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  • Jedimaster
    Registered User
    • Dec 2003
    • 2120

    #1

    Man fired from job b/c he could not take a piss. (no pics)

    By MARK NIESSE, Associated Press Writer

    ATLANTA - A man who says he was fired by Caterpillar Inc. because he wasn't able to urinate for a drug test sued the equipment giant Wednesday, alleging discrimination.

    The plaintiff says he suffers from paruresis, more commonly known as shy bladder syndrome, and was physically unable to urinate into a specimen cup, despite having drunk 40 ounces of water and being given three hours to complete the task.


    Tom Smith, a 55-year-old assembly line worker, was suspended by Caterpillar a day after the aborted test in November, and dismissed on Dec. 5.

    "This is supposed to be a country where losing a job for a disorder like that shouldn't be a problem," said Smith, who worked at the company's Griffin plant more than three years. "It's just a matter of simple justice."

    Smith contends Caterpillar violated the Americans with Disabilities Act and that companies should offer alternate drug testing methods such as hair or blood tests. He wants his job back and unspecified monetary damages.

    Smith's lawsuit claims he ultimately was able to provide a urine sample during an exam by a doctor appointed by Caterpillar, but the company refused to test the sample because he failed to produce it within the allotted three-hour period.

    Smith passed an independent hair drug test he paid for himself before he was fired, but Caterpillar required him to pass the urine test. Hair tests are generally considered to be more accurate than urine tests and detect drug use over a few months rather than a few weeks.

    Peoria, Ill.-based Caterpillar says its drug tests are in place to protect employees' safety.

    "We believe that our drug testing policy does not violate the Americans with Disabilities Act, and we intend to defend against the allegations," said spokeswoman Linda Fairbanks, who declined further comment.

    Employers conduct about 45 million drug tests each year, and a vast majority use urine samples.

    Paruresis is recognized by the American Psychiatric Association as a social phobia, but no government agency has classified it as a disability, said Steven Soifer, president of the International Paruresis Association.

    As much as 7 percent of the general population has said in surveys they have trouble using the bathroom away from home, said Soifer, an associate professor of social work at the University of Maryland in Baltimore.
  • punker barbie
    Meow Meow!!!
    • Nov 2003
    • 10232

    #2
    the guy is a lying fuck, hes hidding something!
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    • TheHitman
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      • Feb 2004
      • 217

      #3
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      • S P A N N O W
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        • Mar 2004
        • 11941

        #4
        Gold-Seal...I've read...

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        • Rictor
          Old Timer
          • Jan 2001
          • 12208

          #5
          I've taken one piss test in my life and it was a degrading and humiliating experience. Unless your job involves others putting their lives in your hands (doctor, airline pilot, driver, etc.) I don't see a reason employees should have to do it.

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          • reynold
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Oct 2002
            • 51271

            #6
            40 ounces and no pee?

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            • Illicit
              wtf ?
              • Dec 2003
              • 11895

              #7
              Originally posted by Rictor
              I've taken one piss test in my life and it was a degrading and humiliating experience. Unless your job involves others putting their lives in your hands (doctor, airline pilot, driver, etc.) I don't see a reason employees should have to do it.
              I did one too... felt like a criminal they way they went about it...
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              • Basic_man
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                • Oct 2003
                • 27360

                #8
                Originally posted by punker barbie
                the guy is a lying fuck, hes hidding something!
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                • HAPPYPEEKERS
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                  • Feb 2004
                  • 7566

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Rictor
                  I've taken one piss test in my life and it was a degrading and humiliating experience. Unless your job involves others putting their lives in your hands (doctor, airline pilot, driver, etc.) I don't see a reason employees should have to do it.
                  I hear ya.. The one time i did take one.. The nurse stood INSIDE the bathroom with me!!!! Very Humiliating!!
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                  • Jedimaster
                    Registered User
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 2120

                    #10
                    Originally posted by deeprubs' wife
                    I hear ya.. The one time i did take one.. The nurse stood INSIDE the bathroom with me!!!! Very Humiliating!!
                    That could be a great reality site

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                    • Wicked Temptress
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2001
                      • 280

                      #11
                      I had to take a piss test when I became a security guard a while ago(I haven't been a security guard for some time now though.)

                      I was given 1 hour to drive to the place and get the test done. When I got there, of course I had to wait to be called. They had very strict rules. If you left the waiting room, you voided your appointment. No cell phones were allowed and you couldn't have anyone else with you.

                      When I was finally called back there, they made me empty my pockets and put ALL of my belongings into a wooden box, which was padlocked. They gave me the key and then I had to do the piss test.

                      It looked like they had a public restroom stall inside of an office. They didn't watch me pee, but just like in a public restroom, they could see my feet and the woman waited right outside the door for me.

                      When it was all over, I unlocked my stuff and left. Kind of crazy, but it wasn't too bad.
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                      • EviLGuY
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 12745

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Rictor
                        I've taken one piss test in my life and it was a degrading and humiliating experience. Unless your job involves others putting their lives in your hands (doctor, airline pilot, driver, etc.) I don't see a reason employees should have to do it.
                        Well said.

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                        • AWC
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2001
                          • 1223

                          #13
                          Nurse Fluffer

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                          • smokingdawn
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 2808

                            #14
                            Well that sucks

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                            • macker
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                              • Jul 2003
                              • 2161

                              #15
                              A good excuse for refusing a piss test

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                              • DreamCumTrue
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                                • Nov 2003
                                • 2985

                                #16
                                Originally posted by punker barbie
                                the guy is a lying fuck, hes hidding something!
                                hell yeah

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                                • Lykos
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Apr 2003
                                  • 31027

                                  #17
                                  Something's wrong there...

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                                  • bhutocracy
                                    Not making A Comeback
                                    • Dec 2001
                                    • 10218

                                    #18
                                    fucken land of the free...

                                    I STILL can't believe you guys get piss tested.

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                                    • FlyingIguana
                                      aspiring banker
                                      • Mar 2002
                                      • 10870

                                      #19
                                      they should have offered to do a hair test. he should win the case if he has doctors supporting his claim of having peepee problems.

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                                      • Dawgy
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2001
                                        • 5856

                                        #20
                                        it says he passed the hair test, which is more accurate than piss anyway... wtf are they complaining about
                                        the revolution is coming.

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                                        • blonde_8420001
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Apr 2004
                                          • 104

                                          #21
                                          umm why would you want a job that you will piss for your potential boss
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                                          • Matiz
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                                            • Mar 2004
                                            • 1740

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by blonde_8420001
                                            umm why would you want a job that you will piss for your potential boss
                                            I second that.
                                            ...

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                                            • pure energy
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                                              • Apr 2004
                                              • 4274

                                              #23
                                              He's hiding something!
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