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  • L0stMind
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    • Sep 2002
    • 1681

    #1

    Do you keep backups of your sites?

    If so, how do you do it? I'd be curious to know what format and what media you use as well... tar and dvd or a zip on your hard drive or?
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    Yes, weekly
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    Yes, monthly
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    Yea.... once in a while when I remember to do it....
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    Nah, my hosting is secure, my shit is safe.
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  • Strife
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    • Aug 2001
    • 4534

    #2
    I backup all my sites on dvd and also have them on my HD
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    • Heather Hamptons
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      • Oct 2003
      • 2306

      #3
      I download my entire site from my server (which takes a while) and then burn it to dvd. Cd's don't have enough space.
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      • Adultnet
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        • Sep 2003
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        #4
        yes I do back up my sites using 2 servers,my pc (.rar format), hard drive, cds...


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        • JFPdude
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          • Jan 2002
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          #5
          I keep zips on cd's at my wifes computer desk.

          I keep tars on different servers than the server the sites on.

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          • Project-Shadow
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            • Feb 2003
            • 7340

            #6
            I have all my websites on my HD and back it up every now and then. Odd's of my server and HD both dying are pretty slim.

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            • megatgpdotnet
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              • Jun 2004
              • 1296

              #7
              I do backups every week.
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              • mortenb
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                • Jul 2004
                • 2203

                #8
                I do all my sites on my local development server and that run backups every night. Any online stuff is just copied from my dev server..

                All my online db's run backup every hour/day (hour or day, depending on how important the data is) and e-mails the data to an account on my dev server..

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                • zentz
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                  • Nov 2003
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                  #9
                  i use daily remote backup
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                  • IceMaster
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                    • Jan 2005
                    • 8920

                    #10
                    Yeah , i am hosting some users so i must backup all.

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                    • Babagirls
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                      • Feb 2001
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                      #11
                      i back everything up on a weekly basis.




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                      • Manowar
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                        #12
                        Weekly backups.

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                        • PoKo
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                          • Jan 2005
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                          #13
                          I think I will in the future... See result of not doing it in sig..
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                          • tranza
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                            • Jun 2003
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                            #14
                            I have them all on my HD and some in CDs...
                            I'm just a newbie.

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                            • L0stMind
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                              • Sep 2002
                              • 1681

                              #15
                              Wow, seems either more people backup then I thought or....

                              Those who don't back up are neglecting to post

                              Hopefully, this poll raises awareness that backing up your data is important. Look at poor Roger above.

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                              • amaze
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                                • Feb 2004
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                                #16
                                I have them on 3 HD and also on DVD´s
                                Last edited by amaze; 02-22-2005, 11:07 AM.

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                                • Dalai lama
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                                  #17
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                                  • Funbrunette
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                                    #18
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                                    • Basic_man
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                                      • Oct 2003
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                                      #19
                                      I don't do it often enough
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                                      • garce
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                                        • Oct 2001
                                        • 7103

                                        #20
                                        I burn everything onto dvd weekly and keep mirrors of my sites on my hd. Just did a MySql backup last night.

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                                        • WarChild
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                                          • Jan 2003
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                                          #21
                                          I let my kick ass number one host, Dweeks, handle all that crap.
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                                          • Prof.Dr. Den
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                                            • Jan 2005
                                            • 442

                                            #22
                                            i backup them weekly with all databases

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                                            • stev0
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                                              • Aug 2003
                                              • 6801

                                              #23
                                              of course

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                                              • Miguel
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                                                • Apr 2004
                                                • 2978

                                                #24
                                                We burn content to DVDs and back up to second server. Once our primary host had a problem with his datacenter and we were using back up server more than 24 hours. So if you're running a site with big number of visitors and members you'd better have solution on case of host problems.
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                                                • borked
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                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                  • 6284

                                                  #25
                                                  can't believe nobody mentioned redundant RAID drives?

                                                  Not a backup, granted, but a HD WILL die at some point - why risk putting your backup abilities to the test and all the pain, headaches and downtime until you can restore from backup?

                                                  Yes backup is essential, and offsite backup at that (not onto a second HD on the server...what if a tornado hit the DC?), but RAID1 is at the least the minimum in combo with daily offsite backups...


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                                                  • L0stMind
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                                                    #26
                                                    Well, raid can definitely help, depending on the setup. However, it is a pricey alternative and most people on dedicated servers can't afford it. Backing up to your home pc or paying your hosting company $10-25 per month to do it is still cheaper then a proper raid setup.

                                                    Warchild - if I was in your shoes, I'd still have a local copy of my sites. I don't care how kickass a host is, shit happens. Airplanes flying into buildings and shit can really fuck up a backup plan

                                                    Not saying that having your host backup your shit is a bad idea... actually I'd say it's a pretty smart idea. Having a backup of your shit at the datacenter makes recovery a helluva lot faster then uploading from your home connection.

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                                                    • borked
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                                                      #27
                                                      beside the cost of the extra HD (say $10/mo for 80GB) a raid system should definately not cost no more than $10/mo and talking with your host you should easily get away with a $100 one-time fee to have RAID setup (talking about basic RAID1 of course)

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                                                      • Angus McDanger
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                                                        • Feb 2005
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                                                        #28
                                                        I do daily db backups onto another hd, but I should really be using something more permanent like dvds.

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                                                        • L0stMind
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                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                          • 1681

                                                          #29
                                                          Wow. Must be software raid, something I wouldnt trust with my data

                                                          A decent raid setup, would involve a raid card and an extra drive. If your host sells you this for $10 per month, rest assured this card is garbage.

                                                          And raid1 doesnt make me sleep easy at night anyways

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                                                          • flashfire
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                                                            #30
                                                            whenever I make changes I make backups

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                                                            • MattO
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                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                              • 10861

                                                              #31
                                                              Since I have physical access to my server, I plug a USB external hard drive to it and back the whole thing up.

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                                                              • latinasojourn
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                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                • 3191

                                                                #32
                                                                well, i am supposed to have weekly in-house backup for my dedicated boxes at webair.

                                                                the question is--has anyone using this service had a failure---and if so, how fast did you recover?

                                                                i'd be very interested in knowing.

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                                                                • borked
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                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                  • 6284

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by L0stMind
                                                                  Wow. Must be software raid, something I wouldnt trust with my data

                                                                  A decent raid setup, would involve a raid card and an extra drive. If your host sells you this for $10 per month, rest assured this card is garbage.

                                                                  And raid1 doesnt make me sleep easy at night anyways
                                                                  Not at all = $10 for an ATA RAID board and $10 for the extra drive (I never said $10 for all). In fact I pay $10 for the extra drive (these are SATA drive BTW) and I paid a flat $100 fee for installation of the RIAD controller and configuration.

                                                                  And why the heck wouldn't you sleep well at night with a RAID1 setup? My setup is RAID 1/0 which is as fast as a RAID5 setup. Would have been nicer with SCSI drives, but the server is doing just fine.

                                                                  Really can't see why RAID1 would worry you.

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                                                                  • borked
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by L0stMind
                                                                    If your host sells you this for $10 per month, rest assured this card is garbage.
                                                                    Ehm, Quality RAID controllers aren't as expensive as you may think - industry leading cards (eg the Broadcom RAIDCore falmily) wholesale for $150-230

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                                                                    • chaze
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by latinasojourn
                                                                      well, i am supposed to have weekly in-house backup for my dedicated boxes at webair.

                                                                      the question is--has anyone using this service had a failure---and if so, how fast did you recover?

                                                                      i'd be very interested in knowing.

                                                                      If your on Cpanel then it only back ups 2 gigs per domain.

                                                                      Maybe check on that.

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                                                                      I back up my sites through ftp onto my hard drive with every change and can have them back up as fast as my DSL can move the files.
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                                                                      • borked
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                                                                        • Feb 2005
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Another thing to chew on if we are talking about people with dedicated servers - backing up your data is one thing, but anyone backing up /etc or /usr ? A fried hard drive can be replaced and your data put back on from backup, but what about all those config files? Those custom software installations? All those patches? Are sure the version of gzip that is currently on your server HD is the same as the gzip that was present when the drive was setup? Maybe it got updated during the time you have been on the server? If so, your backups may not unzip properly...


                                                                        It really is an absolute nightmare recovering from a fried harddrive and will take at least 48h of hard work getting a server back to its original configuration...
                                                                        even if your server is fully managed, your server admin does not make custom images of your HD to restore the drive to its original state minus your data. It needs to be restored using the OS image then repatching then applying all the apache/php/mysql/etc configs then reinstalling any extra software that was there before you can re-apply your data. It's maybe not you that does it, but it takes time and all the while, your server is not live...

                                                                        I'm not scaremonguering, just giving a heads-up. I would say that around a third of people think they are safe with their backups, but a backup is only good if it can be restored successfully - have you ever tried restoring your backup to make sure it's good?

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                                                                        • lloyd
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                                                                          • May 2002
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          visual sourcesafe daily to another local machine i keep and rars that i upload offsite once a week.

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                                                                          • venus
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                                                                            • Jan 2003
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            I have a raid array on my server and all my data is automatically mirrored to prevent data loss.
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                                                                            • PbG
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                                                                              • May 2003
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              We backup all our sites to two(2) remote offsite servers, DVD/CD, and locally.

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                                                                              • ShaneRyale
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                                                                                • Mar 2004
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                I backup twice a week. We use RAID 10 and also mirror our storage array to another array. With Terabytes of content it would take alot of DVD's to back that upto
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                                                                                • AdultNex
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                                                                                  • Feb 2003
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  What's the easiest way to backup all your information from your server?

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                                                                                  • lloyd
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                                                                                    • May 2002
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by AdultNex
                                                                                    What's the easiest way to backup all your information from your server?
                                                                                    pay someone else too do it. your hosting company probably offers a service.

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                                                                                    • borked
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                                                                                      • Feb 2005
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by AdultNex
                                                                                      What's the easiest way to backup all your information from your server?
                                                                                      To be honest - all this DVD backup stuff is great, since it gives an archival copy, but it's not very practical. Perhaps once a month etc.

                                                                                      For safe daily incremental backups, there best option is to ackup to a remote server (or to 2nd HD on the same server at the very minimum) using rsync. If backing up remotely, don't forget to backup over SSL.

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