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A tip on how to enjoy this business more

05-21-2004, 05:35 PM

This hppens everyday

You hire someone to:

Program
Design
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Place an ad

etc.

You send them a check, a paypal etc.

Next day all of a sudden the dame fuck who you where able to reach anytime now is unreachable.

This is what you do

Tell them if you dont hear from them within 12 hours the check will be stopped, the paypal chargedback etc.

You still dont hear chargeback that fucker, cancel the fuckin check.

Stress doesnt come so much from being ripped off, its the process leading up to it, make the process short and enjoy life more.

Enjoy

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05-21-2004, 05:38 PM

Very true. I'm going nuts trying to contact someone myself who seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth.

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05-21-2004, 05:39 PM

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05-21-2004, 05:40 PM

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05-21-2004, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Very true. I'm going nuts trying to contact someone myself who seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth.

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yup trust me i learned not to buy any stories

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im not a cold person i just know its all bullshit

i send someone money i cant reach them next day or everything becomes a process I dont give anytime i cancel and find someone else

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05-21-2004, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by EscortBiz
This hppens everyday

You hire someone to:

Program
Design
Shoot Content
Place an ad

etc.

You send them a check, a paypal etc.

Next day all of a sudden the dame fuck who you where able to reach anytime now is unreachable.

This is what you do

Tell them if you dont hear from them within 12 hours the check will be stopped, the paypal chargedback etc.

You still dont hear chargeback that fucker, cancel the fuckin check.

Stress doesnt come so much from being ripped off, its the process leading up to it, make the process short and enjoy life more.

Enjoy

That's some really good advice I'm going to try to follow. Thanks.

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05-21-2004, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by EscortBiz
yup trust me i learned not to buy any stories

mother died fuck you

sister got cancer fuck you

your house on fire fuck you

your internet connection lost fuck you

im not a cold person i just know its all bullshit

i send someone money i cant reach them next day or everything becomes a process I dont give anytime i cancel and find someone else

follow this rule you will have a smile on your face more

There's a Jay-Z song with that.

Not selling any records, fuck you pay me.
Nobody came to your last concent, fuck you pay me.

and so on....it's how business is meant to be
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05-21-2004, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Very true. I'm going nuts trying to contact someone myself who seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth.

WG

I feel your pain. There seems to be a constant supply of companies and consultants who play the disappering act these days.

We spend thousands on outside services weekly and constantly get the run around.
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05-21-2004, 05:43 PM

theres no love in business, only money

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05-21-2004, 05:44 PM

Makes sense to me

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05-21-2004, 05:44 PM

Thanks for sending me money, EB.

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05-21-2004, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by egonetworks
There's a Jay-Z song with that.

Not selling any records, fuck you pay me.
Nobody came to your last concent, fuck you pay me.

and so on....it's how business is meant to be

goodfellas mentality

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05-21-2004, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by EscortBiz
yup trust me i learned not to buy any stories

mother died fuck you

sister got cancer fuck you

your house on fire fuck you

your internet connection lost fuck you

im not a cold person i just know its all bullshit

i send someone money i cant reach them next day or everything becomes a process I dont give anytime i cancel and find someone else

follow this rule you will have a smile on your face more

Yup, thankfully we have a contract but it hardly seems worth the legal resources to enforce it. Lesson learnt...

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05-21-2004, 06:01 PM

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05-21-2004, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by tical
goodfellas mentality

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05-21-2004, 06:05 PM

Solid fucking advice, i for one know i wont play games with these idiots anymore...

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05-21-2004, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by egonetworks
There's a Jay-Z song with that.

Not selling any records, fuck you pay me.
Nobody came to your last concent, fuck you pay me.

and so on....it's how business is meant to be

Not really.. its just how business unfortunatly HAS to be when youre dealing with degenerated animals like in this business.
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05-21-2004, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by egonetworks
There's a Jay-Z song with that.

Not selling any records, fuck you pay me.
Nobody came to your last concent, fuck you pay me.

and so on....it's how business is meant to be

LOL You make me feel old
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05-21-2004, 06:13 PM

trust is built over time - and always monitared

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05-21-2004, 07:29 PM

Great movie!

Originally posted by tical
goodfellas mentality

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05-21-2004, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by Jer
Thanks for sending me money, EB.

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05-21-2004, 09:23 PM

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05-21-2004, 09:33 PM

How about this then.

You shoot content for a guy, after telling him it's not your niche but he insists, and then the guy does not buy it even after you sent him the content.

Can't feel sorry for a guy who does that can you?

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05-21-2004, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by EscortBiz
yup trust me i learned not to buy any stories

mother died fuck you

sister got cancer fuck you

your house on fire fuck you

your internet connection lost fuck you

im not a cold person i just know its all bullshit

i send someone money i cant reach them next day or everything becomes a process I dont give anytime i cancel and find someone else

follow this rule you will have a smile on your face more

I agree,

You can't have any sort of compassion in business if you want to make money. You gotta be a machine.
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05-21-2004, 09:39 PM

So true! Models have a bad rep for being flakey but it's definitely not limited to them. I wonder if the anonymity of the internet makes it easier for people to be held less accountable.

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05-21-2004, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by MrIzzz
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05-21-2004, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by charly
How about this then.

You shoot content for a guy, after telling him it's not your niche but he insists, and then the guy does not buy it even after you sent him the content.

Can't feel sorry for a guy who does that can you?

no but you can shoot him

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05-22-2004, 07:34 PM

I try to do business with only people who have good reps, it seems to be the only real way to be assured that you'll get what you pay for. Going the legal route is too time consuming and too costly sometimes, so I figure that if a person has a good reputation on the boards they have something they don't want to loose. So far it's worked well for me.

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05-22-2004, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by graphicsbytia
I try to do business with only people who have good reps, it seems to be the only real way to be assured that you'll get what you pay for. Going the legal route is too time consuming and too costly sometimes, so I figure that if a person has a good reputation on the boards they have something they don't want to loose. So far it's worked well for me.

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chances are if they stiff you taking them to court won't help, because they prolly don't have any money.
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05-22-2004, 09:06 PM

Yep - I have 3 different design shops on a project and ALL of them are dragging ass and incommunicado since I cut them the paypal.

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05-22-2004, 09:16 PM

EB

I know exactly what you mean.

Now i tell knew people that i will flame the living fuck out of them if they fuck me over. Ever since implementing this rule it seems i get evrything that was agreed and on time.

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05-22-2004, 09:16 PM

Good advice. As a rule, designers and photographers are flaky as hell.
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05-22-2004, 09:18 PM

Its design shops like them that screw up business for people like myself .... a couple of my clients have been screwed over in the past, and lost a great deal of money and time in the process... it fucks me off because for a design shop like myslef who doesnt have a huge reputation but takes client liasion, customer satisfaction, and project reliability extremely seriously... it makes people less comfortable with trying out the new guy

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05-23-2004, 05:48 AM

I did some work for just a few people (all with good rep), this way I could ask for payment just after I delivered the full project.

They don't have to worry being screwed and if shit happens more likely they'll trust you and you can give a discount if needed or something like that.
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05-23-2004, 06:10 AM

Note to self: Answer the phone until the cheque clears.....

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05-23-2004, 06:16 AM

yeah money and trust should be given out sparingly in this business

too many fuckos who dont like the way things work out for themselves so they turn on anyone who is the least bit successful

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05-23-2004, 06:24 AM

Originally posted by EscortBiz
This hppens everyday

You hire someone to:

Program
Design
Shoot Content
Place an ad

etc.

You send them a check, a paypal etc.

Next day all of a sudden the dame fuck who you where able to reach anytime now is unreachable.

This is what you do

Tell them if you dont hear from them within 12 hours the check will be stopped, the paypal chargedback etc.

You still dont hear chargeback that fucker, cancel the fuckin check.

Stress doesnt come so much from being ripped off, its the process leading up to it, make the process short and enjoy life more.

Enjoy

Very true the only real way to deal withit correctly

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05-23-2004, 06:27 AM

Thats actually very true
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05-23-2004, 06:28 AM

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Very true. I'm going nuts trying to contact someone myself who seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth.

WG

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05-23-2004, 06:40 AM

Originally posted by EscortBiz
yup trust me i learned not to buy any stories

mother died fuck you

sister got cancer fuck you

your house on fire fuck you

your internet connection lost fuck you

im not a cold person i just know its all bullshit

i send someone money i cant reach them next day or everything becomes a process I dont give anytime i cancel and find someone else

follow this rule you will have a smile on your face more

Wise words.
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05-23-2004, 06:57 AM

Originally posted by Manowar
Thats actually very true

yes, and it really pisses me off when someone claims they have a group of workers ready to do the job and then doesn't return messages... know what I mean??

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05-23-2004, 07:05 AM

Originally posted by SleazyDream
trust is built over time - and always monitared

Best response here.

Great thread EB.
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05-23-2004, 07:14 AM

Two ways to get fucked.. With and with out the reach around.

Sometime is best to make your point I have been know to show up on a door step to just to get my point across. Rarely is it worth the money but you have to let people know that can't fuck you.

I don't like being fucked with our with out the reach arounf.

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05-23-2004, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by Easton
sorry to hear that...

From the last person I would have expected too
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05-23-2004, 12:06 PM

i am going through a similar situation now. i hope it does not turn out bad
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