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  • jawanda
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2003
    • 6040
    #1

    PPC Finally Working Like It Should

    I've always thought that if visitors are clicking on a link that says "Credit Card Required... bla bla bla" my conversion ratio should be great. They know they need a cc before they even get to the page, how could they be freeloading?

    But until now, my PPC conversation ratios have not been stellar, in fact I was just breaking even.


    UNTIL NOW - Finally found a good smaller PPC engine, and although it takes a little longer to get the traffic, it's converting like a mother fucker.

    1:105

    $37 spent, $160 grossed.

    Can't complain about that, just got to get more keywords and make the traffic come a bit quicker.

    How do you guys convert with PPC?

    -p
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    • VeriSexy
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      • Apr 2002
      • 25463
      #2
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        • WiredGuy
          Pounding Googlebot
          • Aug 2002
          • 34517
          #3
          Congrats, PPC is definitely a solid business model once you can perfect your niche and get it working right. Now wanna share which PPC engine that was

          WG
          I play with Google.

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            • jawanda
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2003
              • 6040
              #4
              Originally posted by WiredGuy
              Congrats, PPC is definitely a solid business model once you can perfect your niche and get it working right. Now wanna share which PPC engine that was

              WG
              Lemme check if they have a referral program, brb ;)

              -p

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                • stev0
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 6801
                  #5
                  Sweet deal, let me guess... kanoodle?

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                    • Furious_Male
                      Doing the grind since 99
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 16884
                      #6
                      Sounds like you have a little gem of an engine. Do share
                      Living in Virtual Reality
                      Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

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                        • WiredGuy
                          Pounding Googlebot
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 34517
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Furious_Male
                          Sounds like you have a little gem of an engine. Do share
                          How did I know you'd be in here
                          WG
                          I play with Google.

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                            • Furious_Male
                              Doing the grind since 99
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 16884
                              #8
                              Originally posted by WiredGuy
                              How did I know you'd be in here
                              WG
                              The same reason you are. I felt the thread from the other room
                              Living in Virtual Reality
                              Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

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                                • WiredGuy
                                  Pounding Googlebot
                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 34517
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by jawanda
                                  Lemme check if they have a referral program, brb ;)

                                  -p
                                  Do tell, I'll use your ref code if they have.
                                  WG
                                  I play with Google.

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                                    • calmlikeabomb
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2004
                                      • 1323
                                      #10
                                      I love those great finds

                                      I do this all the time. The secret is don't tell anyone wouldn't want things to become over saturated now would we

                                      It's great being able to spend $30 and gross +$200
                                      subarus.

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                                        • WiredGuy
                                          Pounding Googlebot
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 34517
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Furious_Male
                                          The same reason you are. I felt the thread from the other room
                                          LOL
                                          I play with Google.

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                                            • Furious_Male
                                              Doing the grind since 99
                                              • Oct 2003
                                              • 16884
                                              #12
                                              Ok Jawanda is going to make us wait. I will ctrl-d this and sign up under your ref as well if its an engine I am not currently using.

                                              How is the volume looking from the PPC engines for you tonite WG? Down around 30% for me tonite.
                                              Living in Virtual Reality
                                              Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

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                                                • WiredGuy
                                                  Pounding Googlebot
                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 34517
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Furious_Male
                                                  Ok Jawanda is going to make us wait. I will ctrl-d this and sign up under your ref as well if its an engine I am not currently using.

                                                  How is the volume looking from the PPC engines for you tonite WG? Down around 30% for me tonite.
                                                  Conversions or traffic is down for you?
                                                  Yesterday was one of my best Overture days but Google/Findwhat has been down the last few days. Go figure.

                                                  WG
                                                  I play with Google.

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                                                    • wdsguy
                                                      Ryde or Die
                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                      • 19568
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                      Congrats, PPC is definitely a solid business model once you can perfect your niche and get it working right. Now wanna share which PPC engine that was

                                                      WG
                                                      Any tips for a PPC newbie on finding a good niche of keywords within a certain category to target?

                                                      thanks

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                                                        • jawanda
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                          • 6040
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by wdsguy
                                                          Any tips for a PPC newbie on finding a good niche of keywords within a certain category to target?

                                                          thanks
                                                          Most PPC engines have keyword finder tools, where you can type in a general word like "Amateurs" and it will tell you the top search terms that contain that word.

                                                          Other standard rules, state the price in your ad in order to minimize worthless clicks, and keep it as relevent as possible.

                                                          WG, I know you're the expert, why don't you give us all some tips?

                                                          BTW, The PPC I'm using DOES have a referral program, but I have to wait for my account to be 'approved' before I get credit. I've got this thread bookmarked and I'll post the link as soon as I get approved.

                                                          -P

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                                                            • wdsguy
                                                              Ryde or Die
                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                              • 19568
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by jawanda
                                                              Most PPC engines have keyword finder tools, where you can type in a general word like "Amateurs" and it will tell you the top search terms that contain that word.

                                                              Other standard rules, state the price in your ad in order to minimize worthless clicks, and keep it as relevent as possible.

                                                              WG, I know you're the expert, why don't you give us all some tips?

                                                              BTW, The PPC I'm using DOES have a referral program, but I have to wait for my account to be 'approved' before I get credit. I've got this thread bookmarked and I'll post the link as soon as I get approved.

                                                              -P
                                                              thanks for the help, I got this thread bookmarked too. What about in terms of how much to pay for keywords, any general guidelines for that?

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                                                                • WiredGuy
                                                                  Pounding Googlebot
                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                  • 34517
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by wdsguy
                                                                  Any tips for a PPC newbie on finding a good niche of keywords within a certain category to target?

                                                                  thanks

                                                                  Definitely start with a small niche that you can achieve high ROI. For example, start with squirting pussies or hairy girls. These small micro-niches can get you a better ROI than teens or mature or hardcore. From there, you can start tweaking your advertising to increase your ROI. Once you've tested out a few campaigns with a couple PPC engines, you can start to expand into bigger niches.

                                                                  If you have specific questions, let me know and I'll do my best to answer them.

                                                                  WG
                                                                  I play with Google.

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                                                                    • 69pornlinks
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                      • 5560
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                      Yesterday was one of my best Overture days but Google/Findwhat has been down the last few days. Go figure.

                                                                      WG
                                                                      How's findwhat overall, i just didn't want to jump thru hurdles for them, they wanted me to verify i was an adult to use adult keywords. i figure it was a waste of time.
                                                                      It IS what it IS

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                                                                        • Furious_Male
                                                                          Doing the grind since 99
                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                          • 16884
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                          Conversions or traffic is down for you?
                                                                          Yesterday was one of my best Overture days but Google/Findwhat has been down the last few days. Go figure.

                                                                          WG
                                                                          Conversions are about the same. Traffic has really dropped with Findwhat even on "free" terms.
                                                                          Living in Virtual Reality
                                                                          Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

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                                                                            • WiredGuy
                                                                              Pounding Googlebot
                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                              • 34517
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by 69pornlinks
                                                                              How's findwhat overall, i just didn't want to jump thru hurdles for them, they wanted me to verify i was an adult to use adult keywords. i figure it was a waste of time.
                                                                              Get in contact with a sales rep, I have a sales rep there I contact whenever I add a new campaign and he expediates everything for me without any hassles. Their editors are a hassle but once you're approved, it's clear sailing from there. The 5c minimums are a bit of a hassle, but I like their keyword matching tool they added a few weeks ago. Makes it easier to get more keywords covered by your bids (similiar to Overture's matching tool).

                                                                              WG
                                                                              I play with Google.

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                                                                                • WiredGuy
                                                                                  Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                  • 34517
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Furious_Male
                                                                                  Conversions are about the same. Traffic has really dropped with Findwhat even on "free" terms.
                                                                                  You're right, I'm looking at my accounts now and only one of them has high traffic, the rest seem rather low.

                                                                                  WG
                                                                                  I play with Google.

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                                                                                    • Martin
                                                                                      "Assassins"
                                                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                                                      • 17274
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      There is a couple of PPC SE's out there that are gold mines.

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                                                                                        • 69pornlinks
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                          • 5560
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                          Get in contact with a sales rep, I have a sales rep there I contact whenever I add a new campaign and he expediates everything for me without any hassles. Their editors are a hassle but once you're approved, it's clear sailing from there. The 5c minimums are a bit of a hassle, but I like their keyword matching tool they added a few weeks ago. Makes it easier to get more keywords covered by your bids (similiar to Overture's matching tool).

                                                                                          WG
                                                                                          will do, thanks
                                                                                          It IS what it IS

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                                                                                            • bhutocracy
                                                                                              Not making A Comeback
                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                              • 10218
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              anyone know any good ppc se's with geo targetting? besidse adwords i mean.
                                                                                              Last edited by bhutocracy; 05-30-2004, 06:42 PM.

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                                                                                                • wdsguy
                                                                                                  Ryde or Die
                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                                  • 19568
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                  Definitely start with a small niche that you can achieve high ROI. For example, start with squirting pussies or hairy girls. These small micro-niches can get you a better ROI than teens or mature or hardcore. From there, you can start tweaking your advertising to increase your ROI. Once you've tested out a few campaigns with a couple PPC engines, you can start to expand into bigger niches.

                                                                                                  If you have specific questions, let me know and I'll do my best to answer them.

                                                                                                  WG
                                                                                                  thanks for the tips :-)

                                                                                                  Do you have any suggestions in terms of picking out keywords? I am just checking out the different tools provided by overture and google to find keywords for now that are not saturated. also I am abit confused on how to determine how much to bid for on keywords.

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                                                                                                    • jawanda
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                      • 6040
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by wdsguy
                                                                                                      thanks for the tips :-)

                                                                                                      Do you have any suggestions in terms of picking out keywords? I am just checking out the different tools provided by overture and google to find keywords for now that are not saturated. also I am abit confused on how to determine how much to bid for on keywords.

                                                                                                      You just need to look at what other people are bidding, and decide where you want to be in the listings.

                                                                                                      Depending on the engine, get yourself in the top ten then see how the traffic is. If it's adequate and it converts, up your bids and get yourself into the top three.

                                                                                                      When you are paying too much and it's not profitable, obviously you will need to adjust your bids as well as your listings.

                                                                                                      I'm no expert, but I can tell you, it takes some time and patience (and $$) to find a good balance.

                                                                                                      -P

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                                                                                                        • wdsguy
                                                                                                          Ryde or Die
                                                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                                                          • 19568
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by jawanda
                                                                                                          You just need to look at what other people are bidding, and decide where you want to be in the listings.

                                                                                                          Depending on the engine, get yourself in the top ten then see how the traffic is. If it's adequate and it converts, up your bids and get yourself into the top three.

                                                                                                          When you are paying too much and it's not profitable, obviously you will need to adjust your bids as well as your listings.

                                                                                                          I'm no expert, but I can tell you, it takes some time and patience (and $$) to find a good balance.

                                                                                                          -P

                                                                                                          Thanks for the tip bro

                                                                                                          Do you stay away from keywords with free in it? I'm just thinking those clicks would waste your money as those surfers are less likely to pay for porn.

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                                                                                                            • jawanda
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                              • 6040
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by wdsguy
                                                                                                              Thanks for the tip bro

                                                                                                              Do you stay away from keywords with free in it? I'm just thinking those clicks would waste your money as those surfers are less likely to pay for porn.
                                                                                                              It depends. If you are using a 'free' email-only program, you may be alright using keywords with 'free' in them.

                                                                                                              On the same note, if your listing says "Free trial for adults with credit cards etc etc" ... you are doing a bit of pre-targeting and you might be alright.

                                                                                                              "Free" can definitely bring in some clicks, though.

                                                                                                              -P

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                                                                                                                • Strife
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                  • 4534
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by jawanda
                                                                                                                  BTW, The PPC I'm using DOES have a referral program, but I have to wait for my account to be 'approved' before I get credit. I've got this thread bookmarked and I'll post the link as soon as I get approved.

                                                                                                                  -P
                                                                                                                  Buy & Sell Ads on The Most Sexy Advertising Network on the Planet

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                                                                                                                    • D.I.H.
                                                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                      • 36
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      HE is talking about SEARCHFEED

                                                                                                                      for example:
                                                                                                                      http://www.searchfeed.com/rd/SearchR...g=amateur+porn



                                                                                                                      They are good you just need to know how to use them/target correctly. Findwhat is also good but again you have to have a fair concept of how to get the correct surfers in there. Dont think quantity think quality. I know I hate seeing the trickle and every now and again and go and try to boost up the clicks but its best to trickle instead of trying to make it overflow if ya know what I mean.

                                                                                                                      This may help a few of you, now excuse me while i go open another can of sp..... I mean

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                                                                                                                        • jawanda
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                          • 6040
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by D.I.H.
                                                                                                                          HE is talking about SEARCHFEED

                                                                                                                          for example:
                                                                                                                          http://www.searchfeed.com/rd/SearchR...g=amateur+porn



                                                                                                                          They are good you just need to know how to use them/target correctly. Findwhat is also good but again you have to have a fair concept of how to get the correct surfers in there. Dont think quantity think quality. I know I hate seeing the trickle and every now and again and go and try to boost up the clicks but its best to trickle instead of trying to make it overflow if ya know what I mean.

                                                                                                                          This may help a few of you, now excuse me while i go open another can of sp..... I mean
                                                                                                                          HEY COCKL, how did you know???

                                                                                                                          Not sure if I'll get credit, as my account is still not approved, but use my aff code if you want to:

                                                                                                                          http://www.searchfeed.com/rd/Adverti...ID=D8521217884

                                                                                                                          Rather than that other dudes who hijacked my shit

                                                                                                                          Thanks guys, this turned into a pretty good, informative thread.

                                                                                                                          -P

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                                                                                                                            • jawanda
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                              • 6040
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              One more bump for Strife, WG, and Furious.


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                                                                                                                                • D.I.H.
                                                                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 36
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by jawanda
                                                                                                                                  HEY COCKL, how did you know???

                                                                                                                                  Not sure if I'll get credit, as my account is still not approved, but use my aff code if you want to:

                                                                                                                                  http://www.searchfeed.com/rd/Adverti...ID=D8521217884

                                                                                                                                  Rather than that other dudes who hijacked my shit

                                                                                                                                  Thanks guys, this turned into a pretty good, informative thread.

                                                                                                                                  -P
                                                                                                                                  um hehe guess ill just & myself now.

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                                                                                                                                    • twistyneck
                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 4660
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by D.I.H.
                                                                                                                                      *hijack snipped*

                                                                                                                                      They are good you just need to know how to use them/target correctly. Findwhat is also good but again you have to have a fair concept of how to get the correct surfers in there. Dont think quantity think quality. I know I hate seeing the trickle and every now and again and go and try to boost up the clicks but its best to trickle instead of trying to make it overflow if ya know what I mean.

                                                                                                                                      This may help a few of you, now excuse me while i go open another can of sp..... I mean
                                                                                                                                      Go eat a cock. I'm going to sign up but I'm not going to use your ref code. I'll use jawanda's because he started this thread and gave up some valuable information. You are just a cock smoking threadjacker.

                                                                                                                                      Here is jawanda's ref code for anyone that missed it.

                                                                                                                                      http://www.searchfeed.com/rd/Adverti...ID=D8521217884

                                                                                                                                      Thanks jawanda.

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                                                                                                                                        • D.I.H.
                                                                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 36
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          go right ahead

                                                                                                                                          http://www.searchfeed.com/rd/Adverti...ID=D8521217884

                                                                                                                                          you are saying that like i care . please do use his code in fact its right above ^

                                                                                                                                          I was just letting you all know, theres no need to jump down my mine, you all asked I replied, have fun and happy earnings

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                                                                                                                                            • Theo
                                                                                                                                              HAL 9000
                                                                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 34515
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              you are stupid to share

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                                                                                                                                                • D.I.H.
                                                                                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 36
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  .
                                                                                                                                                  Last edited by D.I.H.; 05-30-2004, 11:32 PM.

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