
                                                                                                                              You make a good point.
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                                                                                                                                • DA2
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                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                  • 243
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                                                                                  I think TCG's idea of not puting the prices on the join pages sucks... it benifits them and not us and I don't like it one bit.

                                                                                                                                  Do you honestly thing that TCG would not test the conversions between showing prices and not showing.
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                                                                                                                                    • Drake
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                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 12508
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Triple 6
                                                                                                                                      join pages should be as simple as possible, but its also a good idea to remind them of what they are getting when they join, dazzle them with text because its not what you say but how you say it - just dont over do it. Make em feel GOOD about pulling out that card, re-emphasize the goodies.
                                                                                                                                      I agree.

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                                                                                                                                        • Snake Doctor
                                                                                                                                          I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 13449
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by DA2
                                                                                                                                          Do you honestly thing that TCG would not test the conversions between showing prices and not showing.
                                                                                                                                          Well it doesn't matter...they collect the info on the first page which is worth money to them.
                                                                                                                                          The surfer sees the price on the next page and if they think its too high and leave....they've still collected the info.
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                                                                                                                                            • sean416
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                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                              • 3633
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Toolshed
                                                                                                                                              we have spent a considerable amount of time developing and tweaking our join pages. And I must say, our joins rock. (I've been through a few hundred thousand of them so I know what rocks when I see it)
                                                                                                                                              thats awesome man. thanks for showing us your joing pages and telling us what makes a join page rock. your contribution to this thread was outstanding.

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                                                                                                                                                • Toolshed
                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 59
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by sean416
                                                                                                                                                  thats awesome man. thanks for showing us your joing pages and telling us what makes a join page rock. your contribution to this thread was outstanding.
                                                                                                                                                  if you'd care to donate $20k to the dev team, I'll be more than happy to guide you through every inch of what we've come up with.

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                                                                                                                                                    • venus
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                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2003
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      the collection pages offer you more opportunities if done correctly

                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                                                                      I'm particularly interested in the pre-collection forms, like the ones that ask for name, email, state, country before hitting the CC page. I'm rather curious if spreading the information over 2 pages is better or worse.

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                                                                                                                                                        • DA2
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                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2005
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                                                                                                                          Well it doesn't matter...they collect the info on the first page which is worth money to them.
                                                                                                                                                          The surfer sees the price on the next page and if they think its too high and leave....they've still collected the info.

                                                                                                                                                          The "info" is not worth anywhere near the trial is. They want to get paying members no "info". If TCG sites converted better from join page to join "form" traffic showing pricing they would indeed show pricing.
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                                                                                                                                                            • Snake Doctor
                                                                                                                                                              I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                                                              • 13449
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by DA2
                                                                                                                                                              The "info" is not worth anywhere near the trial is. They want to get paying members no "info". If TCG sites converted better from join page to join "form" traffic showing pricing they would indeed show pricing.
                                                                                                                                                              Sure....but again.....if the price is 4.95 trial rebilling at 39.95 and the surfer thinks that's too expensive then they'll leave without entering info.

                                                                                                                                                              They're either going to get the trial signup or not....this way they collect the info from more people which is more $$ to them.

                                                                                                                                                              *Edit*
                                                                                                                                                              Also forgot to add.....a 4.95 trial is worth -30.00 to them the first day....since they're paying you $35 a sale.
                                                                                                                                                              The member info is worth a couple of bucks and they didn't have to pay you anything for it.

                                                                                                                                                              Just some food for thought.
                                                                                                                                                              Last edited by Snake Doctor; 03-27-2005, 10:22 PM.
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                                                                                                                                                                • DA2
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                                                                                                                                  Sure....but again.....if the price is 4.95 trial rebilling at 39.95 and the surfer thinks that's too expensive then they'll leave without entering info.

                                                                                                                                                                  They're either going to get the trial signup or not....this way they collect the info from more people which is more $$ to them.

                                                                                                                                                                  *Edit*
                                                                                                                                                                  Also forgot to add.....a 4.95 trial is worth -30.00 to them the first day....since they're paying you $35 a sale.
                                                                                                                                                                  The member info is worth a couple of bucks and they didn't have to pay you anything for it.

                                                                                                                                                                  Just some food for thought.

                                                                                                                                                                  I know where you are coming from and it was alot more relevant a few years ago. Im willing to guess the "info" is not worth more than 30cents now days. Even with a 30% confirm rate (which would be high on a pre checked "Do you want to recieve free pics in your email" confirm mail on a double optin)
                                                                                                                                                                  You can will only get $1 per a confirm so you are lookin at about 30 cents an "info"
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Snake Doctor
                                                                                                                                                                      I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                                                                      • 13449
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by DA2
                                                                                                                                                                      I know where you are coming from and it was alot more relevant a few years ago. Im willing to guess the "info" is not worth more than 30cents now days. Even with a 30% confirm rate (which would be high on a pre checked "Do you want to recieve free pics in your email" confirm mail on a double optin)
                                                                                                                                                                      You can will only get $1 per a confirm so you are lookin at about 30 cents an "info"
                                                                                                                                                                      I'm not even talking about the "do you want free pics in your email" boxes.
                                                                                                                                                                      I'm talking about the "enter username, enter password, enter email, click here to join" forms.

                                                                                                                                                                      If you think nobody mails to those email addresses you're smoking some good shit.
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                                                                                                                                                                        • venus
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Anyone can be a consultant, or an "optimizer" or what ever, what you have to ask them is what makes him/her such and what can he do to make it better.
                                                                                                                                                                          you can get an increase of 15% just by using targeted traffic with your current join page.

                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Za Ha
                                                                                                                                                                          In Vegas, I spoke to a guy who was at his first convention. He works in mainstream and optimizes join pages. He said an increase of 15% was possible if done right.

                                                                                                                                                                          Too bad I didnt get his name.
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                                                                                                                                                                              • 3112
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              the info is gold if the person did not join.
                                                                                                                                                                              Also I do nto put trial subscriptions on my join page, I would prefer they join for the full price first.

                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by DA2
                                                                                                                                                                              The "info" is not worth anywhere near the trial is. .
                                                                                                                                                                              Muscle/Fitness Adult Affiliate Program
                                                                                                                                                                              Since 1997 www.venuscash.com

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                                                                                                                                                                                • venus
                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 3112
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  here is my current join page, works for me
                                                                                                                                                                                  http://www.landofvenus.com/join-venus.html
                                                                                                                                                                                  Muscle/Fitness Adult Affiliate Program
                                                                                                                                                                                  Since 1997 www.venuscash.com

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Morgan
                                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 10520
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Im sure it's been said a hundred times already in these responses, but it's good to brag about what's inside and show exactly what they get when they join. The more shit it looks like you have inside, the better.

                                                                                                                                                                                      My join pages have an include that displays all the sites in our network, and some blurbs about how we add new content all the time and new sites all the time.

                                                                                                                                                                                      If you offer an all access deal, that has to help.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Otherwise, keep it clean and simple. One thing im curious about is collecting their signup info on multiple pages. Username/Password initially, then hitting them up with the rest of the fields on the next page....
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • w0rstluk
                                                                                                                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 78
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          man that sig really hurts my eyes ganj ;[

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • w0rstluk
                                                                                                                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 78
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Steen2
                                                                                                                                                                                              Cyberage's is long, the join is at the bottom. Good with the text terms outlines but too long and too many images (too complex).
                                                                                                                                                                                              there is an option to to make a shorter join for them, that link was for moreinfo=1

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Too old to care
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 52942
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  The basics are ABC, Always Be Closing.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  But when selling there is a time to shut your mouth and stay quiet. Otherwise you will put off the buyer.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  But then how many click on the join page as the next in the tour, not thinking it's a join page?

                                                                                                                                                                                                  IMO Just a gentle reminder of what the site holds is best, X number of sets, Y number of videos and Z of what ever else, is best. We show my magazine front covers and a few testimonials which I think shoud go.



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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Shap
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 8313
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50

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