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  • kerb
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2003
    • 256

    #1

    Video Content: Buy or Plugins? Reality Paysite Design and Hosting!

    Hello,

    I ask me, if I should buy Video Content Sets or if I should use
    Video and Picture Plugins for Paysites?

    First Step: Hosting

    If I use Video Plugins I can go with Virtual hosting, because
    I do not need high disk space.

    I have seen that hosting companies charge $1 for 10 MB additional disk space.
    That means 100 $ for 1 GB or 1000 $ hosting fees only for
    10 GB disk space. Senseless!
    So it is better to buy a dedicated server plan with enough disk space
    and bandwidth. Right?

    Second Step:

    I am on a 56K Modem Internet Connection so it takes a half year on time
    to upload 10 GB on Video Content. Is a software out there with
    that help it is possible to upload 10 GB`s or so very fast?

    If not this is another rease for the usage of plugins.

    Advantages of Plugins:

    No Buying of Video Content Sets
    No Uploading of that content with low internet connection speed
    No building of html pages
    Plugin fees mostly for $ 99 month

    On the other side I can buy a lot of video sets for 1200 $ a year
    plugin fees and that is only the fee for one plugin.

    What is the way to go? Buy or use Plugins?


    - All Video Content Provider post your offers on video content sets.
    I want to buy bulk content 200+ sets, if I decide to use
    bought content on my sites. Same requirement as below for video plugins.
    e.g. each scene 15 - 30 minutes (prefer 20-30 minutes length),
    1 - 2 minute clips (prefer low MB size because low internet connection speed
    for upload on servers)

    Very important:
    I prefer for each set: license, model release form and photo id. so it`s absolutely legal!
    I am also interested in bulk deals without model release forms and photo ids. License is in this cases mandatory!

    - All Plugin Content Providers post also your offers, because to use
    plugins is also a good alternative. It should be a plugin with about
    100 scenes or more (15 - 30 minutes each scene) that I can use for reality
    style pages. I must be able to link from the membersarea directly to scene
    12, 38 or 75. I need also at least 5 - 10 Pictures to promote the scene
    on the tour pages. I prefer scenes who are divided in 1 or 2 minute clips (pic
    per clip is very good). Rights to use the pics for promotion on the tour is
    necessary!


    - I also need Reality Paysite Style Templates. 1 Frontend that I can use also for tour pages.
    I like it simple! See Nastydollars pages as example. I must be able to add and delete scenes
    by myself to the template. 5 scenes per page.

    - Hosting offers also welcome. Virtual or Dedicated! It should be cheap!


    I go with the cheapest offers! I need permanent good content and so on so that I also go
    with the second and third cheapest offers of video content, plugins, hosting and design!

    Please post your comments (bought vs. plugins) and offers.

    Thank you!
  • Slinx
    Confirmed User
    • May 2003
    • 823

    #2
    Are you new in the adult biz? Maybe you read a lot about it, but you will not survive with your theoretical knowledge. You forgot to ask the most important question: How do I get traffic?

    And cheap is not always good. If your cheap host is down for 1 day or more you can go very fast out of business.
    Last edited by Slinx; 05-17-2004, 06:10 AM.

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    • Blaze
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2001
      • 298

      #3
      Ill give ya some advice.

      Forget about it. Seriously.

      To open a successful paysite today it takes tens of thousands of dollars, immense knowledge of the industry, and some luck.

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      • kerb
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2003
        • 256

        #4
        Traffic is NOT the QUESTION in this thread!!!

        The important questions are all above!!!

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        • Blaze
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2001
          • 298

          #5
          damn double post!
          Last edited by Blaze; 05-17-2004, 06:14 AM.

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          • Slinx
            Confirmed User
            • May 2003
            • 823

            #6
            Originally posted by kerb
            Traffic is NOT the QUESTION in this thread!!!

            The important questions are all above!!!
            sure

            ...end of transmission

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            • Webasic
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2004
              • 1889

              #7
              Contact me on ICQ about a design

              I have several samples I can show you and great prices

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              • kerb
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2003
                • 256

                #8
                Originally posted by Blaze
                Ill give ya some advice.

                Forget about it. Seriously.

                To open a successful paysite today it takes tens of thousands of dollars, immense knowledge of the industry, and some luck.

                That is definitely false!!! I can prove it but...

                Why should I do that???

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                • emmanuelle
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 3662

                  #9
                  Hosting companies these days charge rates close to their costs. They make their money off of storage charges.

                  If you are just starting out, virtual is fine, as long as it is a quality provider who does not overstuff their boxes.

                  When you are ready to go dedicated, make sure that it's managed dedicated, or you have significant knowledge about what to do when your stuff goes down or DoS'd.

                  Most of the time, you should be able to mail discs to your host to upload on your behalf.


                  Plugins should never be used as the base of your content. They are strictly filler. What are you gonna do when your plug in provider goes out of business?

                  Your video requirements seem to be based on your personal needs, rather than what will please your customers. This type of thinking is going to bite you in the ass. Server your customers first, regardless of whether or not it's personally convenient for you.

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                  • Webasic
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 1889

                    #10
                    Originally posted by kerb
                    That is definitely false!!! I can prove it but...

                    Why should I do that???

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                    • chessmaster
                      Registered User
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 78

                      #11
                      Hi

                      You should check out sobegirl see my sig, he got approx 600 vids and great prices. Contact him I am sure he will give you a good deal. He also offer video streams take a look here Sobecams

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                      • kerb
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 256

                        #12
                        You can have with simple, very simple paysites more success than with the best designed flash sites.

                        I close immediately each affiliate program site with flash design that loads 5 minutes!

                        If one plugin provider goes out of business I can have a new
                        plugin within 24 hours, no problem!


                        Think simple and make bucks!

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                        • Webasic
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 1889

                          #13
                          Originally posted by kerb
                          You can have with simple, very simple paysites more success than with the best designed flash sites.

                          I close immediately each affiliate program site with flash design that loads 5 minutes!

                          If one plugin provider goes out of business I can have a new
                          plugin within 24 hours, no problem!


                          Think simple and make bucks!
                          samples of these flash designs you're talking about? I'm interested in seeing one.

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                          • Slinx
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2003
                            • 823

                            #14
                            Originally posted by chessmaster
                            Hi

                            You should check out sobegirl see my sig, he got approx 600 vids and great prices. Contact him I am sure he will give you a good deal. He also offer video streams take a look here Sobecams

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                            • kerb
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 256

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Webasic
                              I do not want to prove the success of a paysite!

                              I want to buy the things of the first post!

                              Not more and not less!

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                              • Webasic
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 1889

                                #16
                                Originally posted by kerb
                                I do not want to prove the success of a paysite!

                                I want to buy the things of the first post!

                                Not more and not less!
                                I'm not sure you do. I can offer you great paysite tours and you haven't contacted me yet

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                                • gornyhuy
                                  Chafed.
                                  • May 2002
                                  • 18041

                                  #17
                                  And I thought Einstein was dead.

                                  icq:159548293

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                                  • Slinx
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2003
                                    • 823

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by kerb
                                    You can have with simple, very simple paysites more success than with the best designed flash sites.

                                    I close immediately each affiliate program site with flash design that loads 5 minutes!

                                    If one plugin provider goes out of business I can have a new
                                    plugin within 24 hours, no problem!


                                    Think simple and make bucks!
                                    You have to keep the members and bring them to rebill.

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                                    • kerb
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2003
                                      • 256

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Webasic
                                      I'm not sure you do. I can offer you great paysite tours and you haven't contacted me yet
                                      Where is the problem?

                                      Post a url with your portfolio.

                                      That is simple and...

                                      I like it simple!

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                                      • Webasic
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2004
                                        • 1889

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by kerb
                                        Where is the problem?

                                        Post a url with your portfolio.

                                        That is simple and...

                                        I like it simple!
                                        I work fulltime for someone and have sites I'm designing for myself (PrimeDollars)...none of the designs I've done from the past two months are live yet...so if you want to see them ICQ me.

                                        It's pretty simple

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                                        • emmanuelle
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Mar 2003
                                          • 3662

                                          #21
                                          So you come here asking for advice & suggestions, then complain that you dont like the answers?

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                                          • emmanuelle
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Mar 2003
                                            • 3662

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Blaze
                                            Ill give ya some advice.

                                            Forget about it. Seriously.

                                            To open a successful paysite today it takes tens of thousands of dollars, immense knowledge of the industry, and some luck.


                                            Blaze- Why are the pics in your gallery sideways?
                                            http://pics.cutecouples.com/cute1/?XXXXXX

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                                            • Webasic
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2004
                                              • 1889

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by emmanuelle
                                              So you come here asking for advice & suggestions, then complain that you dont like the answers?
                                              I'm kinda confused about that one too. Another 15 year old dreamer.

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                                              • kerb
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jan 2003
                                                • 256

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by emmanuelle
                                                So you come here asking for advice & suggestions, then complain that you dont like the answers?


                                                I do not have complained about the answers.

                                                I have only posted my opinion to the answers!

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                                                • kerb
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                  • 256

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Webasic
                                                  I'm kinda confused about that one too. Another 15 year old dreamer.

                                                  I do not use ICQ!

                                                  If you do not have a portfolio with your work, then I am not interested in such kind of offers!!!

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                                                  • Morphius
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • May 2002
                                                    • 1005

                                                    #26
                                                    Check out Gentlemen Content...We are a production studio with massive data base.
                                                    www.gentlemencontent.com

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                                                    • kerb
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                      • 256

                                                      #27
                                                      The only serious posting at the moment comes from
                                                      chessmaster with the sobegirl offer.

                                                      I have visited the site and have seen a lot of very good content!

                                                      I like it this way. Look at a portfolio, if it is good than buying!

                                                      I do not want to ICQ or other shit!

                                                      More offers???

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                                                      • Slinx
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • May 2003
                                                        • 823

                                                        #28
                                                        Do a search about sobegirl

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                                                        • kerb
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                          • 256

                                                          #29
                                                          The search function is not working so no chance to do a search for some useful offers.

                                                          Post it here!

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                                                          • CHMOD
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                            • 1697

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by kerb
                                                            Hello,

                                                            I ask me, if I should buy Video Content Sets or if I should use
                                                            Video and Picture Plugins for Paysites?

                                                            First Step: Hosting

                                                            If I use Video Plugins I can go with Virtual hosting, because
                                                            I do not need high disk space.

                                                            I have seen that hosting companies charge $1 for 10 MB additional disk space.
                                                            That means 100 $ for 1 GB or 1000 $ hosting fees only for
                                                            10 GB disk space. Senseless!
                                                            So it is better to buy a dedicated server plan with enough disk space
                                                            and bandwidth. Right?

                                                            Second Step:

                                                            I am on a 56K Modem Internet Connection so it takes a half year on time
                                                            to upload 10 GB on Video Content. Is a software out there with
                                                            that help it is possible to upload 10 GB`s or so very fast?

                                                            If not this is another rease for the usage of plugins.

                                                            Advantages of Plugins:

                                                            No Buying of Video Content Sets
                                                            No Uploading of that content with low internet connection speed
                                                            No building of html pages
                                                            Plugin fees mostly for $ 99 month

                                                            On the other side I can buy a lot of video sets for 1200 $ a year
                                                            plugin fees and that is only the fee for one plugin.

                                                            What is the way to go? Buy or use Plugins?


                                                            - All Video Content Provider post your offers on video content sets.
                                                            I want to buy bulk content 200+ sets, if I decide to use
                                                            bought content on my sites. Same requirement as below for video plugins.
                                                            e.g. each scene 15 - 30 minutes (prefer 20-30 minutes length),
                                                            1 - 2 minute clips (prefer low MB size because low internet connection speed
                                                            for upload on servers)

                                                            Very important:
                                                            I prefer for each set: license, model release form and photo id. so it`s absolutely legal!
                                                            I am also interested in bulk deals without model release forms and photo ids. License is in this cases mandatory!

                                                            - All Plugin Content Providers post also your offers, because to use
                                                            plugins is also a good alternative. It should be a plugin with about
                                                            100 scenes or more (15 - 30 minutes each scene) that I can use for reality
                                                            style pages. I must be able to link from the membersarea directly to scene
                                                            12, 38 or 75. I need also at least 5 - 10 Pictures to promote the scene
                                                            on the tour pages. I prefer scenes who are divided in 1 or 2 minute clips (pic
                                                            per clip is very good). Rights to use the pics for promotion on the tour is
                                                            necessary!


                                                            - I also need Reality Paysite Style Templates. 1 Frontend that I can use also for tour pages.
                                                            I like it simple! See Nastydollars pages as example. I must be able to add and delete scenes
                                                            by myself to the template. 5 scenes per page.

                                                            - Hosting offers also welcome. Virtual or Dedicated! It should be cheap!


                                                            I go with the cheapest offers! I need permanent good content and so on so that I also go
                                                            with the second and third cheapest offers of video content, plugins, hosting and design!

                                                            Please post your comments (bought vs. plugins) and offers.

                                                            Thank you!

                                                            1- If you want some serious advices, don't ask here. Why ? You saw what kind of genious that may answer your questions...

                                                            2- I am making good money in the industry and I shoot my own content. No plugins.

                                                            3- Host with webair.com

                                                            4- YOU CAN make money by starting with no money: That is what I did.

                                                            5- Don't answer to stupid asses who try to look smart (and who hopes other will think they are successful ) by bashing you, because you are a newbie.


                                                            6- I wish you all the best luck with your business.
                                                            Sell our Silicone Dolls and make big money!

                                                            Our website:
                                                            https://www.sexdolls-shop.com/

                                                            Signup:
                                                            http://www.sexdollscash.com/sliiing/registration.php

                                                            Contact:
                                                            [email protected]

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                                                            • Vittorio
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • May 2003
                                                              • 1974

                                                              #31
                                                              Great Video content here. Click on my link below for samples. Please check my quality vs. SoBe's. World of difference. Go back and look at some post here on GFY about SoBe. Not Good. Chessmaster is NOT a client of SoBe's, it's SoBe posting as someone else to fake newbie's out like you.

                                                              Here are some testimonials from GFY members about MY content:

                                                              "Hey Vittorio, your content is by far of the best amateur content I have seen in a long time. Excellent work, I love those dirty teens!"
                                                              -Mr. Anderson 1200 Posts

                                                              "I was very impressed with the content I bought from Vittorio. Absolutely 100% trouble free, no bullshit, no red tape, no anything.. Good quality pics and video..I've also bought from SoBe (big mistake)."
                                                              -Pipecrew 8000 posts

                                                              "I always thought your videos are far superior in quality than his (SoBe). Not only do you shoot video better, but you fuck better too. Good luck."
                                                              -Brown Bear 5000 posts


                                                              28 GIGS of Hardcore Content for $69 !!

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                                                              • kerb
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jan 2003
                                                                • 256

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Morphius
                                                                Check out Gentlemen Content...We are a production studio with massive data base.
                                                                www.gentlemencontent.com

                                                                Do I understand you right??

                                                                If I click on your page of the Amateur Package then I see the
                                                                following:

                                                                Home Videos 3 Movie Scenes

                                                                Nasty Girls 7 Movie Scenes

                                                                That`s a total of 10 scenes for $ 199/month.

                                                                ??????????????????????????

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                                                                • Webasic
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                  • 1889

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Vittorio
                                                                  Great Video content here. Click on my link below for samples. Please check my quality vs. SoBe's. World of difference. Go back and look at some post here on GFY about SoBe. Not Good. Chessmaster is NOT a client of SoBe's, it's SoBe posting as someone else to fake newbie's out like you.

                                                                  Here are some testimonials from GFY members about MY content:

                                                                  "Hey Vittorio, your content is by far of the best amateur content I have seen in a long time. Excellent work, I love those dirty teens!"
                                                                  -Mr. Anderson 1200 Posts

                                                                  "I was very impressed with the content I bought from Vittorio. Absolutely 100% trouble free, no bullshit, no red tape, no anything.. Good quality pics and video..I've also bought from SoBe (big mistake)."
                                                                  -Pipecrew 8000 posts

                                                                  "I always thought your videos are far superior in quality than his (SoBe). Not only do you shoot video better, but you fuck better too. Good luck."
                                                                  -Brown Bear 5000 posts
                                                                  Any plans to get any new content?

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                                                                  • Slinx
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                    • 823

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Build your own opinion

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                                                                    • kerb
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                      • 256

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Vittorio your site looks also very good!

                                                                      I made only a few posts on this board, but this do NOT mean that I am a NEWBIE!!

                                                                      I know exactly what I am doing!

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                                                                      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                        best designer on GFY
                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                        • 30307

                                                                        #36

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                                                                        • Dawgy
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 5856

                                                                          #37
                                                                          the revolution is coming.

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                                                                          • Webasic
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Feb 2004
                                                                            • 1889

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by kerb
                                                                            Vittorio your site looks also very good!

                                                                            I made only a few posts on this board, but this do NOT mean that I am a NEWBIE!!

                                                                            I know exactly what I am doing!
                                                                            Then you'd know he's had the same content for some time now.

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                                                                            • Slinx
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                              • 823

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by CHMOD
                                                                              1- If you want some serious advices, don't ask here. Why ? You saw what kind of genious that may answer your questions...

                                                                              2- I am making good money in the industry and I shoot my own content. No plugins.

                                                                              3- Host with webair.com

                                                                              4- YOU CAN make money by starting with no money: That is what I did.

                                                                              5- Don't answer to stupid asses who try to look smart (and who hopes other will think they are successful ) by bashing you, because you are a newbie.


                                                                              6- I wish you all the best luck with your business.
                                                                              4- YOU CAN make money by starting with no money: That is what I did.

                                                                              This is true. I did the same. But a paysite with no money? Feeds, content, hosting, design, .....

                                                                              I am bashing nobody. He can burn his money, it's not my fault.

                                                                              Learn something about the business, build an AVS site first. You get free hosting, content and you have a closed members area.

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                                                                              • kerb
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jan 2003
                                                                                • 256

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Webasic
                                                                                Then you'd know he's had the same content for some time now.
                                                                                Do the surfers and potential members of a paysite know about that fact???

                                                                                If not, then it is good content!

                                                                                If I would pay the price he offered on his site that is another
                                                                                point!

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                                                                                • mahoney
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                  • 5318

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  plugins are a waste of $$$$. Let me know if i can help
                                                                                  Vegassexparty.com

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                                                                                  • Morphius
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • May 2002
                                                                                    • 1005

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Do I understand you right??
                                                                                    No you don't, these are full length DVDs...each DVD has between 20-30 scenes...you make the math.
                                                                                    Each package is broken into categories.
                                                                                    Last edited by Morphius; 05-17-2004, 10:17 AM.

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                                                                                    • Vittorio
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                      • 1974

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Kerb,

                                                                                      I meant a newbie on THIS board. I just wanted you to be aware of SoBe. EVERYONE on this board concurs that his content is inferior.

                                                                                      Compared to other content of this quanity and quality, my price for the whole site is RIDICULOUSLY low! BUT, if you still think it's not what you want, you can have it all for $699!!! TODAY ONLY. I'll include shipping too if you are in the states. Pretty sweet, considering other's have paid as much as $3500 originally.

                                                                                      You can email me at: [email protected] for questions and payment info.


                                                                                      28 GIGS of Hardcore Content for $69 !!

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                                                                                      • Global-X
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jan 2004
                                                                                        • 336

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Morphius
                                                                                        Check out Gentlemen Content...We are a production studio with massive data base.
                                                                                        www.gentlemencontent.com
                                                                                        http://www.gentlemencontent.com/pages/Default.asp

                                                                                        "Welcome Massage" Where can I get it?????????

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                                                                                        • Morphius
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                                          • 1005

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          You sign up and get it.

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                                                                                          • Oracle Porn
                                                                                            Affiliate
                                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                                            • 24433

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by kerb
                                                                                            That is definitely false!!! I can prove it but...

                                                                                            Why should I do that???
                                                                                            I can answer your question...but...

                                                                                            Why should I do that???


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                                                                                            • Morgan
                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                                              • 10520

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Get a real server, buy as much content as you can and build a simple paysite and send gallery traffic to it. that is the best bet for cheapskates...

                                                                                              And for you all who think its hard for a newbie to make money off a paysite... depending on that newbie, your wrong. I taught a friend how to do some gallery stuff and how a paysite was made and now he has 3 of them making a couple grand per month each. I still consider him a total newbie, but he's done this on his own. Only been around a short period of time too.
                                                                                              PornstarPlatinum.com | TransErotica.com

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                                                                                              • juicylinks
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                                • 122992

                                                                                                #48



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                                                                                                Last edited by Juicy D. Links; 05-17-2004, 10:32 AM.

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                                                                                                • Penrod
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                                  • 3580

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  www.candidcam.com

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                                                                                                  • Oracle Porn
                                                                                                    Affiliate
                                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                                    • 24433

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by kerb
                                                                                                    Vittorio your site looks also very good!

                                                                                                    I made only a few posts on this board, but this do NOT mean that I am a NEWBIE!!

                                                                                                    I know exactly what I am doing!
                                                                                                    If you knew wtf you were doing you would'nt of started this thread...you know 0....


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