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Affiliate Code Hijacking

06-05-2004, 01:26 PM

Affiliate Code Hijacking

Hello everyone...
I'm a full time webmaster doing all kinds of marketing.

I need someone to help me.

I feel that I am losing money due to Hijackers stealing my affiliate codes.

If you have any knowledge on this subject... let's talk... I have alot of info to share.

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06-05-2004, 01:27 PM

If they are stealing your affiliate codes, wouldn't you be getting paid for their signups?
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06-05-2004, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by YentaGirl
If they are stealing your affiliate codes, wouldn't you be getting paid for their signups?

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06-05-2004, 01:29 PM

This is one of those posts that makes you wonder if the original poster is even IN the business.
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06-05-2004, 01:31 PM

Originally posted by EviLGuY
This is one of those posts that makes you wonder if the original poster is even IN the business.

im sure they are. they have a hotmail email address

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06-05-2004, 01:35 PM

I sure wish someone would hijack my affiliate codes and promote it without my permission.

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06-05-2004, 01:53 PM

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06-05-2004, 01:55 PM

I've seen a scumware plugin that looks for affiliate code patterns in the URL and replaces the refcode with someone elses.

What do you want to know?

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06-05-2004, 01:55 PM

http://www.google.ca/search?sourceid...Code+Hijacking

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06-05-2004, 01:58 PM

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06-05-2004, 01:59 PM

looking for someone that this may have happened to...

or who has specific knowledge of how it works and the best way to combat it.

basically looking to network with other good webmasters.

already did prelim search on web, now looking to 'talk' to other webmasters.

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06-05-2004, 02:00 PM

just link to a .php instead, which redirects to sponsor
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06-05-2004, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by YentaGirl
If they are stealing your affiliate codes, wouldn't you be getting paid for their signups?
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06-05-2004, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by ibuydomains
just link to a .php instead, which redirects to sponsor

Doesn't matter - the ref code will still be replaced on the redirect.

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06-05-2004, 03:18 PM

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06-05-2004, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by leg4
Affiliate Code Hijacking

I feel that I am losing money due to Hijackers stealing my affiliate codes.

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Why do you think people are jacking your codes. Sounds to me like like you are tryin to find out how to do this
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06-05-2004, 03:35 PM

Why? because I've seen a noticable decrease in my bottom line over the past year.

Yet overall traffic is better than ever.

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06-05-2004, 03:37 PM

This sounds pretty scary stuff.
Why can´t you post your info here?
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06-05-2004, 03:38 PM

If porngraph adds affiliate changing code to their forced spyware we're all fucked.

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06-05-2004, 03:39 PM

this is a topic discussed heavily by mainstream affiliates but never in the adult side
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06-05-2004, 03:39 PM

that's exactly whats happening...

amazing how ignorant most people are on this subject in general.

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06-05-2004, 03:40 PM

this is a topic discussed heavily by mainstream affiliates but never in the adult side

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06-05-2004, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by Number1Thumb
this is a topic discussed heavily by mainstream affiliates but never in the adult side

I know i done mainstream for a long time time. thats why i am curious why he wnts to know this...
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06-05-2004, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by cluck
If porngraph adds affiliate changing code to their forced spyware we're all fucked.

I also thought about that. That would be fucked up, but I think there would have been lots of discussion already.
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06-05-2004, 04:09 PM

We have a major problem with this as well. Has anyone here used this?

http://www.affiliatelinkcloaker.com/

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06-05-2004, 04:12 PM

Buy you own domains and use them to to reditrect to your affilate code.

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06-05-2004, 04:22 PM

how would that work??

if the scumware is installed and is just chopping off your code?

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06-05-2004, 04:26 PM

All Ive heard the last few days on here is people whinging that there are not enough business posts on here any more.

This is why!!..... A guy asks a genuine business question and because most of you are too fucking stupid to understand the question you crap on him!!
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06-05-2004, 04:40 PM

Will this work?

To protect the affiliate links in your web site, and stop commission thieves in their tracks, you can disguise all of your affiliate links so they appear to be links to other pages within your site by creating a "redirection URL" for each of them. To do this, simply create a new web page that looks like this:

<HTML>
hahahahahaha>
hahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha="Refresh" CONTENT="0; URL=affiliate_url">
<TITLE></TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
</BODY>
</HTML>

Replace "affiliate_url" with your actual coded affiliate URL, and remove the periods at the beginning of each line that are used here for demonstration purposes. Now you will advertise your disguised affiliate links by directing visitors to your new URL:

http://www.yourdomainname.com/redirection_page.html

Until there is some kind of consensus and perhaps action taken on the issue, the best way to fight back against commission hijackers is to protect your site as best you can, and inform your affiliate partners of how thief-ware hurts the small companies and sites that help make the Internet great - and depend on their affiliate income to survive.

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06-05-2004, 04:49 PM

Yeah, I'm surprised at the number of adult webmasters who have no idea this scumware is out there.

For those of you who don't know, it basically works like an anti-virus program in that it scans source code before the browser displays it. Except this replaces affiliate codes with their own. It doesn't matter if you redirect sponsor traffic through another domain or hide it in a 1 second meta refresh.

Just a guess here, but I'm sure they likely target well-known sponsor programs instead of replacing all instances of "id=whatever" in the URL's since that usually doesn't involve affiliate codes.
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06-05-2004, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by Matt 26z
Yeah, I'm surprised at the number of adult webmasters who have no idea this scumware is out there.

For those of you who don't know, it basically works like an anti-virus program in that it scans source code before the browser displays it. Except this replaces affiliate codes with their own. It doesn't matter if you redirect sponsor traffic through another domain or hide it in a 1 second meta refresh.

Just a guess here, but I'm sure they likely target well-known sponsor programs instead of replacing all instances of "id=whatever" in the URL's since that usually doesn't involve affiliate codes.

They will also replace the code in the URL in the address field after the link is clicked.

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06-05-2004, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by kenny
Will this work?

To protect the affiliate links in your web site, and stop commission thieves in their tracks, you can disguise all of your affiliate links so they appear to be links to other pages within your site by creating a "redirection URL" for each of them. To do this, simply create a new web page that looks like this:

<HTML>
hahahahahaha>
hahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha="Refresh" CONTENT="0; URL=affiliate_url">
<TITLE></TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
</BODY>
</HTML>

Replace "affiliate_url" with your actual coded affiliate URL, and remove the periods at the beginning of each line that are used here for demonstration purposes. Now you will advertise your disguised affiliate links by directing visitors to your new URL:

http://www.yourdomainname.com/redirection_page.html

Until there is some kind of consensus and perhaps action taken on the issue, the best way to fight back against commission hijackers is to protect your site as best you can, and inform your affiliate partners of how thief-ware hurts the small companies and sites that help make the Internet great - and depend on their affiliate income to survive.

Im pretty sure the scumware will still pick up the link and and change it...

Remember your not trying to defeat IE.... so the common sense ways of dealing with this wont work
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06-05-2004, 04:53 PM

right Matt and Rick...

Any ideas on what we can do???

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06-05-2004, 04:55 PM

thanks Sambo for the backup...

can you recommend a board that has serious webmasters?

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06-05-2004, 04:55 PM

Can we redirect with .htaccess

Can it pick that up as well?

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06-05-2004, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by Rick Latona
They will also replace the code in the URL in the address field after the link is clicked.

Well if they do can that, then there is absolutely nothing we can do.

It has to be stopped at the local machine. Ounce in the browser URL address field it`s completely out of our hands.

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06-05-2004, 05:16 PM

you could do a php include.. i guess
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06-05-2004, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by TheMob?
you could do a php include.. i guess

How can any kind of script stop it if it is changed at the browser

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06-05-2004, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by TheMob?
you could do a php include.. i guess

No, because the PHP stuff happens before it even hits the surfers computer.
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06-05-2004, 05:25 PM

The only real way to combat this is on the sponsors end.

If they get an account that suddenly spikes in sales or a new one with a lot of them, then something may be up. A quick visit to some of the referring pages to see if their id is actually on those pages would catch this.
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06-05-2004, 05:27 PM

heres one easy way to get around it. Dont pass it around

One is to document write your urls like 'http://ww'+'w.mysponsor.com/ref'+'code=112'+'34'

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06-05-2004, 05:27 PM

Dont the people running the programs realize that a affilate gets their sales from stealing from other affilates?

I mean dont they see some guy setting there sending traffic from a million domains that arent his

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06-05-2004, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by cluck
If porngraph adds affiliate changing code to their forced spyware we're all fucked.

Not just that..
But others as well...

I was completely enraged by the auto load scam and many most all never even thought about this kinda shit or the possibilites, just note the ones standing around thinking it was "Smart marketing".

FUCKEN THIEVES, and stupid ones at that which only makes the possibility of Affiliate code switches even more likely in the future.

Switching at the core level of the end user can be found out however if/when it happens as I have no doubts whats so ever it will indeed happen.

Ya people thought shaving was bad, wait till you know your being shaved by the very software on end user's distributed by fuck heads no one should trust ever again in this industry.

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06-05-2004, 05:28 PM

Its really only the sponsors who can do anything about it by banning the affiliates responsable......

Bloody hard work for them though.... it would be a full time job

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06-05-2004, 05:30 PM

There should be laws agaisnt this!

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06-05-2004, 05:31 PM

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06-05-2004, 05:36 PM

Sambo have you found any evidence of this happening yet?

Ya goto remember on the auto load scam the fuck wad ran away on a "Vacation".

So there must be some agreement with scumware makers concerning "Sponsors" already to a degree.

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06-05-2004, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by titman
heres one easy way to get around it. Dont pass it around

One is to document write your urls like 'http://ww'+'w.mysponsor.com/ref'+'code=112'+'34'

Woudnt it depend on when the scumware was doing the hijacking?
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06-05-2004, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by kenny
There should be laws agaisnt this!

There is. It's called theft by taking. I promise you sponsors are getting ass raped at the major IPSP join pages. Other sponsors that own scumware are stealing the joins themselves. The ultimate answer lies within the IPSPs monitorring referring URLs and the Sponsors monitering joins as Sambo suggested.

I have my own solution which is to combat the scumware guys directly. I won't tell any of you what that is though. But it's war if you have a lot of traffic so bring a big army to the battle fiield.

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06-05-2004, 05:46 PM

does it surprise you that spyware builders are thieves?

how about them turning so many peoples computers unstable and useless, and scaring away surfers from the web? hurting all online businesses alltogether.

who is ever gonna have the balls to fight these scumbags?
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