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will domain names become obsolete?

03-12-2005, 08:32 AM

As in 10 years from now we would say "you had to go to www name extension to visit something called webpages"..

What will replace it? Or is the domain name system something that will stay here for 50 years to come just like phonenumbers?
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03-12-2005, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by mrthumbs

As in 10 years from now we would say "you had to go to www name extension to visit something called webpages"..

What will replace it? Or is the domain name system something that will stay here for 50 years to come just like phonenumbers?

I think they will be around for quite awhile... icann and the big guys put too much time/work/effort into building the system and now they are doing more to protect identities, etc...

Then again... will the world be here in 10 years? Will you die tomorrow? Who the hell knows buddy.
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03-12-2005, 08:35 AM

Yeah but 50 years from now there wont be an internet, it will be replaced by something elce. So the internt will become obsolete.

Ok, so i answered your question. What do i win?

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03-12-2005, 08:36 AM

Domain names will be forever
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03-12-2005, 08:36 AM

Domain names will stay as long as your computer requires a keyboard and a mouse. When computers cease to require both devices, expect domain names to dry anytime soon. But for now, I like having keyboards and my pen mouse so.. domain names fading won't be anytime soon.

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03-12-2005, 08:37 AM

there like phone numbers there not goin anywhere
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03-12-2005, 08:38 AM

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03-12-2005, 08:38 AM

I think the biggest changes in the near future will be in the extensions.
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03-12-2005, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by Manansala

Domain names will stay as long as your computer requires a keyboard and a mouse. When computers cease to require both devices, expect domain names to dry anytime soon. But for now, I like having keyboards and my pen mouse so.. domain names fading won't be anytime soon.

Pen mouse? Is that thing annoying... I couldn't imagine picking up a damn pen everything i wanted to click on something.
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03-12-2005, 08:38 AM

Who remembers AOL Keywords?
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03-12-2005, 08:41 AM

.com is a stupid extension when you think about it. Funny how it ended up like this. I think we will see a major change around 2012-2015. Don't know what, but I think .com will lose its value. I don't buy this 'it's prime real-estate' crap... It's just a very very very long fad, but it will be phased out somehow. Remember this thread (check it in 2012 on web://gofuckyourself ).

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03-12-2005, 08:41 AM

it will neat too see what the Internet turns into in 10 years.
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03-12-2005, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by Sosa

it will neat too see what the Internet turns into in 10 years.

i don't think the internet will evolve that fast as it did few years ago

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03-12-2005, 08:51 AM

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Yeah but 50 years from now there wont be an internet, it will be replaced by something elce. So the internt will become obsolete.

Ok, so i answered your question. What do i win?

Damn college is paying off, i feel smart.

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well I dont think it will become obsolete but might have big changes!
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03-12-2005, 08:56 AM

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No worries, when everything evolves, you'll be there... if you're still alive. In any case, your spirit will stay with us.

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03-12-2005, 08:59 AM

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Pen mouse? Is that thing annoying... I couldn't imagine picking up a damn pen everything i wanted to click on something.

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03-12-2005, 09:00 AM

It will go the same way IPv4 is...
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03-12-2005, 09:05 AM

there like phone numbers there not goin anywhere

Correct. The biggest change with be in technology. That is, how people access it. You will probably see some form of phone/cable/internet/movies/video games more accessible and widely used that today. Something both in equipment, and software but that's about it.

I think that in terms of this industry, you will see more merging of companies, and a mirror of what goes on in the real world where most of the porn starts to become controlled by conglomerates, squeezing out the small fries.

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03-12-2005, 12:03 PM

bump for a good thread

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03-12-2005, 12:30 PM

With the Internet there is always going to be room for the little guy. It's where the industry is going right now (mainstream and adult) -people are starting niches of existing products and then microniches of those niches.

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03-12-2005, 03:42 PM

800 toll-free numbers have existed for around 35 years and yet they're still highly sought - companies desiring an easy to remember vanity 800 number (and/or 888), even in the age of the net, will pay top-dollar for it - many folks still use the phone - and on top of that, many on-line businesses are finding that the phone is as important as ever for business.

With all that said ... yes, things change, but often no where near as quick as one might expect ... the current domain name system has been around for 20 years already. I, for one, can safely predict that domain names, as they exist today, will remain viable for at least another 15 years - there's nothing else out there that even comes close to performing the same function as domain names - keywords are dead, search engines are increasingly becoming diluted (customized search results, once fully implemented, will kill many businesses that rely on top positioning in SEs), ppc is expensive/limited, etc ... and thus high quality domain names is the ideal way to drive traffic whenever possible ... even for folks with with great SE rankings, etc ... they should still have an easy domain name if they seek repeat traffic/word of mouth promotion.

In a nutshell, domain names will remain viable for the foreseeable future, since there's nothing else out there on the horizon to replace their function.

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03-12-2005, 03:43 PM

domains are like icq. never going any fucking where.

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03-12-2005, 03:53 PM

Its scary to even think how things will be in 10 years let alone 50 (most of us will be alive by then tho)
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03-12-2005, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by mrthumbs

As in 10 years from now we would say "you had to go to www name extension to visit something called webpages"..

What will replace it? Or is the domain name system something that will stay here for 50 years to come just like phonenumbers?

It would take a MASSIVE standards shift to get that off the ground. Very politically difficult too, as exemplified the difficulty re email standards for antispam prevention.

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03-12-2005, 03:56 PM

The sky is falling ! Sell all your elite names to me for $100 each ! Get out while the gettin is good !

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03-12-2005, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by azguy

.com is a stupid extension when you think about it. Funny how it ended up like this. I think we will see a major change around 2012-2015. Don't know what, but I think .com will lose its value. I don't buy this 'it's prime real-estate' crap... It's just a very very very long fad, but it will be phased out somehow. Remember this thread (check it in 2012 on web://gofuckyourself ).

thats allready happening
LIke AOL keywords
And in FF it takes you to the first google result

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03-12-2005, 04:05 PM

we will all soon be typing 125 char ip's in hex decimal

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03-12-2005, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

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Same here, it would really hurt me bad, my domains are valued more than the value of homes in Los Angeles.

but seriously domains are like real estate, they will be here for the rest of our lives, because how else would you visit a certain site?
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03-12-2005, 04:07 PM

I think domains will be around for awhile. The net is still so young and many domains still haven't realized their potential.
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03-12-2005, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by azguy

.com is a stupid extension when you think about it. Funny how it ended up like this. I think we will see a major change around 2012-2015. Don't know what, but I think .com will lose its value. I don't buy this 'it's prime real-estate' crap... It's just a very very very long fad, but it will be phased out somehow. Remember this thread (check it in 2012 on web://gofuckyourself ).

very long fad? lol, thats the funniest thing I have ever heard. My house in Los ANgeles is a fad also.
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03-12-2005, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by Alex

thats allready happening
LIke AOL keywords
And in FF it takes you to the first google result

Yep, keywords will be back around that time (I wonder who'd be the managing authority), which will make .coms pointless.
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03-12-2005, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by triumph

very long fad? lol, thats the funniest thing I have ever heard. My house in Los ANgeles is a fad also.

Ooh, house in Los Angeles. Must be very proud.

It doesn't mean you can't make a fortune from it, I'm just saying that I think it will be phased out and we will be introduced to a different protocol. I think the keywords system will be back. I'm also making money thanks to freakin .coms, but it doesn't stop me from facing the reality that it won't be here forever.
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03-12-2005, 04:13 PM

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Ooh, house in Los Angeles. Must be very proud.

I am since my house in LA is worth 5 times that of the one I have in Scottsdale .
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03-12-2005, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by triumph

Same here, it would really hurt me bad, my domains are valued more than the value of homes in Los Angeles.

but seriously domains are like real estate, they will be here for the rest of our lives, because how else would you visit a certain site?

It's a freaking http protocol, you keep forgetting that. A new one will be introduced eventually... Hopefully you will cash out before that happens
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03-12-2005, 04:16 PM

10 years... I think, before www domain ext, we will say "protocol"

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03-12-2005, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by triumph

I am since my house in LA is worth 5 times that of the one I have in Scottsdale .

And how much did the arrogance cost you? and which version did you get?
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03-12-2005, 04:20 PM

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And how much did the arrogance cost you? and which version did you get?

It aint arrogance, its just the way I am!

either way if you think companies like Google, Yahoo, and so forth are going to let .coms be obsolete you're smoking some good shit.
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03-12-2005, 04:22 PM

I think that the SE's and the Net will be so big, that everything will work like an auto fill in form. as soon as you start to type. or maybe speak, with will start moving that way.

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03-12-2005, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by triumph

It aint arrogance, its just the way I am!

either way if you think companies like Google, Yahoo, and so forth are going to let .coms be obsolete you're smoking some good shit.

They won't be able to control it, it'll just be the freaking protocol that will become more and more popular. Hey, this is just my estimate, nothing more than that. Might happen, might not. In 12 years from now we'll freakin tell the computer 'bank of america' and our account will pop up. .coms might still be used, but they will have much less value.

EDIT: we will live in a world of "I'm Feeling Lucky" (just like Google's idea of how it works), which is similar to the Keywords approach used long ago.

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03-12-2005, 04:23 PM

[QUOTE=azguy]Ooh, house in Los Angeles. Must be very proud.

To be perfectly honest with you a regular house in los angeles is equal to a phat house where you live in arizona. Real Estate is prime here in los angeles, and your laughing about it, that goes to show how much you know.Idiot alert here
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03-12-2005, 04:26 PM

[QUOTE=axelcat]

Originally posted by azguy

Ooh, house in Los Angeles. Must be very proud.

To be perfectly honest with you a regular house in los angeles is equal to a phat house where you live in arizona. Real Estate is prime here in los angeles, and your laughing about it, that goes to show how much you know.Idiot alert here

I know what Los Angeles is like, you idiot. I meant to be sarcastic about how he threw that house of his in to the conversation. And yeah, it probably is worth more.

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03-12-2005, 04:28 PM

Corporations have invested massive amounts of money in branding domains. You have way too much money on the table now for anything to change anytime soon.

The major threat however is not changing the domain system, but impacting it with regulations and taxation and changed cost factors.

For example it could be a disaster for domain owners under these scenarios:

1. Domains become valued on a tax appraisal system like real estate. Legislation gets passed lets say that requires domain owners to pay "property taxes" on top of their annual reg fees. Imagine the annual property tax bite on someone who has thousands of valuable domains.

2. Annual reg fees get changed from uniform fees to fees based on the estimated assessed value of the domain.

3. You are no longer allowed to own a primary domain and just sit on it and send it to a PPC type deal. All domains have to be developed into functioning sites related to the theme of the domain.

See my point? Its the politicians and the lawyers that could really make things unprofitable fast.

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03-12-2005, 04:28 PM

[QUOTE=azguy]

Originally posted by axelcat

I know what Los Angeles is you idiot. I meant to be sarcastic about how he threw that house of his in to the conversation. And yeah, it probably is worth more.
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03-12-2005, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by KRL

Corporations have invested massive amounts of money in branding domains. You have way too much money on the table now for anything to change anytime soon.

The major threat however is not changing the domain system, but impacting it with regulations and taxation and changed cost factors.

For example it could be a disaster for domain owners under these scenarios:

1. Domains become valued on a tax appraisal system like real estate. Legislation gets passed lets say that requires domain owners to pay "property taxes" on top of their annual reg fees. Imagine the annual property tax bite on someone who has thousands of valuable domains.

2. Annual reg fees get changed from uniform fees to fees based on the estimated assessed value of the domain.

3. You are no longer allowed to own a primary domain and just sit on it and send it to a PPC type deal. All domains have to be developed into functioning sites related to the theme of the domain.

See my point? Its the politicians and the lawyers that could really make things unprofitable fast.

I agree, those scenarios can happen. Whatever it is, something will force a new protocol.. We're sitting on an old mechanism as it is. A company like Google has enough power to force its own protocol, making it easier to access broadband content, on-demand software, etc.
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03-12-2005, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by KRL

Corporations have invested massive amounts of money in branding domains. You have way too much money on the table now for anything to change anytime soon.

The major threat however is not changing the domain system, but impacting it with regulations and taxation and changed cost factors.

For example it could be a disaster for domain owners under these scenarios:

1. Domains become valued on a tax appraisal system like real estate. Legislation gets passed lets say that requires domain owners to pay "property taxes" on top of their annual reg fees. Imagine the annual property tax bite on someone who has thousands of valuable domains.

2. Annual reg fees get changed from uniform fees to fees based on the estimated assessed value of the domain.

3. You are no longer allowed to own a primary domain and just sit on it and send it to a PPC type deal. All domains have to be developed into functioning sites related to the theme of the domain.

See my point? Its the politicians and the lawyers that could really make things unprofitable fast.

Number 1 and 2 could hurt alot, especially a tax system like property taxes, wow some scary stuff KRL.
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03-12-2005, 04:34 PM

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03-12-2005, 04:44 PM

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03-12-2005, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by KRL

Corporations have invested massive amounts of money in branding domains. You have way too much money on the table now for anything to change anytime soon.

The major threat however is not changing the domain system, but impacting it with regulations and taxation and changed cost factors.

For example it could be a disaster for domain owners under these scenarios:

1. Domains become valued on a tax appraisal system like real estate. Legislation gets passed lets say that requires domain owners to pay "property taxes" on top of their annual reg fees. Imagine the annual property tax bite on someone who has thousands of valuable domains.

2. Annual reg fees get changed from uniform fees to fees based on the estimated assessed value of the domain.

3. You are no longer allowed to own a primary domain and just sit on it and send it to a PPC type deal. All domains have to be developed into functioning sites related to the theme of the domain.

See my point? Its the politicians and the lawyers that could really make things unprofitable fast.

very good and valid points.. however dont underestimate the power of hte people. It werent big corporations that created the internet.. actually they adapted/took advantage of it years too late.

The users of the internet (from the tech beginners, to the tech savvy home users to the masses right now) gave big coroporations the opportunity to exploit the internet in a commercial way. I think they also have the power to take that away from them. If a new system kicks in or an interface other than the www that appeals mroe to the initial motivation why people liked the Net: i dont think billiondollar commercial budgets have much power.

Actuaklly.. i think the restrictions applied by lawyers and politics as you mentioned will take the true nature of the Net away (the free wild west) and
create opportunties for new media to take over the net as we know it.

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03-12-2005, 07:30 PM

i want the internet to be like it is in jonny mnuemonic(sp) Watched that this morning. good movie.
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03-12-2005, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by Ron Bennett

800 toll-free numbers have existed for around 35 years and yet they're still highly sought - companies desiring an easy to remember vanity 800 number (and/or 888), even in the age of the net, will pay top-dollar for it - many folks still use the phone - and on top of that, many on-line businesses are finding that the phone is as important as ever for business.

With all that said ... yes, things change, but often no where near as quick as one might expect ... the current domain name system has been around for 20 years already. I, for one, can safely predict that domain names, as they exist today, will remain viable for at least another 15 years - there's nothing else out there that even comes close to performing the same function as domain names - keywords are dead, search engines are increasingly becoming diluted (customized search results, once fully implemented, will kill many businesses that rely on top positioning in SEs), ppc is expensive/limited, etc ... and thus high quality domain names is the ideal way to drive traffic whenever possible ... even for folks with with great SE rankings, etc ... they should still have an easy domain name if they seek repeat traffic/word of mouth promotion.

In a nutshell, domain names will remain viable for the foreseeable future, since there's nothing else out there on the horizon to replace their function.

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