The Day After Tomorrow movie (vid)

Potentially good oh wow movie. Pretty sure the plot will suck so just enjoy the ride.

bah, it looks ok

Awesome special effects! that movie would be a sure hit!

I can't access yhe link

seems like a movie I'd forget an hour after I saw it..

Roland Emmerich..

ID4

GODZILLA

DAY AFTER TOMORROW - 3 predicted

i guess it will be a nice a movie...................

Well said

/sign

The special effects rocks!

it seems like its gonna be a big hit. from the producers of ID4. ID4 was a great movie, wasnt it

The special effects alone will make this movie a box office hit. But so far, I know nothing else about the movie besides the effects. Its all they advertise

Poop on you, I loved ID4. You also left out StarGate which was one of his earlier ones.

StarGate was ok..

About ID4

I think this film is such a shame and almost as if hollywood execs stepped in half way through and said "no its not hollywood enough". For me the first half hour was outstanding and one of the best I've ever seen in an alien movie. We see the moon dust shaking, the clouds "ala" close encounters and the shadows, the panic on the public the positioning and hidden messages of the alien ships. The tension that was created here and the slowness at which it was created was top notch and had me glued as I was thinking, hello we got a classic piece of film here.

Then as I say its like somebody said: "hold on this is getting way too serious a movie, we need to add cheese and hollywood by the bucket load". All the class that was built up was destroyed and then for the last 1hr or 45mins or whatever we see some drunk turn into worlds saviour, the president getting into a plane, honestly he would be 100ft below ground and really the film went to pot with the feel good happy ending and all that crap.

Honestly could they have destroyed such a brilliant start so badly?

The funny thing nobody seems to realize is that type of massivie storm system is coming in the decades and centuries ahead as the earth's magnetic poles go into reversal and then flip.

This happens every 300,000 years when the waves of the electromagnetic energy go into a fluxing state, weaken and then wave into each other and eventually South becomes North and North becomes South.

Everything will be opposite of what it is currently.

We haven't had one of these happen for 780,000 years and this one that is starting to show signs was long overdue.

We'll all be dead by the time the worst part comes, but NASA scientists are saying it will reverse sometime within the next 100 to 1,000 years.

The meteorological changes that occur during this process are immense because once the primary North and South poles weaken solar radiation hits the polar ice caps and heats things up and the air current patterns all start to change directions and paths.

It will be a major problem for our descendents and there is no way possible to stop it.

Do we have any concrete evidence of this or is it all in theory ? There are so many doomsday scenarios, its better for me not to worry about what I can not control.

I am really looking forward to seeing this too.

Looks like its going to ROCK.

Can't wait for it to come out. It looks like an awesome movie.

Some articles on the subject from a Google search.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast15feb_1.htm

http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/com...icle.asp?id=96

http://www.planetsave.com/ViewStory.asp?ID=4579

http://exodus2006.com/pole.htm

http://www.gvnr.com/74/3.htm

This post worries me.
WG

how long is the movie, you can tell right away it's it's shit or not by the lenght of it.

anything thats around 90 minutes usually sucks ass major

Anyone who is old enough, remember in the 70's when they said we were about to slip into an ice age? A year later they flipped and said we were about to melt the ice caps with our cars... blah blah blah... It's all speculation...

I think I saw everything you mentioned in some movie about birds flying into busses or something in France... Morgan Freeman... the title has slipped from me... They goto the center of the Earth yeah yeah... anyone who saw it help me out here

The same NASA predicting this is the same NASA that designed a multi-billion dollar project in feet but planned it in meters and had a catastrophe right?

I won't be able to sleep tonight...

i'm gonna see it... but i just know it's gonna be a america is evil preachy left wing save the planet don't drive an SUV type thing.

Movies where the special effects out weigh the acting and story are usully crap, Matrix being a fine example.

scoobydookc
The movie was "The Core" and another load of crap.

Looks like this will be another blockbuster!

looks great

Yea I saw the trailer like a month ago. Can't wait for the fucking movie to come out, 9 more days I believe or something like that!

jDoG

Opps, was thinking to day was the 19..still 12 more days.

jDoG

saw the preview in the theatre today, looks killer

Can't wait for the movie!

Excellent use of special effects!

It would have been MUCH better if they just let the aliens take over the world and showed a massive ground invasion.

I never get the cool ending I want.

I hope to watch it on the first day of showing!

Scary article..

Apocalypse soon, warns U.S. report

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...d=968332188492

Global warming called a threat to national security
Shelved Pentagon study paints bleak picture of future

PETER GORRIE
FEATURE WRITER

It's 2010: After years of steadily rising temperatures and increasingly fierce storms, the next stage of global climate change is about to take hold.

Melting Arctic ice and high rainfall have dumped massive amounts of fresh water into the North Atlantic Ocean. That sets off a chain of events that causes the Gulf Stream and North Atlantic Drift ? the northward flows of water that warm Europe by about 10 degrees Celsius ? to weaken and eventually collapse.

Temperatures in Europe, northern Asia and North America plummet. Strong winds and intense drought knock food production into a tailspin.

Other effects wrack the rest of the world: Much of Africa, Australia and South America is hot and parched while southern Asia becomes waterlogged and stormy. In the Far East, destructive monsoons alternate with prolonged dry spells.

By 2020, Earth no longer provides enough food, water and energy for its teeming population. By the millions, desperate refugees flee from places of cold and hunger to areas that look more promising. Economies collapse. Borders are breached. Wars erupt.

This apocalyptic picture is painted in a bleak report commissioned by the United States Pentagon.

Threat to ocean currents (.pdf)
http://www.thestar.ca/static/PDF/nr_conveyor_belt.pdf

"Humans fight when they outstrip the carrying capacity of their natural environment," the report states. "Every time there is a choice between starving and raiding, humans raid."

Among the likely responses:

The U.S. and Australia, with enough resources to stay self-sufficient despite the climate upheaval, erect "defensive fortresses" around themselves.

Countries hit by famine, water shortages or disease become aggressive. Eastern Europe eyes Russia. Japan goes after oil reserves on Russia's Sakhalin Island. India, Pakistan and China ? all armed with nuclear weapons ? fight over rivers and arable land.

Nuclear weapons proliferate; in part because more countries must switch to nuclear power as oil and gas grow scarce.

Canada locks itself in with the U. S. Or, alternatively, it hoards its hydroelectric power, causing problems for Americans.

All this means climate change "should be elevated beyond a scientific debate to a U.S. national security concern," the $100,000 (U.S.) report concludes.

For years, scientists have predicted a wide array of dramatic climate changes will result from global warming ? the raising of Earth's temperature because of increased carbon dioxide, methane and other heat-trapping pollutants in the atmosphere.

Their warnings get short shrift from U.S. President George W. Bush and his administration. Reports on the issue are routinely ignored. But the new study attracted attention because of the defence establishment's involvement.

When the report was made public in late February, a story in Fortune magazine, typical of the media coverage, stated that the potential for abrupt and catastrophic consequences from global warming: "has become so real that the Pentagon's strategic planners are grappling with it." The threat "has riveted their attention."

Surely, many observers concluded, if the camouflage set believes such a dark future could come to pass, Bush and his advisers must finally take notice.

"Can Bush ignore the Pentagon?" World Bank scientist Bob Watson mused in the Observer, a British newspaper. "After all, Bush's single highest priority is national defence. The Pentagon is no wacko, liberal group; generally speaking it is conservative. If climate change is a threat to national security and the economy, then he has to act."

In actual fact, global warming has not suddenly grabbed Washington by the throat.

Pentagon planners are neither riveted by, nor grappling with, the issue. The report, written by two California futurologists, is quickly gathering dust.

"None of the above," Pentagon spokesperson Dan Hetlage replied when asked if the study has either significance or resonance.

The Pentagon's Office of Net Assessment ? which tries to look years into the future and whose 82-year-old director, Andrew Marshall, is affectionately known as Yoda, the ancient and revered Jedi Master of Star Wars ? commissions such studies all the time, Hetlage says. "There are hundreds in the works today."

As for this report: "No specific work follows from it."

"The study indicates the limits of the science. There's just no way to predict" what will happen, Hetlage notes. It's a line that could come from any administration official.

So, the military isn't compelling Bush to act on this issue. He's expected to keep opposing the Kyoto Protocol, the global treaty that calls for greenhouse gas emissions to be reduced to at least 5 per cent below 1990 levels by 2012.

Even so, the report is having some impact.

"It's talked about a lot," says Dr. Michael Oppenheimer, professor of geosciences and international affairs at Princeton University.

"The (Bush) administration would just as soon it disappeared. ...

"It's an interesting contribution."

And concern generated by the study might garner support for Republican Senator John McCain and Democrat Joseph Lieberman when they reintroduce legislation that would impose a cap ? less stringent than the Kyoto target ? on American emissions, Oppenheimer says. Fellow senators defeated their proposal last fall.

The report is of some use to those campaigning to stop global warming.

Canadian Environment Minister David Anderson ? whose government signed the protocol but is losing ground on compliance ? refers "quite frequently" to the study and has circulated it among his colleagues, says Phil Kinsman, chief spokesperson for Environment Canada.

"Any time you put the word Pentagon on something, even if it's not done internally, in the context where security is such an issue, it does raise the profile," Kinsman says.

A recent report for CSIS, Canada's national spy agency, concluded that "over coming decades" this country could face an influx of environmental refugees from areas hit by climate change. Warming of the Arctic could also draw more people to the North, raising concerns over security and smuggling, states the report, which CSIS funded but doesn't necessarily agree with.

The Pentagon's report is not a forecast. Instead, it presents a "plausible" worst-case scenario that's intended to prod the Pentagon into exploring possible impacts of climate change on the military.

The report's two authors are not climate scientists and their work contains no new scientific information.

They simply take to its extreme the longstanding consensus that global warming could lead to immense changes.

Scientists believe the end of the ocean circulation system is just one of three potentially overwhelming consequences. Global warming could also cause the collapse of the Antarctic ice shelf, an event that would raise sea level around the world by five or six metres. Or, less likely, it could thaw the Arctic tundra and release vast amounts of methane, triggering far greater warming.

The main question is not if, but when, any of this could happen.

The theory it could come very fast is just a couple of years old. Most experts are cautious about the idea.

If we continue to pump greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, "the risks of a Pentagon-type scenario have to be very seriously looked at," says Gordon McBean, a professor at the University of Western Ontario and policy chair at the Institute for Catastrophic Loss Reduction, founded by Canadian insurance companies to research how to reduce disaster losses.

However, he says, while the dates mentioned in the report aren't impossible, "it's highly unlikely that in this century you'd see the turning off of the (ocean) circulation."

"The expectation is that the response of the (ocean) circulation is gradual, but you can't rule out the possibility it could be abrupt," says Henry Hengeveld, Environment Canada's climate change specialist.

Scientists have found limited evidence that the North Atlantic is becoming less salty ? the first step in shutting down the global circulation pattern, a slow-moving current that's equivalent to 100 Amazon Rivers and is known as the "Great Conveyor."

Here's how the circulation works in the Atlantic Ocean.

As warm water flows north it gradually cools and, because of evaporation, gets saltier. Both changes make it heavier. When its temperature drops close to zero, in an area between Greenland and Norway, it sinks. Eventually, it flows south, deep under the surface.

More warm water moves up from the south to replace it. It eventually cools and sinks, continuing the cycle.

According to the theory, the influx of fresh water produced by global warming will make the ocean water lighter, it will no longer sink, and the circulation will stop.

As always in matters of global climate change, things aren't simple.

For example, warm air and water are also shoved around by winds and tides. Moving air masses also affect climate. These forces could reduce the impact if the Great Conveyor grinds to a halt.

(...continued)

Among those working to get a clearer picture is the Ouranos Consortium in Montreal. The consortium, founded in 2002 and backed by Quebec, Hydro-Québec, Environment Canada and several universities, is developing scenarios for global warming and how to cope with its impacts.

The latest evidence is that the ocean circulation has slowed by about 20 per cent, but the data are called "pretty shallow" by Georges Beauchemin, chair of the Ouranos board. Ouranos won't have results from its work for three years.

"There are some tantalizing hints that something is happening, but we still have to use them with caution," says Hengeveld.

Even so, he offers a warning against complacency.

"This business of abrupt, catastrophic flips in the climate is something we don't understand well. That shouldn't be a comfort. The picture may be worse than we think."

Yea they shot the Mexican border scenes here in my city (El Paso, Tx) Look at that mighty Rio Grande River!

That the only you ever post?

looks ok but we will see what happens
I want to see Troy