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  • Babaganoosh
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    • Nov 2001
    • 15841

    #1

    FUSKER - A Permanent Solution?

    First let me say that I believe that anyone who submits galleries or runs a paysite and doesn't have some kind of hotlink protection is just begging for trouble. I don't have much sympathy for you when you get Fuskered. Having said that, I still believe what Fusker does is wrong and I am ready to do something about it.

    If something irritates me, I like to try to find an innovative way to deal with it. I have effictively shut down a few medium-sized phishers by writing a little script that connects to their script via a proxy and submits false information over & over again so they are flooded with bogus customer data. Even if someone is stupid enough to give the phishers their actual login information, the phisher will more than likely never see it due to the tremendous amount of bogus data I have sent them. This is particularly effective when there is more than one person running the script...but I digress.

    I was thinking about the Fusker problem today and was trying to figure out a legal but effective way to deal with it. Here's what I came up with:

    I can write a script that will connect to Fusker every 30 minutes or so and check all of the newest "Fuskers" that are listed. When the script finds one that has working images, the script will do a quick whois on the domain and send the owner of the domain an email explaining what Fusker is and how to stop it from stealing their bandwidth. There will obviously have to be a lot more to it, but that's my basic idea. If anyone (especially other programmers) have any ideas on how to improve upon this, please let me know.
    I like pie.
  • JFPdude
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2002
    • 4027

    #2
    I forsee [email protected] getting a lot of email from this.

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    • Manowar
      jellyfish  
      • Dec 2003
      • 71528

      #3
      http://www.businessvoyeur.com/2005-0...o-block-fusker

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      • Babaganoosh
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        • Nov 2001
        • 15841

        #4
        Originally posted by JFPdude
        I forsee [email protected] getting a lot of email from this.
        Yeah, I thought of that. I guess I can't help those who don't want to be helped.
        I like pie.

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        • Babaganoosh
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          • Nov 2001
          • 15841

          #5
          Most competent webmasters know how to use .htaccess but for some reason lots don't bother to do it.
          I like pie.

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          • dij
            Confirmed User
            • May 2003
            • 2163

            #6
            Originally posted by Babaganoosh

            I was thinking about the Fusker problem today and was trying to figure out a legal but effective way to deal with it. Here's what I came up with:

            I can write a script that will connect to Fusker every 30 minutes or so and check all of the newest "Fuskers" that are listed. When the script finds one that has working images, the script will do a quick whois on the domain and send the owner of the domain an email explaining what Fusker is and how to stop it from stealing their bandwidth. There will obviously have to be a lot more to it, but that's my basic idea. If anyone (especially other programmers) have any ideas on how to improve upon this, please let me know.
            That's an awesome idea. Would really show people that they need to protect their images.

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            • JFPdude
              Confirmed User
              • Jan 2002
              • 4027

              #7

              This doesn't work. Fusker has taught their surfers to copy and paste image locations into the browsers. Therefore 1/2 the requests don't come from Fusker themselves.

              The basic .htaccess code you have listed first is one way to slow the traffic though.

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              • JFPdude
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2002
                • 4027

                #8
                I am going to say this again for people that haven't heard me before.

                Fusker is not hitting any of my domains. I threatened them with a lawsuit and I intend to follow through with it if they list me again.

                I emailed them a complete list of my domains and threatened if any of them showed up on their boards they would be sued.

                They responded and said my domains are blocked in their script. Since then I have not had any hits from fusker.

                webmaster (at) fusker dot com

                Email them give it a try. It worked for me.

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                • webspider
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2001
                  • 340

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JFPdude
                  I am going to say this again for people that haven't heard me before.

                  Fusker is not hitting any of my domains. I threatened them with a lawsuit and I intend to follow through with it if they list me again.

                  I emailed them a complete list of my domains and threatened if any of them showed up on their boards they would be sued.

                  They responded and said my domains are blocked in their script. Since then I have not had any hits from fusker.

                  webmaster (at) fusker dot com

                  Email them give it a try. It worked for me.
                  Yep
                  Weird Stuff

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                  • James White
                    Confirmed User
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 1405

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JFPdude
                    I am going to say this again for people that haven't heard me before.

                    Fusker is not hitting any of my domains. I threatened them with a lawsuit and I intend to follow through with it if they list me again.

                    I emailed them a complete list of my domains and threatened if any of them showed up on their boards they would be sued.

                    They responded and said my domains are blocked in their script. Since then I have not had any hits from fusker.

                    webmaster (at) fusker dot com

                    Email them give it a try. It worked for me.
                    Exactly
                    SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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                    • xclusive
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 35218

                      #11
                      Funny how people are always trying to find a way to stop things without first going to the source and just asking

                      I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


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                      • Jace
                        FBOP Class Of 2013
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 35562

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JFPdude
                        I am going to say this again for people that haven't heard me before.

                        Fusker is not hitting any of my domains. I threatened them with a lawsuit and I intend to follow through with it if they list me again.

                        I emailed them a complete list of my domains and threatened if any of them showed up on their boards they would be sued.

                        They responded and said my domains are blocked in their script. Since then I have not had any hits from fusker.

                        webmaster (at) fusker dot com

                        Email them give it a try. It worked for me.
                        exact same thing here..happened once, i asked him to stop, and he did

                        still doesn't make me feel good about them though...they still suck and need to die

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                        • Wolfy
                          Confirmed User
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 3574

                          #13
                          Babaganoosh, regardless of all the things that people say and how many other ways there are to block the fuskers, your idea is a valid one and worth a few minutes of your time for the better good of the internet. Like someone else said, it won't work flawlessly due to false contact info, but the few times it does work will add to fuskers problems and make our existence a little bettter. I give your idea a :

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                          • pornstar2pac
                            Omaha Hi/Lo
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 17380

                            #14
                            A nice e-card to them asking them to stop couldn't hurt
                            Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

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                            • Barefootsies
                              Choice is an Illusion
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 42635

                              #15
                              True enough. Send him a postcard.

                              Should You Email Your Members?

                              Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                              Enough Said.

                              "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                              • Babaganoosh
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                                • Nov 2001
                                • 15841

                                #16
                                Originally posted by xclusive
                                Funny how people are always trying to find a way to stop things without first going to the source and just asking
                                Dear Burglar,

                                I would appreciate it if you would stop breaking into my home and the homes of my family.

                                Thanks in advance!
                                -Babaganoosh


                                It's not something that you should have to ask for. In fact, if you WANT your images hotlinked you should have to contact them. Not the other way around. Being included in their "service" without asking is theft, plain and simple.
                                I like pie.

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                                • DarkJedi
                                  No Refunds Issued.
                                  • Feb 2001
                                  • 28301

                                  #17
                                  let's just DDoS him

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                                  • Babaganoosh
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                                    • Nov 2001
                                    • 15841

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                    let's just DDoS him
                                    If he ever hotlinked me I might do it. Unfortunately the little trick I did on the phishers brought the police to my door. I didn't really get in trouble but they suggested very strongly that I knock it off.
                                    I like pie.

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                                    • SmokeyTheBear
                                      ►SouthOfHeaven
                                      • Jun 2004
                                      • 28609

                                      #19
                                      The advertisers are the way to go.

                                      If they dont make money they cant stay up.

                                      If your neighbour was stealing your cars license plate every morning and you actually caught him on tape, do we really need instructions on how to weld our license plates to our bumpers ? or should the person be arrested.
                                      hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                      • digifan
                                        The Profiler
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 14618

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                        The advertisers are the way to go.

                                        If they dont make money they cant stay up.
                                        And this is what's happening now Smokey :D
                                        [email protected]
                                        Webair Rocks

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                                        • RawAlex
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 9465

                                          #21
                                          Heh-heh...

                                          http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

                                          Made it unprofitable... now it's for sale.

                                          Buy it at your own risk (because you know this turd will build another one right ater you buy it, called, I dunno, fusscker...)

                                          Alex

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                                          • Pornwolf
                                            Drunk and Unruly
                                            • Jan 2002
                                            • 22712

                                            #22
                                            Send letter. If that doesn't work, send pain.
                                            I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

                                            Webair, bitches.

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                                            • venus
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2003
                                              • 3112

                                              #23
                                              you know back when news groups were profitable, I used to post hundreds of pics to them, now that they are all spam new ways are needed.
                                              All my images have my URL on them, so if they give me free advertising I let it go.
                                              Sites I do not want to hotlink I simply put in my htaccess or referral protect the directory as with gallery pages, but overall I do not have a problem with the advertising I get from places like fusker.

                                              Fusker and the thousands of similar sites are not always a bad thing.
                                              I have even purchased advertising space on there and did really well - most of last summer I had a paid advertising on fusker.

                                              Originally posted by Pornwolf
                                              Send letter. If that doesn't work, send pain.
                                              Muscle/Fitness Adult Affiliate Program
                                              Since 1997 www.venuscash.com

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                                              • Babaganoosh
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                                                • Nov 2001
                                                • 15841

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by venus
                                                you know back when news groups were profitable, I used to post hundreds of pics to them, now that they are all spam new ways are needed.
                                                All my images have my URL on them, so if they give me free advertising I let it go.
                                                Sites I do not want to hotlink I simply put in my htaccess or referral protect the directory as with gallery pages, but overall I do not have a problem with the advertising I get from places like fusker.

                                                Fusker and the thousands of similar sites are not always a bad thing.
                                                I have even purchased advertising space on there and did really well - most of last summer I had a paid advertising on fusker.
                                                You admit to advertising on Fusker?
                                                I like pie.

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                                                • venus
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                  • 3112

                                                  #25
                                                  if it makes me money I would even advertise on your site

                                                  Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                                                  You admit to advertising on Fusker?
                                                  Muscle/Fitness Adult Affiliate Program
                                                  Since 1997 www.venuscash.com

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                                                  • Babaganoosh
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                                                    • Nov 2001
                                                    • 15841

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by venus
                                                    if it makes me money I would even advertise on your site
                                                    No you wouldn't. I wouldn't let you.
                                                    I like pie.

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                                                    • venus
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                      • 3112

                                                      #27
                                                      thats good, thats how I feel, I would never sell advertising space on my site either, but I will buy it from anyone who I think I can convert or who does convert for me.
                                                      You would be surprised how good fusker converts tho.
                                                      trying to get rid of them is like trying to get rid of usenet.
                                                      Usenet helped allot of sites get their first traffic, including mine.

                                                      Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                                                      No you wouldn't. I wouldn't let you.
                                                      Muscle/Fitness Adult Affiliate Program
                                                      Since 1997 www.venuscash.com

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                                                      • media
                                                        Confirmed Moneymaker
                                                        • Apr 2002
                                                        • 9853

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by RawAlex
                                                        Heh-heh...

                                                        http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

                                                        Made it unprofitable... now it's for sale.

                                                        Buy it at your own risk (because you know this turd will build another one right ater you buy it, called, I dunno, fusscker...)

                                                        Alex
                                                        LOL!! In the items terms..

                                                        Important notes:

                                                        * We receive traffic from other redirected names we own; this traffic would go away.
                                                        I'm here for the violence!

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                                                        • quantum-x
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                          • 6863

                                                          #29
                                                          Fusker surfers will never sign up.
                                                          PrettyInCash.com - BoozedGFs.com - TeenGFs.com - JizzGFs.com- MilfUploads.com -

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                                                          • venus
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                            • 3112

                                                            #30
                                                            thats what I thought, but the same had been said for usenet also.
                                                            Anyone who spammed usenet back in 1997/98 knows better tho.

                                                            Originally posted by quantum-x
                                                            Fusker surfers will never sign up.
                                                            Muscle/Fitness Adult Affiliate Program
                                                            Since 1997 www.venuscash.com

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                                                            • Babaganoosh
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                                                              • Nov 2001
                                                              • 15841

                                                              #31
                                                              Venus, I found out why you're sticking up for Fusker...

                                                              http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...eaver-fest.com

                                                              http://www.whois.sc/venuscash.com
                                                              http://www.whois.sc/beaver-fest.com

                                                              You RUN a Fusker site!!!

                                                              I'm tempted to make this into a thread of its own. I wonder what webmasters would say about that?
                                                              I like pie.

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                                                              • Babaganoosh
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                                                                • Nov 2001
                                                                • 15841

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                                                                Venus, I found out why you're sticking up for Fusker...

                                                                http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...eaver-fest.com

                                                                http://www.whois.sc/venuscash.com
                                                                http://www.whois.sc/beaver-fest.com

                                                                You RUN a Fusker site!!!

                                                                I'm tempted to make this into a thread of its own. I wonder what webmasters would say about that?
                                                                http://www.beaver-fest.com/fusker/live/
                                                                I like pie.

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                                                                • Jakke PNG
                                                                  ex-TeenGodFather
                                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                                  • 20306

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                                                                  Venus, I found out why you're sticking up for Fusker...
                                                                  You RUN a Fusker site!!!
                                                                  ..and I'm off.

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                                                                  • MattO
                                                                    The O is for Oohhh
                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                    • 10861

                                                                    #34

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                                                                    • rowan
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                                      • 17393

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                                                                      I'm tempted to make this into a thread of its own. I wonder what webmasters would say about that?
                                                                      Dare ya.

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                                                                      • nmcog
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Sep 2004
                                                                        • 825

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                                                                        Venus, I found out why you're sticking up for Fusker...

                                                                        http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...eaver-fest.com

                                                                        http://www.whois.sc/venuscash.com
                                                                        http://www.whois.sc/beaver-fest.com

                                                                        You RUN a Fusker site!!!

                                                                        I'm tempted to make this into a thread of its own. I wonder what webmasters would say about that?
                                                                        owned

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                                                                        • Rui
                                                                          web
                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                          • 9533

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by quantum-x
                                                                          Fusker surfers will never sign up.
                                                                          no shit...

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