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Old 03-15-2005, 01:00 AM  
shermo
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Originally Posted by chodadog
You don't know shit about Ireland. You are obviously not familiar with the war of independence, and are obviously not familiar with the current political landscape. Only 6 of the 32 counties of Ireland remain under British control. You do know that the Irish actually won the Anglo-Irish war, right? A peace treaty was struck with the English by Michael Collins whereby England got to keep six of the 9 counties of Ulster which became Northern Ireland. Collins basically betrayed the republican cause and sold out to the British. de Valera was none too happy about this and wanted to keep fighting and free all of Ireland. This led to the Irish civil war, but de Valera's forces had no chance as Collins' forces were supplied with British weapons and were vastly outnumbered. So yes, part of Ireland is still under British rule, but their grip is loosening with every passing year.

Northern Ireland will have a devolved government within 2 years, and support for nationalist parties is growing steadily and has been for years. Ireland will be united and free within the next 20 or 30 years. Rampant with terrorism? Terrorism is not an issue any more. The big issue now is criminality. The various paramilitaries (Whether they be republican; IRA, INLA, or unionist; UDA, UVF, RHC, etc) are now basically criminal organisations involved in the drug trade and racketeering. Killings are usually "internal" matters or issues between paramilitaries. Innocents are killed from time to time, but it does not amount to terrorism. You're about 10 years behind in your thinking.

Here's an interesting read about international alcohol consumpion. It's interesting to note that the statistics that suggest Ireland has high alcohol consumption are the studies where Ireland was lumped in with the Scotland, England and Wales.

http://www.niaaa.nih.gov/publication...7-1/95-109.htm





Do you even know the reason for the massive influx of Irish to america in the mid 1800's? I am guessing not. Ever hear of the potato famine? Most people don't realise the potato problem was not something that was limited to Ireland. It was happening all over the world and actually started in North Carolina. Crops all over the world were failing. Ireland was the only place where it lead to famine and massive deaths. 2 million people out of the population of 8 million died because of the potato famine, just so you know. Twenty five percent of the fucking population, and you wonder why people wanted to get the fuck out of the country? And who's fault was it that so many people died in Ireland, and not in all the other places effected by the failing potato crops? It was the fault of the British.

Contrary to popular belief, potatoes were not the only crop that Ireland were producing. Potatoes just happened to be the only crop that British landlords would allow their Irish feudal tenants to eat and feed to their livestock. The other major crops being grown in Ireland were corn, wheat, barley and oats. Under the British free trade policy, all of these crops were being exported. When the potato famine occurred, this did not change. They continued to export every viable crop while 1.5 million Irish starved to death. Another half million died trying to emigrate across the Atlantic.

Oh, and what about the excess crops that the British were unable to sell? The British didn't want to disturb the markets, so this food was simply left in storage. There was a no welfare policy in place. Over a million lives could have been saved had it not been for the greed of the British.

You don't know shit. Stick your rant up your arse.
I didn't go as in depth as you, but you elaborated on my response. Thanks a lot, bro!

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