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  • RawAlex
    So Fucking Banned
    • Oct 2003
    • 9465

    #1

    ashley brookes site gets fuskered

    http://fusker.lewww.com/index.php?lid=582006&offset=150

    You folks really should put some hotlink protection on your sites... your getting slammed right now.

    Alex
  • who
    So Fucking Banned
    • Aug 2003
    • 19593

    #2
    Yup.. get this fisked dudez

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    • Manowar
      jellyfish  
      • Dec 2003
      • 71528

      #3
      http://www.businessvoyeur.com/2005-0...o-block-fusker

      Read, Rinse, Repeat.

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      • who
        So Fucking Banned
        • Aug 2003
        • 19593

        #4
        bump to help a brova out

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        • RawAlex
          So Fucking Banned
          • Oct 2003
          • 9465

          #5
          manowar: We need to keep repeating it. Fusker is a leech, stealing bandwidth, surfers, and money from honest webmasters.

          Everyone needs to make the effort to block the leech!

          Alex

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          • brand0n
            been very busy
            • Nov 2002
            • 26983

            #6
            god shes hot
            want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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            • shermo

              #7
              I hate fusker. I had to block them from 8 domains the other day.

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              • nmcog
                Confirmed User
                • Sep 2004
                • 825

                #8
                Fusker.lewww.com lost their advertising in this thread:
                http://www.greenguyandjim.com/board/...ad.php?t=17808

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                • RawAlex
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 9465

                  #9
                  Brandon, she's hot alright... but if the end users get ahold of all of her content, without any real way to signup (unless they are truly bright enough to try the address in the address bar) then it is a waste of a hotty!

                  sherm: Ask your admin to help you block them at a server level. That can really slow them down...

                  Alex

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                  • TheSenator
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 13340

                    #10


                    I wonder if she fell.
                    ISeekGirls.com since 2005

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                    • Stewie
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 3670

                      #11
                      any good hotlink scripts/progs for win servers?

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                      • Thurbs
                        The Thrilla in Manila
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 4785

                        #12
                        damn that sucks. sorry to hear ash, we'll boost sales anyway

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                        • RawAlex
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 9465

                          #13
                          stewie: anti hotlinking? Sure! Just fdisk the drive, install freebsd and apache, and get with the real world!

                          Alex

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                          • AshleyBrookes
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 481

                            #14
                            Alex - thanks hun

                            Senator - Hell no I didn't fall. I stuck that landing like a pro lol
                            ICQ: 233-305-383

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                            • Stewie
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 3670

                              #15
                              Originally posted by RawAlex
                              stewie: anti hotlinking? Sure! Just fdisk the drive, install freebsd and apache, and get with the real world!

                              Alex
                              First off, I have both Win and Linux boxes, each for different needs, just like many people in the "real world". Plus, FreeBSD sucks.

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                              • SmokeyTheBear
                                ►SouthOfHeaven
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 28609

                                #16
                                they still have one advertiser left..

                                http://www.sugardvd.com/contact/dvdrentals

                                they have a live contact form , i suggest people use it and tell them they are supporting theft
                                hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                • The Sultan Of Smut
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2004
                                  • 4325

                                  #17
                                  I don't get it. I was going to comment on webmasters not preventing hotlinking but I'll just save my breath.

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                                  • RawAlex
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Oct 2003
                                    • 9465

                                    #18
                                    Smokey, sugardvd has shut down their account... the traffic still goes, but they are no longer paying them (their rep posted this elsewhere).

                                    Sultan: It's a two way street - you should always lock your car doors, but people who steal a car because it is unlocked are STILL THIEVES! Right now, Fusker is hotlinking and stealing from hundreds (if not thousands) of people, using their business resources and returning them nothing but a bandwidth bill.

                                    Content used without copyright? Check!
                                    no 2257 documentation? Check!
                                    Possibly linking to CP? Check!
                                    Stealing bandwidth from others? CHECK!

                                    It's a great business model.

                                    Alex

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                                    • SmokeyTheBear
                                      ►SouthOfHeaven
                                      • Jun 2004
                                      • 28609

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by RawAlex
                                      Sultan: It's a two way street - you should always lock your car doors, but people who steal a car because it is unlocked are STILL THIEVES! Right now, Fusker is hotlinking and stealing from hundreds (if not thousands) of people, using their business resources and returning them nothing but a bandwidth bill.

                                      good point.

                                      If someone is stealing your garbage cans everyday because there is no lock on them, should you have to weld them to the ground to protect them , or just arrest the idiot stealing them.
                                      hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                      • cambaby
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Feb 2003
                                        • 3141

                                        #20
                                        I am going to play the devils advocate here so get the fuck off of me with any personal attacks, I agree 100% I dont like hotlinkers, instead try and answer my question...

                                        Is hotlinking illegal? Has it been specifically proven to be illegal?

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                                        • mardigras
                                          Bon temps!
                                          • Feb 2003
                                          • 14194

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by cambaby
                                          Is hotlinking illegal? Has it been specifically proven to be illegal?
                                          If I live next door to you and instead of paying for electricity I sneak behind your house and run a line from your back plug to my house to run a few things, is that illegal?
                                          .

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                                          • Jace
                                            FBOP Class Of 2013
                                            • Jan 2004
                                            • 35562

                                            #22
                                            avn.com supports fusker

                                            http://dir.avnads.com/index.cgi

                                            they have all the fusker sites in a nice directory

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                                            • Jace
                                              FBOP Class Of 2013
                                              • Jan 2004
                                              • 35562

                                              #23
                                              http://www.avnads.com/mb/commerce/pu...&vertical_id=1

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                                              • RawAlex
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Oct 2003
                                                • 9465

                                                #24
                                                cambaby, it's really simple:

                                                Bandwidth used without permission (at someone else's cost)
                                                content used without a license.
                                                content used without 2257 documents (who knows how old the models they link to are?)
                                                content presented without context

                                                They are far beyond "fair use"... they are not presenting a thumb that links to a page, they are presenting all of the images with the HTML stripped off - just pictures, nothing else.

                                                This isn't like a newsgroup scooper (which is still legally VERY questionable), but outright theft. Theft of services (bandwidth) and theft of or misuse of copyrighted material (images) for commercial purposes.

                                                it's not hard to figure out. I think I could even lead Judge Ware to water on this one.

                                                Alex

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                                                • cambaby
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                  • 3141

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by mardigras
                                                  If I live next door to you and instead of paying for electricity I sneak behind your house and run a line from your back plug to my house to run a few things, is that illegal?
                                                  Two very different things, show me a legal case.

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                                                  • Jace
                                                    FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                    • 35562

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by cambaby
                                                    Is hotlinking illegal? Has it been specifically proven to be illegal?
                                                    yes, it is theft

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                                                    • tony299
                                                      lurker
                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 57021

                                                      #27
                                                      why dont people start pulling ads from avn and say until the bandwidth theives are gone no one will advertise with you

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                                                      • cambaby
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                        • 3141

                                                        #28
                                                        Look I agree with you people geez I am not dumb I just want a legal precedence cited?

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                                                        • cambaby
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                          • 3141

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by RawAlex
                                                          cambaby, it's really simple:

                                                          Bandwidth used without permission (at someone else's cost)
                                                          content used without a license.
                                                          content used without 2257 documents (who knows how old the models they link to are?)
                                                          content presented without context

                                                          They are far beyond "fair use"... they are not presenting a thumb that links to a page, they are presenting all of the images with the HTML stripped off - just pictures, nothing else.

                                                          This isn't like a newsgroup scooper (which is still legally VERY questionable), but outright theft. Theft of services (bandwidth) and theft of or misuse of copyrighted material (images) for commercial purposes.

                                                          it's not hard to figure out. I think I could even lead Judge Ware to water on this one.

                                                          Alex

                                                          Alex look man all I am trying to point out is that if its so illegal, where are the legal cases involving this practice? Hotlinking is RAMPANT we all know it, why oh why has there not been a definitive law related to this practice so we can do something other than complain and whine? Dont you think a few high profile legal suits would erode the benefits for people to hotlink?

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                                                          • RawAlex
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                            • 9465

                                                            #30
                                                            Cambaby: Actually, go look up the fair use cases for images. You will see that what fusker does is far beyond fair use.

                                                            Further, they present the content within their site, on their web pages, with their advertising, without a license.

                                                            Content providers these days are pretty much lame-ass when it comes to legal action. They aren't making enough of a margin making content to be able to afford a lawyer to serve these people in another state, and they don't want to be the ones setting the precident. So the whole thing just goes on.

                                                            Programs (such as AVNAds) are not bound by court decisions to make their choices. It is clear within our community that this type of arrangement isn't good, it steals from other webmasters, and money is made by having other people pay to support your site unwittingly.

                                                            Any number of news organizations have already won lawsuits stopping "inside" linking of their material. Fusker is the ultimate inside linker.

                                                            Alex

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                                                            • RawAlex
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                              • 9465

                                                              #31
                                                              bump for those who missed it.

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                                                              • cambaby
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Feb 2003
                                                                • 3141

                                                                #32
                                                                Alex - Yeap I understand and respect that, so what about the threads here on GFY with people hotlinking images, this is fair use too?

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                                                                • RawAlex
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                  • 9465

                                                                  #33
                                                                  cambaby, a single image, by itself, can be construed as "fair use"... it is also clear that the intention of this chat board isn't to share huge amounts of content. They are presented as part and parcel of discussions. That being said, in very technical terms, they too are stealing from someone else.

                                                                  Fusker works by listing every single image from your site on a SINGLE webpage. It drives your server into the ground (imagine a gallery page with 30 pics @ 100k each... each visitor to the page on their site loads those 30 images at the same time (not the thumbs, the full size pics). Get 100 requests a minute (and fusker can generate that sort of traffic) and you are looking at 3000 * 100k bandwidth per minute - enough to bring many servers to their knees.

                                                                  Those images are presented out of context, no gallery wrapper, no way for the site owner to make money. All the site owner does is pay for a server and bandwidth so this roach can make money.

                                                                  Single images linked in the course of a chat board is a very grey area - and I have seen chat boards that allow users to post 100+ image links in a single post. It all comes down intent, when you think about it.

                                                                  Alex

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                                                                  • xclusive
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Apr 2004
                                                                    • 35218

                                                                    #34
                                                                    need to find a way to stop those fuckers for good

                                                                    I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


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                                                                    • Mutt
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                      • 34431

                                                                      #35
                                                                      somebody fuskered Ashley? i want pix!
                                                                      I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                                                                      • Mutt
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                        • 34431

                                                                        #36
                                                                        this is what those rascally fuskers get now http://www.wantongirls.com/hotlink.html
                                                                        I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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