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  • adonis
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2002
    • 231

    #1

    Russian Revsharer fraud

    I noticed that someone from Russia (or Eastern Europe) signed up for our Ibill Revsharer program several times (5-6) under different names and addresses. He buys subscriptions frequently using Mastercard. I cancelled all the subscriptions I could pick. These users didn't login at all.

    What's the point? How can he earn money with different names and addresses? Ibill will send checks to different countries.

    Is there a way to overcome this fraud? I deleted these Revsharer ID's already.

    How do I receive an email everytime a Ibill Revsharer joins my program?

    Should I issue refunds? CB's might increase my Mastercard CB ratio.
  • twistyneck
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jan 2002
    • 4660

    #2
    I find it hard to believe that a Russian would be involved.

    I guess I'd ask iBill what they suggest.

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    • tolik
      Confirmed User
      • Jun 2001
      • 2035

      #3
      Originally posted by adonis
      I noticed that someone from Russia (or Eastern Europe) signed up for our Ibill Revsharer program several times (5-6) under different names and addresses.
      very interesting reading.

      and thread title.

      but tell me - how you figure what this are same person and from russia?
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      • beemk
        CLICK HERE
        • Jan 2002
        • 20829

        #4
        call ibill, dont they have support? i would issue refunds thoug before you get the chargebacks
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        • adonis
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2002
          • 231

          #5
          Originally posted by tolik
          very interesting reading.

          and thread title.

          but tell me - how you figure what this are same person and from russia?
          I am very sure. they have similar russian names (Russian or Romanian). their revshare IDs have similar pattern. Hits from their ID's are from invalid domain names or some pages without our links...

          Ibill support cannot help much. I'll contact my rep on Monday.

          As I know a refund is no better than a chargeback if it's a Mastercard. Mastercard sums refunds+CBs when calculating the ratio. Am I wrong?

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          • TzarJorge
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2003
            • 659

            #6
            Originally posted by adonis
            I am very sure. they have similar russian names (Russian or Romanian)
            lol lol lol lol lol lol
            You won the MORON OF THE YEAR PRIZE!

            Romanian and Russian languages comes from different roots...

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            • Dirty F
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jul 2001
              • 59204

              #7
              Cant be Russian man, those are the most honest people i know.

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              • tolik
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2001
                • 2035

                #8
                Originally posted by TzarJorge
                lol lol lol lol lol lol
                You won the MORON OF THE YEAR PRIZE!

                Romanian and Russian languages comes from different roots...
                so true...

                btw, russian people dont use their names as login...
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                • TzarJorge
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 659

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Battuss
                  Cant be Russian man, those are the most honest people i know.


                  your lastname look like dutch or nepalian right?

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                  • Netmax
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 335

                    #10
                    Originally posted by adonis
                    I am very sure. they have similar russian names (Russian or Romanian). their revshare IDs have similar pattern. Hits from their ID's are from invalid domain names or some pages without our links...

                    Ibill support cannot help much. I'll contact my rep on Monday.

                    As I know a refund is no better than a chargeback if it's a Mastercard. Mastercard sums refunds+CBs when calculating the ratio. Am I wrong?
                    sorry, you are stupid guy

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                    • RicardoB
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 2576

                      #11
                      Originally posted by beemk
                      call ibill, dont they have support? i would issue refunds thoug before you get the chargebacks
                      Ibill and support? From what planet are you?

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                      • Kirkos Makarios
                        Registered User
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 79

                        #12
                        Tell me the usernamesand the URLs.

                        I may help.
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                        • JamesK
                          hi
                          • Jun 2002
                          • 16731

                          #13
                          Maybe it's a fraud group. Several people who card programs.
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                          • MarkIBill
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 125

                            #14
                            Adonis,

                            There are several things that you can do to minimize or eliminate this from happening. Please contact us so we can help you with you current situation. You can contact [email protected] or myself directly. I am at [email protected] (954-255-9764 or 888-237-1764 x4602).

                            I would recommend you set up a link on your site to sign up new revsharers. You can then (manually add or post) the revsharers that you want to do business with. We are also working on a few enhancements to revshare that will give additional verification processes.

                            Mark

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                            • milambur
                              Mainstream since 2010
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 1327

                              #15
                              Originally posted by adonis
                              I noticed that someone from Russia (or Eastern Europe) signed up for our Ibill Revsharer program several times (5-6) under different names and addresses. He buys subscriptions frequently using Mastercard. I cancelled all the subscriptions I could pick. These users didn't login at all.

                              What's the point? How can he earn money with different names and addresses? Ibill will send checks to different countries.

                              Is there a way to overcome this fraud? I deleted these Revsharer ID's already.

                              How do I receive an email everytime a Ibill Revsharer joins my program?

                              Should I issue refunds? CB's might increase my Mastercard CB ratio.
                              The guy is checking if you are shaving, ignore him.
                              edit: And it's not fraud, he ain't cheating you of any money is he?
                              Last edited by milambur; 05-24-2004, 02:11 PM.
                              Alea iacta est

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                              • Doctor Dre
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 51692

                                #16
                                Originally posted by twistyneck
                                I find it hard to believe that a Russian would be involved.

                                I guess I'd ask iBill what they suggest.
                                Was that sarcasm or are you russian ?
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