well not to be to blunt here steve but you know me I will.. she's a greedy whore... 24k a year for nothging oplus what she has already made? she all of a sudden thinks she has abrain... you will not sink without her filming for you... fact is I thought she was long gone along time ago you remember me asking youLOL... bro you will be fine and you were paying her to much anyways... grand a week tops for the site even when she was shooting... these are girls... fuck the people that say "oh steve she made you millions" fuck them... this is buisness... what about people all over the world making millions off of cheap labor (construction mexicians) know what I mean... thats just called smart buisness... hit me up if you wanna chat bro
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Biting the hand that feeds you is never a good idea.
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Not to mention biting the hand that feeds you, puts clothes on your back, buys you a house and makes you famous all over the world.Comment
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From one businessman to another Steve, for the kind of money I'm assuming that girl makes your company, I'd have given her some kind of sweet equity participation deal to keep her going for you guys.
$10K a month isn't a lot of money these days to someone bringing in millions.
Doesn't matter if she is just a model or not.
I'll give someone $1 to bring me $5 all day and night long.
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Here's a link you could send her as a response:
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Yep, send he on her wayOriginally posted by spunkyTime to find a younger Tawnee
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Double that for me...Originally posted by KRL
Damn KRL sometimes you say the sexiest shit late at night
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Sounds like you made your decision and formed a gameplan all in one paragraph. Gitter done Steve :DOriginally posted by LightspeedComment
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you only pay her $2K? Shit Ill pay her double to sit under my desk and suck on my balls all day.
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Hello, line oneOriginally posted by the Shemp
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How the fuck did this grow to 8 pages while I was sleepingComment
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Any change of sigspot?
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But what if they turn around and wanted $4 to bring you $5? Would you still be interested, especially if you're doing all the work and paying all the expenses? I think that is what happened to Steve.Originally posted by KRLSomebody stole my damn signture...Comment
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Ohmy.Originally posted by AlienQDouble that for me...
Damn KRL sometimes you say the sexiest shit late at night
I want video rights.
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"Tawnee made Steve millions"? Nuh uh. Steve made Steve millions. The world is filled with cute, young girls. Go get one and make millions if you think the girl "makes the millions".
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That's a very incorrect, ridiculous and typical porn company mentality way to look at it Colin.Originally posted by Almighty Colin If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor
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The world is full of mainstream actors, but not all make millions for a company.Originally posted by Almighty ColinComment
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It's not a lot of money to somebody netting millions. Bringing in millions and having millions in profit are quite different. I don't know Steve's books so he'll have to be the judge whether he's being a cheap ass or not. If he is, then he will lose because it would be better to keep her by payng her extra pocket change.Originally posted by KRL
Isn't Steve the same guy that buys his employees nice expensive sports cars? It would seem to me he's quite fair. But again, I don't know the financial side and he'll have to do what he knows is right. If he's undercutting her and/or can spare to pay more, he would be better to pay her some more and keep her on board. I also say he asks her parents to talk to her. They want what's best for their girl and they know she makes good money and they probably know that it won't be easy for her to find something else that pays so well.
$10k for a few hours each month is a lot of money.Last edited by Drake; 02-24-2005, 03:00 AM.Comment
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If that girl would have made her own site and tried to market it no one would have ever heard of her or her site. There's a big difference between being a pretty young face and having business savvy.Originally posted by KRL
I present her own email as evidence. She didn't write Steve and tell him about how she was going to go start her own company and how she was going to market it and how she was going to get affiliates and keep all her money. No, she talked about how she was going to email 200 possible sites looking for a new EMPLOYER.
On top of that, 99% of the affiliate programs out there would not have done as well with Tawnee Stone as Steve did. He's created a brand.
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I think it's pretty clear from Steve's msgs in this thread that it's not just about money. It sounds like he's wanting more for the site to push it forward, I mean really apart from the one-off sex scenes with her boyfriend and Jordan Capri it's just been sets of her naked and smiling... for 4 years. On top of that there's the ego problem and as a couple of others have said, she can be difficult in front of the camera as well.Originally posted by KRL
Since she is approaching other companies she may find herself in this exact same situation once the contract with them runs out. Plus, if she walks away from Steve's $24k no compete offer there's no guarantee she'll even make that much elsewhere.Comment
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Originally posted by Almighty Colin
This is very true you can have the greatest product in the world but if you can't market it your doomed.
I still say let her go. Let her find out for herself the last few years was almost a free ride for her.
Steve you have been very generous with her but now she has gone beyond her prime with you. You have other girls that would be willing to more than she did. If she won't adapt and still wants the easy money time to show her the door.
My estimation is she'll be back ... asking to do more for you because she knows how you treated her.
Right now she thinks the grass is greener on the other side ... let her find out why it's greener.Comment
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i wonder if the other lightspeed models are afraid they might have to go a little hardcoreComment
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Although it pains me to say it, I agree with you.Originally posted by PerfectionGirlsComment
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Can someone tell me if this is real or another pathetic spam in the style Perfection Girls did yesterday, I don't have the time to read the whole 8 pages
Ok, looks like real, but from the original post it looked like she was earning only $2k per month.[/size]Last edited by polish_aristocrat; 02-24-2005, 04:05 AM.I don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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Originally posted by michel
will you do me a favorite and accept my gallery
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I believe this is a real issue with Steve, so no, it's not spam.Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
And please, give Lightspeed more credit than the whole Perfection Girls thing.
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Yes, I corrected myself, but from the original post i thought she makes only $2k per month, and then I saw the topic is 8 pages, so I was too busy to read it.Originally posted by Tala
But a few posts later on the 1st age I saw the explanation that she makes 130k per year.
And the topic suprised me anyway, especially since it was 1 day after the Perfection Girls stunt.I don't use ICQ anymore.Comment
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Understandable.Originally posted by polish_aristocratYes, I corrected myself, but from the original post i thought she makes only $2k per month, and then I saw the topic is 8 pages, so I was too busy to read it.
But a few posts later on the 1st age I saw the explanation that she makes 130k per year.
And the topic suprised me anyway, especially since it was 1 day after the Perfection Girls stunt.
I wish I could make $130k/year for being cute.
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Originally posted by pornstar2pacwill you do me a favorite and accept my gallery
What's the (part of) url?Comment
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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Don't even associate Steve with the likes of JeffscammerComment
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I am convinced most girls are dumb.Originally posted by BVF
They don't realise that they're just a cog in a system to make money from them taking off their clothes.
They leave, their money stops.
Am I the only one to see this?
EDIT: I meant 'girls' in a solo-teen sense, not a misogynistic sense.Last edited by quantum-x; 02-24-2005, 04:39 AM.Comment
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So she wasn't 1099, she was an actual employee?Originally posted by LightspeedComment
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Wow, that's deep... sad but trueOriginally posted by Soul_Rebel
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Anybody know what a typical model makes from a solo site that contains no hardcore?Originally posted by rowan
I doubt many make over $10k each month sheer profit....while having everything paid for, site updates, content produced, etc etc. Maybe I'm wrong, I really have no idea.
I can see her possibly making more in the future...but only if she does hardcore and it seems she doesn't want to do that (which is perfectly fine, it's her body and she decides how much of it to show).Comment
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But he's got other girls. Playboy Playmates sign a two year no nudity clause and get $25k spread out over two years. Tawnee has made way more than that for four years. And like Mike33 says, she's totally gotten to skip the poor young adulthood stage that most people deal with.Originally posted by KRLComment
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I don't think Tawnee is a smart girl even if she is in college. She could jump on Ifriends.com or Steamray and do cam shows and charge $10/per min.Originally posted by Almighty ColinComment
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They grow up so fastOriginally posted by spunkyWhoa..the chick is about to leave the nest?
Seriously, $2k is ridiculously low. I can't believe she signed that contract
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unemployment benifits + severence pay
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fucking dental next?want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.Comment
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This thread doesn't make either party look good, whatever the "reality" is.Comment
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Based on other posts of Steve. He did do this. And it was better then $1 for $5.Originally posted by KRL
An average girl is paid $300 a set or so. She has 350 sets out there. $10,500. He obviously paid her way more then this every year.Comment
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I made Tawnee cry once.Old SchoolComment
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fuck the bitch.. steve always did her right...
no sub for stupidity.. she'll blow it and wish... but it'll be too late..Comment
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i wonder how much money money twanee could get for a hardcore anal video from one of the large video companiesComment
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What's up, Dokk?Originally posted by dokk
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$300 x 350 = $105000Originally posted by slapass
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No shitOriginally posted by beemk
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Not getting the point. She is a diva and wont do hardcore. Part of the reason Steve is letting her go.Originally posted by bigdogOld SchoolComment
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My understanding is that ChristinaModel.com makes about $60k a month -for no hardcore, actually for NON nude- and she takes 40% of the income, THAT is paying your models well ( doesnt mean i would do that, but i admire that guy for paying that high ) and he has NOT ONE affiliate.. so it's not all about * spending millions marketing * it's a lot to do about the girl!Originally posted by Mike33
Like I said in my first post: If it was all about marketing and not so much about * yet another cute face * then EVERY SINGLE girl in Lisghspeed cash would be making as much or more than Tawny's site is, I mean the ppl who * made * tawny the * superstar * can make any other girl the superstar?? right??
WRONG! It is a very even deal.. She is just as much if not more important than the marketing!Comment
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