Which one is WORSE Shaving or Scrubing?

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  • KMR Stitch
    I am cool
    • Jul 2003
    • 14494
    #1

    Which one is WORSE Shaving or Scrubing?

    Well from my point of view.. It's almost the same..

    I think scrubing is a little more fucked up for Regulars on your site. they will find another site if they are declined.

    I do agree if the CC# = blacklisted Scrub the bitch

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    • baddog
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2001
      • 107089
      #2
      shaving of course. go thru the trouble of making sure the cc is good, and then not get paid for it? that sucks

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        • FlyingIguana
          aspiring banker
          • Mar 2002
          • 10870
          #3
          these are two seperate things. apples and oranges.

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            • sweet7
              Confirmed User
              • May 2003
              • 1792
              #4
              Originally posted by FlyingIguana
              these are two seperate things. apples and oranges.
              yeah but both affect the bottom line, the question I think is which one would you least want to happen to you...
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                • SMG
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 1798
                  #5
                  personally I like it when girls shave and scrub
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                    • smokingdawn
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 2808
                      #6
                      Originally posted by baddog
                      shaving of course. go thru the trouble of making sure the cc is good, and then not get paid for it? that sucks
                      I would have to agree

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                        • Groove
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 3852
                          #7
                          Scrubbing is necessary, but costs you money if they do it
                          too hard. Shaving is THEFT and is totally fucked-up.

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                            • EviLGuY
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 12745
                              #8
                              Shaving is stealing from you so they can afford those fancy cars etc.. scrubbing is just how things have to go if people want to keep chargeback levels low.

                              Are you even in this industry? How can you think they are anything close to the same?

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                                • NakedBo
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2004
                                  • 1614
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Groove
                                  Scrubbing is necessary, but costs you money if they do it
                                  too hard. Shaving is THEFT and is totally fucked-up.

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                                    • pure energy
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Apr 2004
                                      • 4274
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by sweet7
                                      yeah but both affect the bottom line, the question I think is which one would you least want to happen to you...

                                      Scrubbing would be my choice.
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                                        • woj
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                                          • Jul 2002
                                          • 47880
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by sweet7
                                          yeah but both affect the bottom line, the question I think is which one would you least want to happen to you...
                                          Scrubbing, at least you will gain something from increased scrubbing -> less chargebacks/fraud....
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                                            • Aquarius
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2004
                                              • 4754
                                              #12
                                              Shaving = theft, so it is worse.

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                                                • Ar3s
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                  • 4307
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Aquarius
                                                  Shaving = theft, so it is worse.

                                                  but everyone do it!

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                                                    • nofx
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                      • 16826
                                                      #14
                                                      shaving, stealing money right from your pockets

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                                                        • shermo
                                                          #15
                                                          Shaving is downright dirty while scrubbing is somewhat necessary to keep our industry flowing. I hate hard scrubs via some major processors, but what can affiliates really do about it?

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                                                            • Furious_Male
                                                              Doing the grind since 99
                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                              • 16884
                                                              #16
                                                              Shaving is outright theft. No sugar coating it. Scrubbing is part of security protocol. No comparison. Shaving is the worst.
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                                                                • slapass
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                  • 14625
                                                                  #17
                                                                  We all like to think of shavign as theft but if they have traffic leaks, don't pay on AOL, dropped cookies, don't pay on checks or dialers etc is that theft? There are tons of ways to shave us that they do right in front of our faces so are they stealing?

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                                                                    • steve90
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                      • 2397
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by baddog
                                                                      shaving of course. go thru the trouble of making sure the cc is good, and then not get paid for it? that sucks

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                                                                        • FlyingIguana
                                                                          aspiring banker
                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                          • 10870
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by sweet7
                                                                          yeah but both affect the bottom line, the question I think is which one would you least want to happen to you...
                                                                          but one is ripping off webmasters and the other is in response to tough visa regulations.

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                                                                            • corvette
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                              • 7880
                                                                              #20
                                                                              2 completely separate principles

                                                                              one is risk mitigation, and the other a dishonest practice of stealing/misrepresentation


                                                                              ?and imo, if shaving occurs, by and large it is so programs can pay the high payouts that affiliates demand
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                                                                                • mpahlca
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                                  • 1821
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  The problem with shaving and saying the arguement of; dropped cookies, not paying on AOL and shit like that is; It doesn't matter how they are 'losing' the traffic theft is theft it is their responsibility to follow the traffic that is part of the agreement!

                                                                                  We are advertisers putting up ads on the internet for these companies, if they are unable to track the traffic we are sending them then maybe we shouldn't send it anymore!
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                                                                                    • EscortBiz
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                                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                                      • 19422
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by corvett


                                                                                      ?and imo, if shaving occurs, by and large it is so programs can pay the high payouts that affiliates demand
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                                                                                        • jayeff
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                                          • 2944
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Most of us have examples of scrubbing gone crazy: perfectly good card rejected, etc. But even if the processors are costing us some points, that's as far as it goes.

                                                                                          Shaving is theft, but it's more than theft: it is every webmaster who shaves telling all their affiliates that they are sh*t, laughing at how gullible they are. Shaving is about crooks, not businessmen, who one day will screw up their businesses or just get bored and walk away with another chunk of their affiliates cash.

                                                                                          And screw the argument most only shave to meet affiliates expectations. Who built up those expectations if not the clowns who said they could pay $40 when they knew they could only afford $30.

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