what a silly little game
-
-
While I can understand where you're comming from I still have to disagree about giving away so much info.
Inevitably you're going to now have people crawling all up and down your shit and someone will eventually figure out what you do.
Let's face it... all the stuff about "pre selling" is cool and all. But it's just talk about how you market your product. The true secret is your TRAFFIC SOURCE!
Welcome to all of GFY trying to hunt down your traffic sources and copying you.
Regardless... congrats on the great numbers and good luck with 2005!
P.S. Back when I first started I was a lot lot more open about my numbers as well....then I learned my lesson, lolComment
-
lol, people can hunt my shit down all they want but the key is that they dont see the breakdown of where the money is coming from... I have a shitload of sites/pages/domains. etc... and I find it follows the 20/80 rule... 20% of what you put out there makes 80% of your income... you all dont know which 20% it is... 80% of the stuff I built since 1997 makes me no moneyOriginally posted by MelomanWhile I can understand where you're comming from I still have to disagree about giving away so much info.
Inevitably you're going to now have people crawling all up and down your shit and someone will eventually figure out what you do.
Let's face it... all the stuff about "pre selling" is cool and all. But it's just talk about how you market your product. The true secret is your TRAFFIC SOURCE!
Welcome to all of GFY trying to hunt down your traffic sources and copying you.
Regardless... congrats on the great numbers and good luck with 2005!
P.S. Back when I first started I was a lot lot more open about my numbers as well....then I learned my lesson, lol
that's why one of the keys of this business is to just continue to build, submit, learn, build, submit, learn etc... the big thing now is pornblogs.. and if you dont have one yet you are missing out... what? too busy with your sorry-ass TGP? fuckin make a pornblog already and add it to TopPornBlogsLast edited by PornHero; 03-03-2005, 12:29 PM.Comment
-
That's good that you you're diversified enough from over the years that it would be hard to figure you out. I know exactly what you mean about having old ass shit from back in the day that isn't performing anymore but is still up.Originally posted by PornHerolol, people can hunt my shit down all they want but the key is that they dont see the breakdown of where the money is coming from... I have a shitload of sites/pages/domains. etc... and I find it follows the 20/80 rule... 20% of what you put out there makes 80% of your income... you all dont know which 20% it is... 80% of the stuff I built since 1997 makes me no money
that's why one of the keys of this business is to just continue to build, submit, learn, build, submit, learn etc... the big thing now is pornblogs.. and if you dont have one yet you are missing out... what? too busy with your sorry-ass TGP? fuckin make a pornblog already and add it to TopPornBlogs
But there are lots of other ways of figuring you out. People inevitably talk. Your best performing sponsor my have a big mouth and may mention to someone what you do etc.. Sometimes it's innocent slip of the tongue. But you can bet your ass people here are now wondering about you
I just thing it's much smarter to be low key and only let people you're actually networking at shows etc.. know what you do. This just comes from my personal experience. Hopefully you won't figure out the same lesson
Honestly I'm not trying to bash you or anything and think it's very cool that you've been successful at this. You've probably just inspired 90% of GFY with your figures.
Again congrats and good luck to a prosperous 2005
Comment
-
well thanks for the advice but here is ANOTHER juicy tidbit I have learned from my experience....Originally posted by MelomanThat's good that you you're diversified enough from over the years that it would be hard to figure you out. I know exactly what you mean about having old ass shit from back in the day that isn't performing anymore but is still up.
But there are lots of other ways of figuring you out. People inevitably talk. Your best performing sponsor my have a big mouth and may mention to someone what you do etc.. Sometimes it's innocent slip of the tongue. But you can bet your ass people here are now wondering about you
I just thing it's much smarter to be low key and only let people you're actually networking at shows etc.. know what you do. This just comes from my personal experience. Hopefully you won't figure out the same lesson
Honestly I'm not trying to bash you or anything and think it's very cool that you've been successful at this. You've probably just inspired 90% of GFY with your figures.
Again congrats and good luck to a prosperous 2005
Dont' worry.
Yup.. that's my piece of advice... don't worry.. Anytime you see your sales take a dip... everytime a server goes down... anytime one of your top sponsors shuts down, don't worry...
Now make sure you understand me... I didnt say not to freak out, fix that shit asap and learn your lesson... but what I mean is dont be afraid that you are going to have to go back to your job at McDonalds... it takes some practice but don't run your business like a paranoid little adultwebmaster.
Let me a bit more clear -- Freaking out over a specific problem is short-term and lasts for the life of the problem - that's understandable...worrying is your day to day paranoia that your sales are dropping, you are doing shit in the search engines, you are never going to make it in this business... etc etc.
Just like any business, this business has its ups and downs. Your business/income wont go straight up, but you have to stick to it, keep building and learn new things whenever you can.
I have realized that sex sells and we are still just at the very beginning of a massive market that is emerging. There are many people who have never even been to a pornsite yet. I know that may seem hard to believe but its true. And with the quality sites that are coming out many guys are going to start making it a habit of having 3-4 memberships at their favorite sites that deliver. and I wanna be there to tell them about the new ones coming out.
My point is I can lose all my shit tonight, today, right now, and I'd be back baby. This business is continually evolving and even I STILL learn something new EVERYDAY... get it? I remember before days/weeks would go by before I learned something new... now i learn something new and worthwhile everyday...
phew, these rantings of an adultwebmaster are gettin' me tired I am going to go get something to eat.Comment
-
I did $4200 In January $250 in costs. not bad!Markyman
Comment
-
-
I guess the begining question was.
In Jan I made $21,616 in profit from just TPG submission for my own site.
That includes recurring sales at 47.2% for the first month.Comment
-
Yes but the sweet money is keeping me from pushing my self to finish college! doh!!Originally posted by debbieNMarkyman
Comment
-
I'm waiting for you to tell us about tiny classified adsOriginally posted by PornHero
Cary | AIM: cheesefrog | ICQ: 4287002Comment
-
Finishing college would be a great thing. Work on your business parttime while you finish school. This business isnt going anywhere.Originally posted by markyman
Comment
-
is that supposed to be a joke?Originally posted by CheeseFrogI'm waiting for you to tell us about tiny classified adsLooking to speak w/ high volume nutra CPA affiliates or networks... msg me
Comment
-
lol, actually, let me tell you about little tiny classified ads...Originally posted by CheeseFrogI'm waiting for you to tell us about tiny classified ads
they're called Adwords...
and they work...
Comment
-
i wish all of us a better year this year.Comment
-
are u on icq, i wouldnt mind talking to u if u have a moment.if you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;)
p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.Comment
-
ask and ye shall receiveOriginally posted by clickclickclick
icq 161-550-420
if anyone else wants to add me to their icq go ahead, then make a post here and I'll authorize you
Comment
-
Hey, I will post how much I made just from clickcash. I don't agree that what people make can not be confirmed. It seems easy enough to have someone that the person trust (and is generally trusted by everyone here) to log in and look at their stats and see if he is telling the truth.Originally posted by PornHeroI've always wanted to do this ever since I started noticing gfy threads where people refuse to tell exactly how much they make a month.
I always thought "what's the big deal with saying how much you make?":
This is my thinking process:
1. NOONE CAN CONFIRM IT: first of all, noone knows if the number you say is bullshit or not, so why not say a number?
Plus incomes vary based on how much time/energy you put into your business. I'd prefer to be making $1000 a month spending 2 hours a month on my business rather than making $5000/month but working 80 hours a week.
2. IF YOU EXAGGERATE: Only you will know that you are living a lie... Not a good thing if people who make about the same level you claim want to do business with you.
3. IF YOU SAY A SMALLER NUMBER: Then you are missing out on opportunies that may arise from people who are looking for webmasters making good money in this business.
Some people say its none of anyone's business how much I make... true dat... but I believe by stating your income you are promoting the stage you are at in this business and will attract likeminded people at the same level to network with you. Like they say, many times its not what you know but who you know. You really have nothing to lose.
If you make more than me then good for you You serve as inspiration for me to keep building my business. If you make less than me then I hope I serve as an inspiration to you as a number of people did when I was coming up.
I have never been one to follow rules or traditions that I didnt agree with if I didnt have to.
And this is one tradition I dont agree with.
So that is why I am about to post exactly how much money my statsremote says I made for the month of January 2005.
Keep in mind my total expenses for the month were about $1500 which includes my servers, bandwith, and domain names.
WHEN THIS THREAD HITS 50 replies I am going to post my statsremote income for the month of January. I will not post again 'til then.
Go ahead and post your guess if you like
The ONLY reason I post my stats is to provide credibility for clickcash and my site www.teamclickcash.com . If I wasn't promoting team clickcash I wouldn't mention what I make, which is what I have been doing the previous 5 years before I started the site a few months ago.
I want people who are advertising other programs and making $200, $500, $1000, $5,000+ a week to see what I am making and realize they can double their income or more if they made the switch to clickcash. I have tried a lot of other companies in the past and I didn't make half with them then, that I am making now with clickcash.
Total Made in Jan from Clickcash: $82,760.00 that's not counting referral money and I also left 1/1/05 and 1/30 - 1/31/05 off because they feel into other pay periods. I have about 20 - 30% in expenses.
If you want to give clickcash a try and see if your sales can boost up then contact me through my site. Nothing to lose. Before I switched to clickcash I was making not much more then most people here. It wasn't the traffic or my design holding me back, it was my the other compaies I was working with. The right affiliate company makes all the difference in the world.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
Comment
-
Porn Hero you seem like a nice cool guy, would love to work with you. Would you ever considering sending a little traffic to clickcash. If you try it you will be amazed and wont be long you will be switching all your ads over to them....Originally posted by PornHero
ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
Comment
-
added you to icq, wouldnt mind chatting
Comment
-
I made $4000 and am not ashamed of thatComment
-
Originally posted by debbieN
Hey debbie, I use to run memberships sites while back. Was making abouthalf that (profit) each month. Then I switched to free sites and advertising clickcash and made 4x more what I was making with my membership sites.
Membership sites are nice because of the rebilling BUT sucks when you get 1,000's of rebills and the 3rd party biller goes under, or you lose your own merchant account, and say good bye to hundreds of thousands of future rebils. I also noticed that people were signing up 4x more to the free site then they were from my paysite, from the same exact traffic. So even if you charge $30 and you keep $25 after processing fees, and your average rebill is 3 months (which is high) you net $75 before other expenses from 1 signup. With the same traffic I am getting 4 free signups @ $40+ a peice. So thats a total of $160 i make opposed to $75 with the same traffic. And i get paid right away, you wait for 3 months to make that plus a lot longer for holdbacks. Now there is the time factor as well, free sites no more customer service emails, no more billing emails, no more webmaster support period. Also a lot less updates, no more updating members area and shooting pics or buying them, however you do it.
So Free sites do sell a lot more then paid, they make a lot more, and they give you a lot more time to make a lot more money~!
just my
ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
Comment
-
fuck man, that's some sweet stuff, I wanna roll wit' uOriginally posted by will76Hey debbie, I use to run memberships sites while back. Was making abouthalf that (profit) each month. Then I switched to free sites and advertising clickcash and made 4x more what I was making with my membership sites.
Membership sites are nice because of the rebilling BUT sucks when you get 1,000's of rebills and the 3rd party biller goes under, or you lose your own merchant account, and say good bye to hundreds of thousands of future rebils. I also noticed that people were signing up 4x more to the free site then they were from my paysite, from the same exact traffic. So even if you charge $30 and you keep $25 after processing fees, and your average rebill is 3 months (which is high) you net $75 before other expenses from 1 signup. With the same traffic I am getting 4 free signups @ $40+ a peice. So thats a total of $160 i make opposed to $75 with the same traffic. And i get paid right away, you wait for 3 months to make that plus a lot longer for holdbacks. Now there is the time factor as well, free sites no more customer service emails, no more billing emails, no more webmaster support period. Also a lot less updates, no more updating members area and shooting pics or buying them, however you do it.
So Free sites do sell a lot more then paid, they make a lot more, and they give you a lot more time to make a lot more money~!
just my
I just emailed you.
Comment
-
right on, the truth shall set you free.Originally posted by flashfire
I encourage anyone else that is thinking of posting how much they made, what ever it is, to go ahead and do it. There is noone here you need to worry about impressing.
Its so fucking liberating.
Weez be havin' an InComeing Out party!
Last edited by PornHero; 03-03-2005, 02:53 PM.Comment
-
ur on my list, but u have autho. maybe laterif you need more than 3 clicks to get to a join page, something is wrong ;)
p.s. i still bring the sales whores here.Comment
-
-
Well good for you. I just hope that you are saving the shiny pennies.PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic
AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online!
TChicks.com | Angeles Cid | Mariana Cordoba | MAILERS WELCOME!Comment
-
one of the dumbest things said in the history of the english languageOriginally posted by Pimp DoughComment
-
Why won't click cash set up epass payments ?Comment
-
Comment
-
I dont know but if you refer me I dont see why I can get the check and pass you the moneyOriginally posted by DarkJedi no bullshit, but not sure they would like that. I would have to check. I wouldn't mind depositing it and sending it through epassport to you.
ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
Comment
-
looks good.. nice cash and good site
TrafficCashGold Paying Webmasters Since 1996!
Awesome Conversions! Fast Weekly Payments! Over 125 Tours!Comment
-
Nice blog. Great insites.Comment
-
300K in Janwe'll miss you our friend. RIPComment
-
Wait a second... The sales you are earning from Clickcash are simply from promoting freesites to sites like Jays-xxx-links, etc?Originally posted by will76Hey debbie, I use to run memberships sites while back. Was making abouthalf that (profit) each month. Then I switched to free sites and advertising clickcash and made 4x more what I was making with my membership sites.
Membership sites are nice because of the rebilling BUT sucks when you get 1,000's of rebills and the 3rd party biller goes under, or you lose your own merchant account, and say good bye to hundreds of thousands of future rebils. I also noticed that people were signing up 4x more to the free site then they were from my paysite, from the same exact traffic. So even if you charge $30 and you keep $25 after processing fees, and your average rebill is 3 months (which is high) you net $75 before other expenses from 1 signup. With the same traffic I am getting 4 free signups @ $40+ a peice. So thats a total of $160 i make opposed to $75 with the same traffic. And i get paid right away, you wait for 3 months to make that plus a lot longer for holdbacks. Now there is the time factor as well, free sites no more customer service emails, no more billing emails, no more webmaster support period. Also a lot less updates, no more updating members area and shooting pics or buying them, however you do it.
So Free sites do sell a lot more then paid, they make a lot more, and they give you a lot more time to make a lot more money~!
just my
Comment
-
-
thanks. I bookmarked it.Comment
-
wow, quiet posted in my thread. I am truly honoured. I'm not kidding.Originally posted by quiet
For all you newbies... I remember a long time ago seeing a statement/stats that quiet posted and THAT was motivation for me.
All hail King quiet.
Comment
-
I get traffic from everywhere not just from free link list sites. When I say advertise Free sites, I am talking about my pages that I send my traffic to, which consist of single solo girl pages to full blown sites with free content that advertise ifriends.Originally posted by AdultNexWait a second... The sales you are earning from Clickcash are simply from promoting freesites to sites like Jays-xxx-links, etc?
ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
Comment
-
ditto... respect.Originally posted by PornHeroComment
-
amen to that...Originally posted by Meloman
I still remember finding out what you do and going 'like cool!' (and also like CRAP, your setup is a lot of work ;))
.......but I agree, you def gotta keep those type of setups on the d/l...keeping your edge as long as you can is a good thing while figuring out the next pot of gold setup...Investor with 5m - 15m USD to invest. Do you have a site or network of sites earning 50k - 200k a month income? Email your contact and preliminary data to: domain.cashventures (at) gmail.com....Please...no tire kickers...serious offers and inquiries only.
Comment
-
Thanks for a nice thread PH! You seem to be a nice guy. Threads like these motivates me!Originally posted by PornHeroask and ye shall receive
icq 161-550-420
if anyone else wants to add me to their icq go ahead, then make a post here and I'll authorize you
Might hit u up on ICQ regardings blogging.M&A QueenComment
-
We r waiting for the promise =)
We r waiting for the promise =)Comment
-
for what?Originally posted by stepmind
I don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
-
nice! =)Comment
-
wheres my free ipod?Comment
-
Dude,Originally posted by iforgotmyscreenname
I'm sooo sorry, I was packing it up to send to you and I went to take a piss and I dropped it by accident!
Do you still want it? Post your mailing address if you do.Comment
-
Wow real content on GFY that doesn't involve asking the question
'would you hit it' or attempting grosss/scare you....
hey PH added you to ICQComment
-
Exact samething hereOriginally posted by PornHeroFor all you newbies... I remember a long time ago seeing a statement/stats that quiet posted and THAT was motivation for me.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Merrioc
I would hit the IPOD
Comment
Comment