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  • Fletch XXX
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    • Jan 2002
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    #1

    Whats With The Lame Ending in LOTR 3?

    Got the last copy on the shelf yesterday! DVD

    Too many "try to make you cry" moments.

    Why does Froto have to leave?

    Where is the boat going?

    What does "the sea calls us home" mean by the Elf guy?

    the ending didnt make sense to me.

    care to explain? so they save middle earth and get on a boat to go somewhere else?


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    • X37375787
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      Frodo is leaving because he's dying, at least that's what I remember.

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        • zzgundamnzz
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          • Apr 2002
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          #3
          They're going to the "Undying Lands". Remember Elves are immortal. They saved "Frodo" and "Bilbo" spots on the ship as a reward.

          Don't know if they were ever granted immortality but Gimli was...


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            • Fletch XXX
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              • Jan 2002
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              #4
              Originally posted by Equinox
              Frodo is leaving because he's dying, at least that's what I remember.
              dying from what?

              i dont get this shit.

              why didnt he just jump in the Volcano then?

              i never grasped he was dying... just that he and the others had to leave.

              Gandalf, the elf, the woods lady, even Biblo, is there some "live forever" place the elfs taking them?

              i dont get it.

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                • Eric
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                  • Dec 2000
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                  #5
                  Frodo is leaving cause he is dying. The stab wound that he got in the first movie is killing him. The elves, Gandalf, Frodo and Bilbo are leaving Middle earth. There are different opinions on where they are going. Heaven, etc... I heard from someone that Gandalf is truly an Angel or something like that.

                  Someone correct me if I am way off base here.
                  No One

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                    • Eric
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                      • Dec 2000
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                      #6
                      Oh yeah and all the time Frodo and Bilbo spent with the ring fucked them up. What you don't see in the movie but was in the book was that Frodo has several spells where he gets really really sick from that stab wound the Ringwraith gave him.
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                        • Reak
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                          • Mar 2003
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                          #7
                          Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                          dying from what?
                          man.

                          just watch all the movies or read the books?

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                            • aaron
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                              • Mar 2003
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                              #8
                              i definitely thought it dragged on

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                                • Thomas1007
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                                  • Aug 2002
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                                  #9
                                  watched the dvd last night
                                  I agree too much sappy BS at the end
                                  kind of left it open for another movie
                                  ( if they wanted too I suppose)
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                                    • eroswebmaster
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                                      • Jul 2001
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                                      Frodo got sars...he's going to the land of Benadryl and Sprite.
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                                        • Eric
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                                          • Dec 2000
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                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by aaron
                                          i definitely thought it dragged on
                                          read the books you will appreciate the quick ending of the movie haha
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                                            • Fletch XXX
                                              GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                              • Jan 2002
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                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Reak
                                              man.

                                              just watch all the movies or read the books?
                                              the last one threw me off, too much make you cry crap squeezed in to battlwe scenes, i have them all on DVD now, but it just seemd like it was thrown together and compressed together,... if you arent literally staring at the screen you miss so much.

                                              I cant sit still that long

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                                                • X37375787
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                                                  Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                  Frodo got sars...he's going to the land of Benadryl and Sprite.

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                                                    • zzgundamnzz
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                                                      • Apr 2002
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                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Thomas1007
                                                      watched the dvd last night
                                                      I agree too much sappy BS at the end
                                                      kind of left it open for another movie
                                                      ( if they wanted too I suppose)
                                                      Which movie would that be?

                                                      Tolkien didn't write a sequel to LOTR...


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                                                        • Roald
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                                                          #15
                                                          dude the end of this movies sucked. I thought it was almost over and still had to wait half an hour before it was finished.


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                                                            • TDF
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                                                                • Fletch XXX
                                                                  GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                  • 60840
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by zzgundamnzz
                                                                  Which movie would that be?

                                                                  Tolkien didn't write a sequel to LOTR...
                                                                  no but, they purposefully put Bilbo at the end of this one saying "I am ready for a new adventure"

                                                                  we all know Peter jackson wants to do The Hobbit which would tell Bilbos tales, which is where the story really is right?

                                                                  Telling lord Of The Rings and not The Hobbit is like Star Wars with no 1,2,3

                                                                  Also, Sam is given the book and told "the last pages are for you"

                                                                  there are indeed hints to more stories...

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                                                                    • Monique Niccole
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      I watched it last night too. It was all so sappy and homoerotic. There were several times where I thought Frodo and Sam or those other two hobbits were going to give each other deep tongue kisses.

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                                                                        • NoCarrier
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Eric_aka_RedEyes
                                                                          Frodo is leaving cause he is dying. The stab wound that he got in the first movie is killing him. The elves, Gandalf, Frodo and Bilbo are leaving Middle earth. There are different opinions on where they are going. Heaven, etc... I heard from someone that Gandalf is truly an Angel or something like that.

                                                                          Someone correct me if I am way off base here.
                                                                          Well, Frodo is not dying, but he cannot handle the pain anymore.

                                                                          That's why we saw him complain that his wound still bothers him and it will never heal.

                                                                          But the ring also affected him and the fact that he almost betrayed everyone with it.

                                                                          The only peaceful place left for him is with the elves, the emotionnal and physical pain will be gone.

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                                                                            • Thomas1007
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by zzgundamnzz
                                                                              Which movie would that be?

                                                                              Tolkien didn't write a sequel to LOTR...
                                                                              ya I realize that, but they could have screenwriters make something up, I believe the director bought the rights etc.
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                                                                                • smokingdawn
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Reak
                                                                                  man.

                                                                                  just watch all the movies or read the books?
                                                                                  Sounds like a good idea

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                                                                                    • axelcat
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      I heard of the same thing over and over

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                                                                                        • Eric
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                                          no but, they purposefully put Bilbo at the end of this one saying "I am ready for a new adventure"

                                                                                          we all know Peter jackson wants to do The Hobbit which would tell Bilbos tales, which is where the story really is right?

                                                                                          Telling lord Of The Rings and not The Hobbit is like Star Wars with no 1,2,3

                                                                                          Also, Sam is given the book and told "the last pages are for you"

                                                                                          there are indeed hints to more stories...
                                                                                          I would love to see Peter Jackson do a Prequel with The Hobbit. Much more adventure and action to that story for sure.

                                                                                          As far as Sam's tales. He didn't do shit. At the end of the book Return of the King it has a timeline in one of the Appendix sections that you can read if you want to do a quick summary of not only what happened before these movies but also after.
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                                                                                            • zzgundamnzz
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                                              no but, they purposefully put Bilbo at the end of this one saying "I am ready for a new adventure"

                                                                                              we all know Peter jackson wants to do The Hobbit which would tell Bilbos tales, which is where the story really is right?

                                                                                              Telling lord Of The Rings and not The Hobbit is like Star Wars with no 1,2,3

                                                                                              Also, Sam is given the book and told "the last pages are for you"

                                                                                              there are indeed hints to more stories...
                                                                                              You were just confused about the ending... where did all this insite come from?

                                                                                              Maybe you weren't confused at all


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                                                                                                • Reak
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                                                  the last one threw me off, too much make you cry crap squeezed in to battlwe scenes, i have them all on DVD now, but it just seemd like it was thrown together and compressed together,... if you arent literally staring at the screen you miss so much.

                                                                                                  I cant sit still that long

                                                                                                  hahaha
                                                                                                  I agree the end of the movie 3 is long and boring. I actually like those battle scenes they are awesome especially the special effects. I think you should give a try movie 2.

                                                                                                  I saw them all 3 and i liked #2 the best.

                                                                                                  Reak.

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                                                                                                    • Thomas1007
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                                                      no but, they purposefully put Bilbo at the end of this one saying "I am ready for a new adventure"

                                                                                                      we all know Peter jackson wants to do The Hobbit which would tell Bilbos tales, which is where the story really is right?

                                                                                                      Telling lord Of The Rings and not The Hobbit is like Star Wars with no 1,2,3

                                                                                                      Also, Sam is given the book and told "the last pages are for you"

                                                                                                      there are indeed hints to more stories...
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                                                                                                        • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                                          • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Reak
                                                                                                          I think you should give a try movie 2.

                                                                                                          You missed where I said I have them all? hehehe ;)

                                                                                                          I like 2 the best myself ;)

                                                                                                          3 wraps up a lot of the story, but had a lot in it... seems they could have added more to part 1, but what we have to remember is, this is nt just a DVD trying to tell a story.

                                                                                                          They are trying to focus on the best marketing also. I wasnt pleased to find out the one I bought is the Fullscren version vs widescreen, why cant they put out the WS first? all other 2 are widescreen this one is Full, i wont repurchase either hehehe

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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              WTF? How can you say that 15 mins out of almost 10 hours was long and boring?

                                                                                                              Actually, the ending was rushed. In the book it's much more detailed.

                                                                                                              Anyway, I thought it was an excellent ending. Character development isn't only based on swords and blood. Emotion is also part of it.

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                                                                                                                • serious
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  I have read the hobbit and think it would make an excellent movie, done in the same way as lotr
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                                                                                                                    • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by NoCarrier
                                                                                                                      WTF? How can you say that 15 mins out of almost 10 hours was long and boring?

                                                                                                                      Actually, the ending was rushed. In the book it's much more detailed.

                                                                                                                      Anyway, I thought it was an excellent ending. Character development isn't only based on swords and blood. Emotion is also part of it.
                                                                                                                      I didnt use the term "boring" in this thread...

                                                                                                                      I liked the ending, I just didnt understand it, which is why I made the thread, glad you folks grasped it all.

                                                                                                                      I have to stick to horror movies, I can only understand slaher flicks. Anytime I leave my genre I get all confused like this, *throw on HO1KC*

                                                                                                                      ;)


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                                                                                                                        • gornyhuy
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          the book lasts much longer - there is a whole battle back at the shire against sauruman and wormtongue...

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                                                                                                                            • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                                                              • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by gornyhuy
                                                                                                                              the book lasts much longer - there is a whole battle back at the shire against sauruman and wormtongue...
                                                                                                                              exactly.

                                                                                                                              they didnt even show him in this one!

                                                                                                                              At the end of the other one he is in his castle overlooking the Ents and the water battle scene, then disappears from storyline? hehehe

                                                                                                                              they didnt even show my favorite charahcter in this one!!!

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                                                                                                                                • NoCarrier
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                                                                                  I didnt use the term "boring" in this thread...

                                                                                                                                  I liked the ending, I just didnt understand it, which is why I made the thread, glad you folks grasped it all.

                                                                                                                                  I have to stick to horror movies, I can only understand slaher flicks. Anytime I leave my genre I get all confused like this, *throw on HO1KC*

                                                                                                                                  ;)
                                                                                                                                  My reply was for the other whining fuckers ;) hehehehe...

                                                                                                                                  Yeah, the ending is very confusing if you didn't read the book. Nothing to be ashamed of bro.

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                                                                                                                                        • Vic Lagina
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by gornyhuy
                                                                                                                                          the book lasts much longer - there is a whole battle back at the shire against sauruman and wormtongue...
                                                                                                                                          I would have liked to have seen that. It's like Sauruman and Wormtongue disappeared...they needed to get their asses kicked.

                                                                                                                                          But the way Peter Jackson explained it, the climax of the story is the ring being destroyed, and he didn't think the audience would be in for another 30-45 minutes of the Shire Battle.

                                                                                                                                          Still, he should have shot it and included it in an extended version of the story.
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                                                                                                                                              who's wormtongue?

                                                                                                                                              Wait for the Special Edition DVD box to appear in stores, it has over 2 hours more movie
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by TGPslut
                                                                                                                                                  who's wormtongue?

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                                                                                                                                                    • GTS Mark
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                                                                                                                                                      Great movie for sure, the end sure did drag on for a while.

                                                                                                                                                      Only part of the movie I really didn't like was the ghosts part. I thought that was kind of hokey.

                                                                                                                                                      But then again the whole movie isn't really all that realistic. It's just a fun movie to watch

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                                                                                                                                                        • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by DrinkingHard
                                                                                                                                                          Great movie for sure, the end sure did drag on for a while.

                                                                                                                                                          Only part of the movie I really didn't like was the ghosts part. I thought that was kind of hokey.

                                                                                                                                                          But then again the whole movie isn't really all that realistic. It's just a fun movie to watch

                                                                                                                                                          DH
                                                                                                                                                          The Army of The Dead is as much a part of this story as Gandalf in my opinion.

                                                                                                                                                          They could NOT have won without that massive sweep of the dead.

                                                                                                                                                          Its not just hokey ghosts, the symbolism of the Dead fighting along side the living to earn honor and to save middle earth tells the same story of redemption in age old books.

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                                                                                                                                                            • mcfly
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              read the book. jeez.

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                                                                                                                                                                • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by mcfly
                                                                                                                                                                  read the book. jeez.
                                                                                                                                                                  thanks for the wonderful insight and most valued opinion MCFLY!

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                                                                                                                                                                      fat hobbitsssssss always eating the breaaaaaaad


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                                                                                                                                                                        • fktup
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                                                                                                                          thanks for the wonderful insight and most valued opinion MCFLY!

                                                                                                                                                                          it *would* answer all your questions.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • MetaMan
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                                                                                                                                                                              they are all dead,
                                                                                                                                                                              Bilbo is old, Gandalf is old, Froto is dying because of the wound he suffered from the sword of Tsaron <- i have no idea how to spell it.

                                                                                                                                                                              they are all going to heaven because it is their time.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by fktup
                                                                                                                                                                                  it *would* answer all your questions.
                                                                                                                                                                                  I can understand that.

                                                                                                                                                                                  But not all of really have the time to just start reading some fucking 3 part book thats bigger than the bible. Last lonog book like that i read was the Stand, I get lost in those slow books.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Anyway this thread was about the film, if you guys feel its better to just say "read the book" instead of posting anything else, why even bother? Why not just skip over the thread?

                                                                                                                                                                                  Either give me some insight or mve on man, no one makes you guys look in here.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Ill read the book when I have some time to kill, other than that the movies are much easier to just throw on while I work.


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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by mcfly
                                                                                                                                                                                      read the book. jeez.
                                                                                                                                                                                      Best advice if you want to fully understand the movie.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • LadyMischief
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                                                                                                                                          I can understand that.

                                                                                                                                                                                          But not all of really have the time to just start reading some fucking 3 part book thats bigger than the bible. Last lonog book like that i read was the Stand, I get lost in those slow books.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Anyway this thread was about the film, if you guys feel its better to just say "read the book" instead of posting anything else, why even bother? Why not just skip over the thread?

                                                                                                                                                                                          Either give me some insight or mve on man, no one makes you guys look in here.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Ill read the book when I have some time to kill, other than that the movies are much easier to just throw on while I work.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Actually, there sort of ARE other books written by Tolkein. THey are hard to find.. my father in law has them.... The Similarian and others. Interesting read.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                                                                                                                                                                              Actually, there sort of ARE other books written by Tolkein. THey are hard to find.. my father in law has them.... The Similarian and others. Interesting read.
                                                                                                                                                                                              hehehe this wont help me understand this one though!

                                                                                                                                                                                              anyway, in everythread about a movie there are the "read the book" guys, I am one of them! I read more than I watch television thats for sure. But in the case of LOTR sorry, I read the Hobbit in school when I was a kid and thats it.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Im into horror not fantasy. So I picked up the DVDs, liked the movies just the last one threw me off, thought id see what you folks thought since it came out on DVD yesterday.

                                                                                                                                                                                              anyway - guess ill have to actually pick up the books now, but if they read slow and are too drawn out, ill end up not finishing it and going back to short story horror.


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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Babel
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  read the genesis, you'll understand the end ....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Babel
                                                                                                                                                                                                      read the genesis, you'll understand the end ....
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