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Old 03-04-2005, 07:19 PM  
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You are right. I misquoted the broke thing.I meant, If I lose the $40k on the program... I'll still have my matrix money savings account. I don't want to put a dent in that if I can raise the money quickly offering seo advice that anyone can do. This is a great way for me to network too, so when my program opens, many of the webmasters I meet and have met, might actually use their seo knowledge to push my program.

~Ray
Ok this is getting interesting, I think I am figuring something out here:

If you have the time please read my thoughts I posted on surfer vs. affiliate traffic in another thread today:

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Originally Posted by PornHero

What I think you are talking about here is how to best LEVERAGE your time.

Do you spend time getting your own surfer traffic or affiliate traffic?

I think it would be easier to get surfer traffic in this day and age than affiliates to promote your program. The # of webmasters out there are FINITE and their time LIMITED. Even if an adultwebmaster likes what he/she sees in your program it takes alot for them to take the time to sign up, add your links to their sites and push traffic to you. You have alot of big companies with deep pockets and new fresh sites/content coming out all the time. Those are the ones that are always at the top of my list.

Surfer traffic for all intents and purposes is INFINITE.
There are millions of people around the world searching for porn everyday. But the key is they are not all searching for the same thing! The niches/types/fetishes of these millions of surfers are virtually UNLIMITED when compared to the number of webmasters trying to serve them. In fact we dont have enough adultwebmasters to serve all the niches yet. lol, i cant beleive i just wrote that but its true.

For example... have you heard of of the porn niche Dogging? Neither did I until this morning. Here's a hint, it doesnt refer to bestiality at all.

Type in "dogging porn" into google (with the quotes), its a joke the little amount of results that come up.

But Dogging is starting to gain a foothold and if it continues I know its just a matter of time (may be a year or two but they're coming) before the first big sponsor like TopBucks or NastyDollars comes out with a Dogging site. And I'll be all over that mofo when they do

Now if you have an affiliate program how are you going to captialize on all this Dogging traffic? If you are a 1 to 3-man sponsor operation please let me know how you'd do it in a profitable, timely, aggressive manner that competes with the big boys.

But if you were concentrating on surfer traffic there are a myriad of ways to start getting dogging traffic almost overnight.

So to get back to my point, your average affiliate program is dealing with a finite amount of adultwebmasters, a finite niche, and competing with some pretty big heavyhitters.

Whereas a webmaster that is dealing with surfer traffic has 100's of millions of potentional surfers, Unlimited niches and a wide assortment of affiliate programs to choose from. And let me tell you, you dont have to worry about competing with the finite amount of adult webmasters, there is plenty of money to be made in surfer traffic if you know what you are doing.

Now the question of where to the send the surfers is a good one. I must admit from my firsthand experience that certain free/with creditcard sponsors that pay you a nice chunk of change for a free signup are extremely profitable. And I have also experienced some great rebills on recurring sales. Either way, I always preach you should always diversify your assets, never have ALL your eggs in one basket, whether thats servers, domains, sponsors, or pay types (pps, recurring).

Sorry for the long ass post, I hope it makes sense to some of you, not everyone will get it, this is Advanced Leverage Management 301.
So my question to you still remains, since you are so good at SEO, and we all agree that huge money can be made in it, why do you want to open a webmaster program so badly. Wouldn't it be more profitable in the long run to work the search engines yourself?

Please let me know where my logic is off.

Thanks
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