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Originally Posted by OzMan
Actually the back of my desk looks very similiar, except all that is holding it together is gravity, a smidgeon of dark matter and my thought energy reinforced daily that all is well...
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Sounds like a variation on the "Held together with duct-tape, spit and a prayer" theory.
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Also, good post rickholio. I don't think Jack was entirely saying Religion and Metaphysics should be lumped together as the opposite of Science although I can see some parts that seem to imply this. Religion in its outward, stagnant, dogma encrusted sense is mostly about regurgitating vague shallow concepts. I think of metaphysics as actively and dynamically trying to provide us with increasingly more detailed information on the workings of the stuff that science can't prove yet.
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I wasn't trying to be antagonistic, just pointing out that there was a schism between the application of 'religion' as a concept here versus what much of the world considers it. Indeed, I believe that those philosophical pursuits shared by secular and ecumenical thinkers in tandem help propell us forward culturally, by providing us both scientific advancements and a framework in which to digest and control them.
The scary thing is that philosophy lately seems to be getting trumped by 'common wisdom', which is just a code word for intolerance. The philosophical side has been lax in its duties to provide more nuanced and perfected ways of processing our ever more nuanced and complex planet. As a result, witness the resurgence of the "Ignern't and Proud" mob, public support for the purging of 'intellectuals' from various positions of power and other KhmerRouge-esqe precursors. Pointing this stuff out doesn't add much to a conversation about the abstract goals and admixture of religion and science, so I won't drag this point out.
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But as always it's not the information source, it's what you do with it and if it helps you to live your life better then it works for you.
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Assuming that the information given isn't pure bullshit. It'd have to suck if you built a great life only to find out later on that it's all based on a lie.
