The keys to your success as a TGP owner.

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • V_RocKs
    Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
    • Nov 2003
    • 32451

    #1

    The keys to your success as a TGP owner.

    Taken from a post I did as a reply to someone else.

    ---------------------------------------------
    Since your website has only 5k a day or less (I am figuring it is more like 800 - 1.5k hits a day - you should first try posting galleries. If you want to be someone in this business then you need to get one thing straight. YOU NEED TO WORK! You will see people like Juicylinks on here and he seems to just be a playboy and post fuckered art all day long. In reality he is working hard but can multitask. If you cannot do that, don't try it or you will never break out into something worth anything.

    Your road map? I'd first decide how much you can spend in a month to get the ball rolling. First, can you afford a dedicated server? If not then get virtual hosting with 200gigs minimum to start and I'd prefer you line up 500gigs.

    Second, signup with a shitload of sponsors. Find sponsors doing niches. Get one that has a website you would actually buy. Look into their subscription options. Would you buy it at $29.95 a month or would you just signup for the trial offer at $4.95 and then cancel? Is it a niche you share with your surfers? Do you think you can get them to be seduced by your gallery? If not, get out now....

    Now either create a good looking gallery with the content your sponsor provides or have someone make you a clean fresh one for $25-$35. Just ask here and a few will send you some (for a fee).

    Now get either Advanced Submitter or use Russian Submitter ($28 month) and post the gallery to everyone, then hand post a special stripped down version with no counter or hahahahahahahahahaha of any kind and only 3 or 4 out links to the big TGP's like theHun or Richards-Realm.

    If you don't get a major TGP but do get some of the minor leagues you should get 5,000 - 12,000 hits on the gallery a day. If it gets on even one major it can hit 5,000 - 50,000 hits in a day for just that one TGP (now you see why you need 500gigs a month of bandwidth).

    If you did get it on the majors or even one of them, find another decent group of content and make some more galleries and post those.

    Now check your stats. With TGP traffic expect 300:1 or as high as 2000:1 for signups. This meens you need 2000 people to go to the website from the link in your gallery. A decent gallery on Richards-Realm has done me with 5 signups for the day.

    Also when you make your gallery, make a table at the top with your recip in the first cell and the <recips> tag in the second cell. Then the recips that the submission program ads will always have you as numero uno. Doing this I have managed to get as much as 500 - 2000 hits in a day from my gallery posted to a large TGP.

    Now make a free site with those 2 galleries under your websites domain in a directory labelled as the name of the website you are selling and as the filename of the website you are selling. Then you can get some SE traffic to your website from this.

    Now do this daily. A month from now you should have 30 galleries posted, 15 free sites under your domain and 10k - 20k uniques to your website daily. Don't fuck with these people and update the website every day. As more and more bookmark you will be sitting pretty with 60k to 300k uniques.

    A year from now you should have 365 galleries and 182 free sites pulling a shitload of SE traffic.

    Good Day.
  • Manowar
    jellyfish  
    • Dec 2003
    • 71528

    #2
    Use new versions of great sponsors (sig) and new sponsors too, the best conversions around

    Comment

    • saamo
      Registered User
      • May 2004
      • 82

      #3
      Looks like a decent plan, however if you're going to follow this just make sure you read the rules for the big players like The Hun. For example: The Hun only wants one submission every 3 - 4 days. If you submitt a gallery there every day, you're just going to end up getting banned.
      - samo
      ICQ: 324 549 991

      Comment

      • MejOn
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2003
        • 332

        #4
        Good article!
        Thanks a lot
        SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

        Comment

        • Jmonk
          Confirmed User
          • May 2004
          • 115

          #5
          Thanks V, great info indeed ;)

          Comment

          • Tempest
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • May 2004
            • 10217

            #6
            DO NOT use an autosubmitter. If you're serious about making money with galleries than do your work and find 20-50 TGPs to hand submit to a day. You're really going to screw yourself otherwise, especially if you then go and try and do a traffic trade with all those sites you've been banned from.

            I've got a couple TGPs and I regularly ban people because they use auto-submitters and never check for updated rules/recips. I even wait a couple months before banning people for not following the rules.

            Lots of people are missing out on 10k-20k traffic a day to their galleries by being banned from my sites. And then if they try and signup for a trade, I either delete them or use some unfavorable settings for having wasted my time with their auto-submitted galleries.

            It only takes 1 bad gallery to piss off a WM and ruin your chances of doing more biz with them in the future. You may never even realize it's happened. So do everything you can to keep them happy with your galleries. You have to think long term to make some good money.

            Comment

            • crax2k
              Confirmed User
              • Sep 2003
              • 139

              #7
              Originally posted by V_RocKs
              Now make a free site with those 2 galleries under your websites domain in a directory labelled as the name of the website you are selling and as the filename of the website you are selling. Then you can get some SE traffic to your website from this.
              Can someone please explain this and maybe give a few examples of what to name the dirs and files? I just dont get it

              /Crax
              --
              Contact info:
              ICQ: 49820662
              Mail: [email protected]
              --
              I need hardlink trades for Free Quality Porn - msg. me on ICQ if interested!

              Comment

              • tdp-Cool-content
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2002
                • 321

                #8
                anybody have a list of good search engien and indexes to submit to ?
                Webmaster Content Cool-content

                Webmaster Resources cool-XXXresources

                Comment

                • Brad138
                  Registered User
                  • May 2004
                  • 33

                  #9
                  Hey guys, thanks for all the tips. You really make live much simpler for us newbies. Good luck to you all.
                  SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

                  Comment

                  • Need2Know
                    Registered User
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 60

                    #10
                    Try to minimalize the usage of the Autosubmitters...

                    The more done "by hand" - especially when dealing with the guys from the "upper shelf" - the better... Especially when You plan to stay long in this biz and grow...
                    The Best Adult Sponsor Ever ! Many Fresh Sites With GREAT Conversions, Free Hosting & Content, Hosted Galleries & MUCH MORE !

                    Comment

                    • tml
                      Registered User
                      • May 2004
                      • 13

                      #11
                      Anyone have a list of the top TGP's (that should be hand submitted to)

                      Maby the top 20-50 ?

                      Comment

                      • Tempest
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • May 2004
                        • 10217

                        #12
                        Originally posted by tml
                        Anyone have a list of the top TGP's (that should be hand submitted to)

                        Maby the top 20-50 ?
                        Go on sextracker and sexlist and start going through the top 100-200 on each. When you visit the TGPs/MGPs look at what sites are in their top lists.

                        Comment

                        • ifny
                          Registered User
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 32

                          #13
                          yeah, great. I wish there were more posts like this

                          Comment

                          • heywood
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 468

                            #14
                            This is a great post with some solid information. I have been doing this same thing for over a year now, and doing great.

                            A word about autosubmitters. One method you could do is, go through the list of the sites they submit to. Pull out all the big ones, and put them into G.A.S.S. or your bookmark list to hand submit. All the smaller TGPs that you don't care much about, use the autosubmitter with them. All the little ones add up pretty nicely sometimes.

                            Comment

                            • Ordo
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 1186

                              #15
                              Very good info here.

                              I too would like to find a solid list of TGP's or Linkdumps to bookmark and use.
                              Savor Premium Affiliate Area Here

                              Comment

                              • saamo
                                Registered User
                                • May 2004
                                • 82

                                #16
                                I'm in the process of building a custom database of big tgps for advanced submitter . In the coming weeks I'll have a few good test runs with it finished up and I'll post the results. If you guys like the results, I'll consider trading or selling the database. (If I sell it, it'll be cheap - I'm not an ass but making a custom one takes time.)
                                - samo
                                ICQ: 324 549 991

                                Comment

                                • Tempest
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • May 2004
                                  • 10217

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by saamo
                                  I'm in the process of building a custom database of big tgps for advanced submitter . In the coming weeks I'll have a few good test runs with it finished up and I'll post the results. If you guys like the results, I'll consider trading or selling the database. (If I sell it, it'll be cheap - I'm not an ass but making a custom one takes time.)
                                  Can you give me a list of your domains so I can just ban them ahead of time. Thanks.

                                  Comment

                                  • juicylinks
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Apr 2001
                                    • 122992

                                    #18
                                    good post

                                    Comment

                                    • pxtreme75
                                      Registered User
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 97

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Tempest
                                      Can you give me a list of your domains so I can just ban them ahead of time. Thanks.
                                      I'm pretty sure you don't know how AdvancedSubmitter operates Tempest. Is a tool to help people submit galleries and have more time concentrate on what is more important TO YOU - produce quality galleries.

                                      Its more possible that someone gets banned inf handsubmit then if he use AdvancedSubmitter. Why is that? because as a human being is really easy to make a mistake, than having a program fill the form for you.

                                      If you check it out you will see that the submission page is there for the webmaster to see and read all of your rules. So, don't blame the tool ... its there to help people, not a spam machine.
                                      AdvancedSubmitter - Best Submission Tool
                                      FastTGPBuilder - Autobuild and Autoupdate your niche TGP/MGP. Check it today!

                                      Comment

                                      • Tempest
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • May 2004
                                        • 10217

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by pxtreme75
                                        I'm pretty sure you don't know how AdvancedSubmitter operates Tempest. Is a tool to help people submit galleries and have more time concentrate on what is more important TO YOU - produce quality galleries.

                                        Its more possible that someone gets banned inf handsubmit then if he use AdvancedSubmitter. Why is that? because as a human being is really easy to make a mistake, than having a program fill the form for you.

                                        If you check it out you will see that the submission page is there for the webmaster to see and read all of your rules. So, don't blame the tool ... its there to help people, not a spam machine.
                                        As taken from the feature list from your site:

                                        "Semi auto and COMPLETE AUTOSUBMIT MODES
                                        Although AdvancedSubmitter is built to help you increase the manual submission speed it CAN ALSO BE USED TO AUTOSUBMIT. You may select the sites that should be autosubmitted and you can watch in real time how the submission process progress."

                                        THAT'S what makes it a spam machine. I didn't blame the tool, I'm telling people to actually do their job and hand submit. Your tool just makes it really easy for lazy people and cheaters to spam galleries. Maybe you could actually think of ways to be part of the solution instead of part of the problem.

                                        I don't have an issue with honest WMs using them. In fact lots of my long term submitters use tools like that. However, any newbie that honestly thinks auto-submitting is the road to success will be sorely disapointed. They need to manually submit until they've built up some credibility.

                                        Comment

                                        • boyw_utr
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 310

                                          #21
                                          Great Thread, I just finished my new tgp
                                          and will follow a part of this plan.
                                          I prefer Hand submitting galleries myself
                                          SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

                                          Comment

                                          • WebMartin
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Apr 2004
                                            • 195

                                            #22
                                            Thanks for tips

                                            Comment

                                            • saamo
                                              Registered User
                                              • May 2004
                                              • 82

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Tempest
                                              Can you give me a list of your domains so I can just ban them ahead of time. Thanks.
                                              I use Advanced Submitter to 'assisted submit' my galleries... which is basically something like: double click the site name, make sure are the fields were filled in correctly, hit 'submit' or 'post gallery' or whatever, then wait for the words 'submission recieved' or something along those lines. And, unlike a lot of people, I read the rules for the tgps I'm adding to my database,. Besides, like I said in another thread... a lot of the TGPs you can autosubmit to, aren't worth submitting to.

                                              If I ever do use it for autosubmission, it'll be for a database of tgps that are smaller and won't send a considerable amount of traffic to my galleries. Sound like one of your tgps?
                                              - samo
                                              ICQ: 324 549 991

                                              Comment

                                              Working...