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  • tony286
    lurker
    • Aug 2002
    • 57021

    #1

    Why not use quicktime?

    I was playing with doing some encoding in quicktime and I was very impressed. Why would one use quicktime as the encoder of choice for a site? I figure everyone has it.
  • doober
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2003
    • 6984

    #2
    you figured wrong

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    • M_M
      Confirmed User
      • May 2004
      • 1167

      #3
      wmv 9, divx, xvid are all superior compression methods compared to quicktime
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      • EviLGuY
        So Fucking Banned
        • Apr 2003
        • 12745

        #4
        I like quicktime .mov's for the quality.. but the software isn't pre-installed for most people. So its one more step..

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        • Mutt
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Sep 2002
          • 34431

          #5
          do you have stats on any of your sites which show how many people have the QT plugin?

          it's small, i haven't checked in awhile but it's small.

          MPEG-1 - the overwhelmingly most popular format still. tho i think there are some connoisseurs out there that want DivX in broadcast quality but most guys just want a good MPEG. Mpegs are playable without hassle by 99% of surfers.
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          • loverboy
            When it rains, it pours
            • May 2003
            • 20609

            #6
            Originally posted by EviLGuY
            I like quicktime .mov's for the quality.. but the software isn't pre-installed for most people. So its one more step..

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            • smokingdawn
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2004
              • 2808

              #7
              Quicktime is not bad but I prefer .wmv files

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              • Digipimp
                BP4L OT DL
                • Mar 2003
                • 13481

                #8
                Originally posted by M_M
                wmv 9, divx, xvid are all superior compression methods compared to quicktime
                someone is smoking the glass dick

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                • TheMob?
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 8584

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Digipimp
                  someone is smoking the glass dick

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                  • Magg
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 4467

                    #10
                    everyone who isnt encoding in multiple formats to give people an option is missing out.


                    If it isnt a fucking WMV file, I dont bother watching it, signing up for it, voting for it, rubbing it with goat pee.


                    Im not going to install fucking other progs which fuck my system reg up and settings and everything.


                    and a special FUCK YOU to people who encode in RealPlayer... you fucking tards.

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                    • Meta Ridley
                      Confirmed User
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 3433

                      #11
                      Quicktime is shit

                      Real is shit

                      Will not install either on my system. Both try to hijack everything.

                      Say what you will about wmp, but it is the best. And wmv compression is great.
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                      • Digipimp
                        BP4L OT DL
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 13481

                        #12
                        so many clueless people in this biz. speak about what you know, not what you think you know.

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                        • Meta Ridley
                          Confirmed User
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 3433

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Digipimp
                          so many clueless people in this biz. speak about what you know, not what you think you know.

                          Quick compression is nice but thier player sucks.
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                          • Digipimp
                            BP4L OT DL
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 13481

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Meta Ridley
                            Quick compression is nice but thier player sucks.
                            it's the best there is, you ever think for a minute to realize that windows and microsoft is the problem, not the player. that MS does everything they can to hinder quicktime and real on their platform.

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                            • Magg
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 4467

                              #15
                              im not commenting on the quality abilities, just their 'Q Factors'.

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                              • Meta Ridley
                                Confirmed User
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 3433

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Digipimp
                                it's the best there is, you ever think for a minute to realize that windows and microsoft is the problem, not the player. that MS does everything they can to hinder quicktime and real on their platform.
                                I wouldnt doubt it, but both real and quicktime do the same thing when you install them on your system.

                                But the point, using wmv , means one less step for the surfer to see video (nnost surfers anyway) Quciktime is good to offer in addition to windows media format. Whats the point of real player?
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                                • Centurion
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 6033

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Digipimp
                                  someone is smoking the glass dick
                                  "wmv 9, divx, xvid are all superior compression methods compared to quicktime"

                                  They most definitely are better than quicktime.
                                  Do an easy comparison test..encode a movie in quicktime, and use the SAME bit rate with wmv9 or divx..you will not only see the higher quality of the video, but also smaller file size.

                                  And it has been my experience that the surfer will also pay for a video that is larger in byte size as long as the QUALITY is better too.

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                                  • More Booze
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Mar 2004
                                    • 5116

                                    #18
                                    I really hate Quicktime and Realplayer, I dont want to have 3 different media players installed.

                                    Use Quicktime Alternative and Real Alternative to play these files in WMP.

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                                    • Meta Ridley
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Sep 2003
                                      • 3433

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by More Booze
                                      I really hate Quicktime and Realplayer, I dont want to have 3 different media players installed.

                                      Use Quicktime Alternative and Real Alternative to play these files in WMP.

                                      Same here
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                                      • tahiti
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Oct 2003
                                        • 699

                                        #20
                                        wmv: great compression, ugly movies and not crossplateform evn if mac version exist. Streams takes ages, and require MS OS to run And VERY VERY bad security.

                                        Real: compression suck goats in hell, ugly quality, but faster start for streaming.

                                        Quicktime: fair compression (supports many formats such as the latest 3gpp for cell phones and mepg4 clear crytal quality), very cross plateform. You can customize skins etc...

                                        Most people who blame qt because the don't know how to use or setup quicktime! Using it just exporting to mov sucks, there're a lot of options to optimise the size for dl or for the stream.

                                        We use quicktime stream servers using rtp/rtsp it free and easy to setup. It runs on OSX server, linux, solaris, and winblows.
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                                        • tahiti
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 699

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by More Booze
                                          I really hate Quicktime and Realplayer, I dont want to have 3 different media players installed.

                                          Use Quicktime Alternative and Real Alternative to play these files in WMP.

                                          YOU DON'T HAVE PANCAKE HEAD!

                                          VLC is the most crossplateform player check that:
                                          http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html

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                                          • maxdaname
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Oct 2003
                                            • 5193

                                            #22
                                            I like Quicktime!

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                                            • tony299
                                              lurker
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 57021

                                              #23
                                              I have always used wmv 9 but for shits and giggles I tried qt and it looked good and I didnt have to tweek it like wm9.

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                                              • More Booze
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Mar 2004
                                                • 5116

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by tahiti
                                                YOU DON'T HAVE PANCAKE HEAD!

                                                VLC is the most crossplateform player check that:
                                                http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html

                                                get a life and google sometimes after porn

                                                I KNOW!!!

                                                "Use Quicktime Alternative and Real Alternative to play these files in WMP."


                                                However installed VLC and it looks ok

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                                                • MediumPimpin
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                  • 1488

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by tony404
                                                  I was playing with doing some encoding in quicktime and I was very impressed. Why would one use quicktime as the encoder of choice for a site? I figure everyone has it.
                                                  Looking at my logs on our member server about 3% use QT, for us it's a waste of space and time uploading the QT format, oh well trying to keep the 3% happy
                                                  nats.mediumpimpin.com

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                                                  • cayne
                                                    My time is coming...
                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                    • 7475

                                                    #26
                                                    I simply don't like that standard.
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                                                    • MediumPimpin
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                      • 1488

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by cayne
                                                      I simply don't like that standard.
                                                      It's time and money to give the minority this feature, the players are all free, for 3% of the surfers it may not be worth the effort to give them QT anymore, this is the same reason we stopped providing Real Player, no one complained.
                                                      nats.mediumpimpin.com

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                                                      • just a punk
                                                        So fuckin' bored
                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                        • 32385

                                                        #28
                                                        wmv rulez
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                                                        • tahiti
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                          • 699

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by MediumPimpin
                                                          It's time and money to give the minority this feature, the players are all free, for 3% of the surfers it may not be worth the effort to give them QT anymore, this is the same reason we stopped providing Real Player, no one complained.
                                                          2 things:

                                                          1-quicktime doesn't only play mov files but many other formats.

                                                          2-Ignoring more than 150 million potential users is a choice. I don't ignore them, it's my choice.

                                                          About the complains, do you think a guy is going to complain? Not sure he will switch before registering that's sure.
                                                          Last edited by tahiti; 05-20-2004, 03:03 PM.
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                                                          • DreamCumTrue
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                            • 2985

                                                            #30
                                                            i DO use it

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                                                            • zzgundamnzz
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                              • 6102

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by EviLGuY
                                                              I like quicktime .mov's for the quality.. but the software isn't pre-installed for most people. So its one more step..
                                                              Thats why I prefer wmv.

                                                              Compression quality to file size is excellent. Plus its readilly playable with 99% of all windows systems.


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                                                              • dunefield
                                                                www.barely18movies.com
                                                                • Feb 2003
                                                                • 10920

                                                                #32
                                                                i like quicktime... lot of movie trailers prefer to use quicktime because of it's great quality...

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                                                                • MediumPimpin
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                  • 1488

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by tahiti
                                                                  2 things:

                                                                  1-quicktime doesn't only play mov files but many other formats.

                                                                  2-Ignoring more than 150 million potential users is a choice. I don't ignore them, it's my choice.

                                                                  About the complains, do you think a guy is going to complain? Not sure he will switch before registering that's sure.
                                                                  Never said I ignore them what I am saying is the bottom wont be affected, which means QT is just a waste of my time.
                                                                  nats.mediumpimpin.com

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                                                                  • FTVGirls
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                    • 1052

                                                                    #34
                                                                    well if you mean wmv9, microsoft finally put out an update for mac users to play wmv9 a few months ago. It obliterates the need for quicktime, unless you have an older Mac 0S.

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