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Your gallery sucks bigtime.
The clickthrough ratio is next to nothing. You're losing money on this.
For example, those lines of text on top of the gallery, nobody reads that shit. It's a gallery man, not a website. You should keep it more simple with a few eyecatching text links and your ctr will be way higher.Comment
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Originally posted by LadyMischief
No offense to Eros either, but oftentimes galleries need to be tweaked to new traffic after initial testing
Rules received from Cybercat Inc :
TEXT LINK REQUIREMENTS:
Text Link advertising can start anytime.
All the thumbs must open to a free picture or mpg.
Text Links must have a minimum of 12 thumbs for pics and 4 movies (the more the better)
No exit consoles, redirects, blind links or blind banners are permitted.
Multiple links will require new content for each link
No changes of any sort to the page after posting. The text link submitted for posting is the one that will be accepted. Any changes will result in removal from the gallery listing.
SleazyDream will not accept any banners or links that lead to sites with illegal content.
SleazyDream will not accept any advertising promoting Adult Friend Finder.
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the big one your own time . how much do you value your time at!
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Add all that stuff up and figure out the true costs of doing galleries. Bottom line is you want to make minimuim 30% profit on your time and money spent . So if it works out do it over and over margains of profit dont have to be huge on something but tons of small profits add up to be one large one!
In my opinion all tgps that sell spots have figured out the best way to make the higher profit margains is selling spots . No cost for content employees designers just sell spots and collect high profit margains ! THATS smart!!
But cool test hope it works out for you ! Looks like it willFuck off.Comment
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LOL! I'm sure that eroswebmaster will be happy to read your comments.Originally posted by FuqALot
Your gallery sucks bigtime.
The clickthrough ratio is next to nothing. You're losing money on this.
For example, those lines of text on top of the gallery, nobody reads that shit. It's a gallery man, not a website. You should keep it more simple with a few eyecatching text links and your ctr will be way higher.
The majority of people don't have a clue what female ejaculation is. I think you're wrong. The very small explanation helped a lot.Last edited by NoCarrier; 05-30-2004, 06:44 AM.
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thanks seems like a profit could be established with a little tweakingComment
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exactlyOriginally posted by NoCarrier
LOL! I'm sure that eroswebmaster will be happy to read your comments.
The majority of people don't have a clue what female ejaculation is. I think you're wrong. The very small explanation helped a lot.Comment
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It would probably help if your sponsor didn't direct ALL non-US traffic to a dialer.Originally posted by NoCarrier
Net profit : 15$
I'm outside the US. I have a working credit card, as do approximately 1 billion other people outside the US. Yet I was sent to a dialer. I'm not going to use a dialer. Most people aren't. And on the rare occasion that someone does, I bet you don't get paid for it.Comment
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The CTR is probably a little low because female ejaculation is a micro/small niche. It's not necessarily because of the gallery design. Furthermore, the conversions are high beacuse of the same reason. We also don't know what percentage of raw clicks is measured by dollarmachine.Comment
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Yes I know... What I would do is put a gallery up, see how it went, then change it and post the new gallery the NEXT day. This is a test thogh, but I am fully aware of what is a normal TGP rule :P I'm speaking in general terms.Originally posted by NoCarrier
Rules received from Cybercat Inc :
TEXT LINK REQUIREMENTS:
Text Link advertising can start anytime.
All the thumbs must open to a free picture or mpg.
Text Links must have a minimum of 12 thumbs for pics and 4 movies (the more the better)
No exit consoles, redirects, blind links or blind banners are permitted.
Multiple links will require new content for each link
No changes of any sort to the page after posting. The text link submitted for posting is the one that will be accepted. Any changes will result in removal from the gallery listing.
SleazyDream will not accept any banners or links that lead to sites with illegal content.
SleazyDream will not accept any advertising promoting Adult Friend Finder.Comment
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I hate that tooOriginally posted by ldinternet
It would probably help if your sponsor didn't direct ALL non-US traffic to a dialer.
I'm outside the US. I have a working credit card, as do approximately 1 billion other people outside the US. Yet I was sent to a dialer. I'm not going to use a dialer. Most people aren't. And on the rare occasion that someone does, I bet you don't get paid for it.Comment
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I think the gallery is great, personally.. If I had a ctr of 1.1% personally though, I'd tweak itOriginally posted by NoCarrier
LOL! I'm sure that eroswebmaster will be happy to read your comments.
The majority of people don't have a clue what female ejaculation is. I think you're wrong. The very small explanation helped a lot. Call me a perfectionist
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Of course you would, and so would both NC and eros. They're not in the position to do this thoughOriginally posted by LadyMischief
I think the gallery is great, personally.. If I had a ctr of 1.1% personally though, I'd tweak it Call me a perfectionist
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Well, the ctr is really low though, for sites like SleazyDream.Originally posted by NoCarrier
LOL! I'm sure that eroswebmaster will be happy to read your comments.
The majority of people don't have a clue what female ejaculation is. I think you're wrong. The very small explanation helped a lot.
But the conversion rate is pretty good, maybe because of the text yes.
But lets say the ctr becomes 5% that will mean 5x more hits to your paysite. Maybe the conversion ratio will drop a bit, but it won't drop 5 times.
I have tried a lot of galleries on a lot of those high traffic tgps, and really just giving the surfer what he wants (clean layout, and good pictures), will make him click on the smallest textlink. You don't need huge flashing, click here now, banners.
I'm just saying this since it was a nice idea of you to post this thread, and a 1% ctr is not good enough.
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Originally posted by onlymovies
For some reason i thought it was going to be a movie gallery.
it should have been.Comment
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I would think so yepOriginally posted by bluff
Of course you would, and so would both NC and eros. They're not in the position to do this though
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Good test, thanks for posting the info.
Since you went with female ejaculation. I can't help but think that your sign ups might have been better if you were pushing the real thing. Most surfers that are into FE know that most of the "squirts" on those mass market sites are fake
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He has the price prominently displayed. this lowers CTR and makes for a better conversion rate of those that do click through.
The big thing is the payout from the sponsor. He would be hosed with any other sponsor and those numbers.Comment
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trueOriginally posted by slapass
He has the price prominently displayed. this lowers CTR and makes for a better conversion rate of those that do click through.
The big thing is the payout from the sponsor. He would be hosed with any other sponsor and those numbers.Comment
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ok, thanks..Originally posted by NoCarrier
No. 300$ and the gallery is there for 4 days.
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Personally, I don't think so.Originally posted by Equinox
it should have been.
For many reasons.
#1 Female Ejaculation movies are extremely rare. I wanted the surfer to sign up to watch the movies. I just wanted him/her to be curious about it.
#2 It's possible to find female ejaculatin movies but I'm pretty sure that they're expensive, especially for a 300$ gallery spot test.
#3 Bandwith. I don't think that movies would've helped the signups. The bandwith would've propably killed the profit made by putting movies.Last edited by NoCarrier; 05-30-2004, 07:11 AM.
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Interesting stats. Dollarmachine was my #1 sponsor before they started to redirect foreign surfers to dialers
signatures sucks ass
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Wouldn't the price make for a higher CTR? Considering it's a buck?Originally posted by slapass
He has the price prominently displayed. this lowers CTR and makes for a better conversion rate of those that do click through.
The big thing is the payout from the sponsor. He would be hosed with any other sponsor and those numbers.Comment
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So you're saying that the dollarmachine female ejaculation sites are fake? Is that what you are saying?Originally posted by SquirtingCarly
Good test, thanks for posting the info.
Since you went with female ejaculation. I can't help but think that your sign ups might have been better if you were pushing the real thing. Most surfers that are into FE know that most of the "squirts" on those mass market sites are fake
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so true... there is way more dialer horror stories than credit cards.Originally posted by ldinternet
It would probably help if your sponsor didn't direct ALL non-US traffic to a dialer.
I'm outside the US. I have a working credit card, as do approximately 1 billion other people outside the US. Yet I was sent to a dialer. I'm not going to use a dialer. Most people aren't. And on the rare occasion that someone does, I bet you don't get paid for it.
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Originally posted by NoCarrier
So you're saying that the dollarmachine female ejaculation sites are fake? Is that what you are saying?
As you said female ejaculation is rare. I haven't been to that site personally. My husband has had several memberships to some of the larger Female Ejaculation sites. From what I have seen the majority of them are fake. I also hear this from my members.Comment
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seems like this is your first time buying a gallery spot somewhere?
For your results to have any validity, you should have focused on buying a spot on a date besides memorial day weekend.
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realising you're going to have to whip out your cc is a huge turnoff to many surfersOriginally posted by AdultNex
Wouldn't the price make for a higher CTR? Considering it's a buck?Comment
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Which ones?Originally posted by SquirtingCarly
My husband has had several memberships to some of the larger Female Ejaculation sites.
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I am not here to out anybody. I was just adding myOriginally posted by NoCarrier
Which ones?
FE comes from the urethra. Not inside the vagina. If you are watching you can tell.Comment
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Originally posted by NoCarrier
Personally, I don't think so.
For many reasons.
#1 Female Ejaculation movies are extremely rare. I wanted the surfer to sign up to watch the movies. I just wanted him/her to be curious about it.
#2 It's possible to find female ejaculatin movies but I'm pretty sure that they're expensive, especially for a 300$ gallery spot test.
#3 Bandwith. I don't think that movies would've helped the signups. The bandwith would've propably killed the profit made by putting movies.
Good point -- what I meant was also a different niche other than the microniche "ejaculation". Would certainly have pulled more bandwidth, but also appealed a larger audience.
But thanks for posting the results anyway.
One question... does $Machine give credit for the foreign dialer minutes?Comment
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sweet ratios but the ctr is a bit low... you still have some time to go and often a few days after the gall was featured you'll get a few extra signups so it'll be nice to see an update after 4-5 days.
I think the microniche just shows that better results can be made if another niche is used.Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic!
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Better than 99% of the crap sold here!Comment
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That gallery kind of sucks for paid spot imho.
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That's the only downside with this sponsor. You have to chose between dialer revenues and signup revenues. You can't have both.Originally posted by Equinox
One question... does $Machine give credit for the foreign dialer minutes?
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My SE revenues and traffic didn't drop and so far isn't affected at all by this holiday. So what you're saying is that TGP surfers are less horny and they're more patriotic on the memorial day weekend?Originally posted by i am a lurker
seems like this is your first time buying a gallery spot somewhere?
For your results to have any validity, you should have focused on buying a spot on a date besides memorial day weekend.
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you are comparing apples to oranges.Originally posted by NoCarrier
My SE revenues and traffic didn't drop and so far isn't affected at all by this holiday. So what you're saying is that TGP surfers are less horny and they're more patriotic on the memorial day weekend?Comment
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5% return in 4 days....better then what any bank gives me !
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I think you are just confused. I was just saying that my traffic didn't drop because of the holiday weekend.Originally posted by i am a lurker
you are comparing apples to oranges.
I'm pretty sure that TGP traffic is also not affected by it.
So I'm asking you one more time, are TGP surfers less horny and more patriotic on memorial day?
Because you seem to think that I lost a lot of sales because my gallery was displayed during that time.
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Isn't it a bad time to do a test. Bank holiday weekend?Comment
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A holiday never affected my traffic and sales. I don't see why it can be different with Sleazydream's traffic. But that's my opinion.Originally posted by Ross
Isn't it a bad time to do a test. Bank holiday weekend?
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i actually tried to be civil, but now it shows that you are a FUCKING MORON. Do an analysis on your SE traffic fluctuations with 6 months of your stats, weekends versus weekdays, and do the same for your TGP traffic. You will notice the steadiness in SE traffic compared to drops in TGP. It's how things work, do your homework in the industry you are trying to work in, and you won't come off looking like a fucking MORON.Originally posted by NoCarrier
I think you are just confused. I was just saying that my traffic didn't drop because of the holiday weekend.
I'm pretty sure that TGP traffic is also not affected by it.
So I'm asking you one more time, are TGP surfers less horny and more patriotic on memorial day?
Because you seem to think that I lost a lot of sales because my gallery was displayed during that time.
treat this as a business and understand what you are trying to do before coming off like a dumbshit.Comment
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yep but who the fuck uses modems nowadays? i havent seen much $$$ in my dollarmachine stats...Originally posted by Equinox
One question... does $Machine give credit for the foreign dialer minutes?
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so, one conclusion to draw, is that a pay site owner not giving away 50% (or whatever) would stand to make $630 plus get long term site exposure (not to be underestimated) for a $300 gallery spot.
Taking into account that they have allready tried and tested there galleries and content and probably got ones they know that best convert, they would probably make more sales, also add some exit sponsors to there tour etc etc, sounds like a winner!
Well done Sleazy
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Wow! Some of your insults are using caps lock! You're a real tough guyOriginally posted by i am a lurker
i actually tried to be civil, but now it shows that you are a FUCKING MORON. Do an analysis on your SE traffic fluctuations with 6 months of your stats, weekends versus weekdays, and do the same for your TGP traffic. You will notice the steadiness in SE traffic compared to drops in TGP. It's how things work, do your homework in the industry you are trying to work in, and you won't come off looking like a fucking MORON.
treat this as a business and understand what you are trying to do before coming off like a dumbshit.
I really don't think that it would've made any difference If I waited for the next weekend.
Thanks for your comments!
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My stats show something else... quick look to the stats.... 83 SU's and 7 dialer minutesOriginally posted by NoCarrier
That's the only downside with this sponsor. You have to chose between dialer revenues and signup revenues. You can't have both.
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doesn't really matter what you think anymore, you already proved that you are an idiotOriginally posted by NoCarrier
I really don't think that it would've made any difference If I waited for the next weekend.
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Rule #1: Know your niche.Originally posted by SquirtingCarly
I am not here to out anybody. I was just adding my
FE comes from the urethra. Not inside the vagina. If you are watching you can tell.
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