Madcap why dont you pay people you owe money too?

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  • TheFrog
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2004
    • 4095

    #51
    yup, scammer pretty bad

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    • NaughtyJenn
      Confirmed User
      • Apr 2003
      • 7355

      #52
      Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
      I met the guy in vegas seemed like a decent dude. I just hate to hang someone before hearing their side.

      If he is showing your pictures without your permission you should contact ccbill they can force him to remove the unlicensed content, also, if that is your domain in the program why dont you move it?

      Did you have any contracts with him? If not, then that is your mistake, you should always keep your business at a forefront.

      My point is you are looking for restitution or payment. Police wont do shit, this is a civil matter, plus you are canadian which will add another wrinkle to it.

      For the amounts your listing its not even worth going after him in court.

      It is odd he is so silent about it, but I am sure his side will come out.

      So I would start with ccbill and jupiter. If he has content that is not his, his host would also have to remove the domain if it is showing unlicensed content.

      Thats my and only my opinion and what I would do if I was in your position.
      I have already talked with jupiter in regards to this and since he has been paying they can not really do anything and they are really stuck in the middle.. he has dissapeared for a bit now and everytime its an elaborate excuse why.. there are 2 sides to the story but at the end of the day if someone isnt being paid for their services its pretty blunt..

      The domain i own and have full control and he has no licence for my content. I am going to be contacting ccbill in this matter as well that is a forsure thing.. i have exausted every way of communication and this is not a 3-4 day thing where i have tried to contact him, this is over a period of almost a month and a bit of him dissapearing, each time resurfacing with storys of what happend..

      As for court, you are right its not financially sound for what it would cost to go after him, but in turn i will make sure he gets no biz from anyone i know..

      I have already changed the nameservers on my domain and waiting for it to propigate..

      We met him in vegas and your right he did seem like a good guy. but after this period of people contacting us and us putting the pieces together we have found out most of his talk is smoke and mirror's..

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      • NaughtyJenn
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2003
        • 7355

        #53
        thnx for the support btw from everyone i do appreciate it for those who know how long this has been going on for

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        • BradM
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2003
          • 3397

          #54

          Good luck Jenn. Let me know if there is anything I can do.

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          • Illicit
            wtf ?
            • Dec 2003
            • 11895

            #55
            Damn Scammers need to be shot
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            • CAHEK
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              • Aug 2003
              • 7459

              #56
              Originally posted by juicylinks
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              • NaughtyJenn
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2003
                • 7355

                #57
                Originally posted by BradM

                Good luck Jenn. Let me know if there is anything I can do.
                thnx u should have an email from the ccbill affilate thing btw

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                • xxxdesign-net
                  My hips don't lie
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 10129

                  #58
                  I thought you were talking about Madrage for a second... I was thinking WTF!?! LOL

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                  • makefuckingmoney
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 3277

                    #59
                    Jenn,

                    You may want to ask someone more familiar with legal issues, but if Jupiter is hosting a site, and someone has unlicensed or illegal content, and you notfiy them, I believe they have to investigate it and remove the offending site.

                    I dont believe that is a grey issue.

                    Now..if you are trying to go about with your whole spiel of how he ripped you off, and your brother, and cousin and uncle, etc.. then you are trying to get them to take sides. Which they shouldnt do.

                    But a content violation is a clear demand and within your legal rights.

                    Im sure there are a few copyright people here that know more than I do.


                    Just be sure when you contact them and are clear on the issues that they can help you with, not your whole problem. You can not ask them to sides, but your content, is your content. Be sure to make that your issue with these companies.

                    Good luck.

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                    • MattO
                      The O is for Oohhh
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 10861

                      #60
                      bump


                      maybe I'll get luck and get my 100 bucks

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                      • $mokey The Bear
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • May 2004
                        • 5746

                        #61
                        Originally posted by juicylinks


                        Personally i get violent if i am owed alot of money, but thats me.
                        Do you bite their ankles ??


                        Originally posted by juicylinks


                        Plus there is enough dirt on your background to land you in jail or serious shit.
                        I wouldn't go there juicy... let "your friends" make threats.. You make a better characature.

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                        • juicylinks
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Apr 2001
                          • 122992

                          #62
                          Originally posted by $mokey The Bear
                          Do you bite their ankles ??




                          I wouldn't go there juicy... let "your friends" make threats.. You make a better characature.
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                          • pornstar2pac
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                            • Nov 2003
                            • 17380

                            #63
                            feel the love in the room tonight. reunions and drama.


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                            • juicylinks
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Apr 2001
                              • 122992

                              #64
                              Originally posted by pornstar2pac
                              feel the love in the room tonight. reunions and drama.


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                              • Ice
                                Confirmed User
                                • Nov 2002
                                • 26053

                                #65
                                I hope this is a huge misunderstanding....however I see no reason why someone owed money wouldn't be paid. I have met madcap (Adam) in Vegas and thought he was a good guy. I know the issues he has been dealing with from phone and icq convos with him but is no excuse for not paying money owed to someone.

                                Madcap if you read this... please respond...... I know the troubles you have gone through with your dad, etc......

                                I am a good judge of character Adam and I hope I am not wrong about you
                                icq 1904905

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                                • kronic
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 964

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by iceicebaby
                                  I hope this is a huge misunderstanding....however I see no reason why someone owed money wouldn't be paid. I have met madcap (Adam) in Vegas and thought he was a good guy. I know the issues he has been dealing with from phone and icq convos with him but is no excuse for not paying money owed to someone.

                                  Madcap if you read this... please respond...... I know the troubles you have gone through with your dad, etc......

                                  I am a good judge of character Adam and I hope I am not wrong about you
                                  Well said.

                                  You wouldn't be the first person who fucked up, made amends and came back stronger than before.

                                  You have to start out by making amends though.

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                                  • newsdude
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Apr 2004
                                    • 1969

                                    #67
                                    I hope everybody gets whats due to them.
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                                    • the Shemp
                                      congrats to the winners
                                      • Nov 2001
                                      • 10891

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by iceicebaby
                                      I hope this is a huge misunderstanding....however I see no reason why someone owed money wouldn't be paid. I have met madcap (Adam) in Vegas and thought he was a good guy. I know the issues he has been dealing with from phone and icq convos with him but is no excuse for not paying money owed to someone.

                                      Madcap if you read this... please respond...... I know the troubles you have gone through with your dad, etc......

                                      I am a good judge of character Adam and I hope I am not wrong about you
                                      a general comment and maybe or maybe not appropriate to this issue, but the very best scammers are the guys you NEVER expect.....
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                                      • juicylinks
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Apr 2001
                                        • 122992

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by the Shemp
                                        a general comment and maybe or maybe not appropriate to this issue, but the very best scammers are the guys you NEVER expect.....
                                        True

                                        They put on a nice facade to lure you in , get you to trust them and so on and then BAMMMM

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                                        • kronic
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2002
                                          • 964

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by juicylinks
                                          True

                                          They put on a nice facade to lure you in , get you to trust them and so on and then BAMMMM
                                          Sorry man. I truly don't buy that in this case.

                                          I've heard Jenn's side of the story, no question she's getting fucked over. And Adam truly owes her money and an apology AND compensation.

                                          That being said, if we EVER hear Madcap's side of the story, I'll be VERY surprised if this whole thing wasn't attributed to him getting in over his head and overextended.

                                          Not an excuse for the guy, just what I suspect has happened. He's definitely in the wrong here, but I have a VERY hard time believing he hooked up with Jenn and AJ because he felt they were easy marks.

                                          I could be wrong, but that would be a first

                                          P.S. I don't know about the other people Madcap's supposedly taken for a ride, so I can't and won't comment on those cases.
                                          Last edited by kronic; 05-16-2004, 09:30 PM.

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                                          • Ice
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Nov 2002
                                            • 26053

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by the Shemp
                                            a general comment and maybe or maybe not appropriate to this issue, but the very best scammers are the guys you NEVER expect.....
                                            True statement Shemp... thats why I have trouble trusting anyone in this business. I have a very small list of people I consider "true" friends or business associates in this industry...... trust and respect is not given with me... it is earned
                                            icq 1904905

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                                            • Sly_RJ
                                              Live Hard - Die Hard
                                              • Feb 2002
                                              • 17042

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by the Shemp
                                              a general comment and maybe or maybe not appropriate to this issue, but the very best scammers are the guys you NEVER expect.....
                                              It's true.

                                              I merely PLAY innocent and adorable. I'm really out to scam whoever steps in my way.

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                                              • SoundMan
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Nov 2003
                                                • 3471

                                                #73
                                                http://www.naughtyjenn.com/2/tour/index.html

                                                site down::::

                                                well seems like you are SOL..
                                                that is the fucking worst!

                                                with all the people on this board you should get your own
                                                fucking billing! - this should be #1 on your list as you are loosing $$$ waiting for a cracker that may never pay...

                                                Jenn make a post on how to get your site working !

                                                A.S.A.P! Dont fuck with drama.....

                                                If madcaper fucked you he will get it in the back end..
                                                carma works that way....

                                                Dont delay post today!

                                                Just a Tip....

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                                                • NaughtyJenn
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                  • 7355

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by SoundMan
                                                  http://www.naughtyjenn.com/2/tour/index.html

                                                  site down::::

                                                  well seems like you are SOL..
                                                  that is the fucking worst!

                                                  with all the people on this board you should get your own
                                                  fucking billing! - this should be #1 on your list as you are loosing $$$ waiting for a cracker that may never pay...

                                                  Jenn make a post on how to get your site working !

                                                  A.S.A.P! Dont fuck with drama.....

                                                  If madcaper fucked you he will get it in the back end..
                                                  carma works that way....

                                                  Dont delay post today!

                                                  Just a Tip....
                                                  Yes the site is down and all the affialtes and members were emailed with information that they needed. I honestly do not expect a penny from him because i would have seen it by now...
                                                  as for getting my site backup billing is a bit harder when you are a canadian.. if i had ccbill of my own it would have been done before i even joined with madcap...

                                                  i have been seeking other means of processing from joining other networks to possibly arranging an agreement for billing... right now myself and aj are working very hard to get this resolved in the quickest manner..

                                                  i do belive in karma and if i can take 1 penny out of his pocket by having someone not send him $ on false claims then im happy..

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                                                  • rounders
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Sep 2003
                                                    • 2931

                                                    #75
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                                                    • SoundMan
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                      • 3471

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by NaughtyJenn
                                                      Yes the site is down and all the affialtes and members were emailed with information that they needed. I honestly do not expect a penny from him because i would have seen it by now...
                                                      as for getting my site backup billing is a bit harder when you are a canadian.. if i had ccbill of my own it would have been done before i even joined with madcap...

                                                      i have been seeking other means of processing from joining other networks to possibly arranging an agreement for billing... right now myself and aj are working very hard to get this resolved in the quickest manner..

                                                      i do belive in karma and if i can take 1 penny out of his pocket by having someone not send him $ on false claims then im happy..
                                                      These thing's happen, what you do now is try harder and never let someone fuck you over like that again..!!

                                                      I have been raped a few times.. you learn from these mistakes!!

                                                      Seem like Juicy want's to do a tailgate party with MadCap and use him as the main coarse.

                                                      I visited your site before professsorrrrcash and you had ccbill back then, what happend for you to use professsorrrrcash ?

                                                      Partners suck unless you are broke!

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                                                      • Loki
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Feb 2004
                                                        • 4420

                                                        #77
                                                        bump for justice

                                                        Jen as i said b4 if ya need anything just lemme know

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                                                        • SoundMan
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                          • 3471

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by NaughtyJenn
                                                          and this time no western union with fake info either madcap....
                                                          That is dam low....

                                                          this kind of shit pisses me off as well!

                                                          reminds me of globill and others...

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                                                          • Ice
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                            • 26053

                                                            #79
                                                            bump.... there must be someone that has shown this to Adam
                                                            icq 1904905

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                                                            • NaughtyJenn
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                              • 7355

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by iceicebaby
                                                              bump.... there must be someone that has shown this to Adam
                                                              oh im sure he knows, impossible not to.. we gave him fair notice that things had to be resolved and called him almost everyday for the last 2 weeks since the western union lie...

                                                              he is around because he has been at his isp and im sure he has taken note..

                                                              also the person who paid him for the server he was supposed to setup has called him almost as much as we have..

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                                                              • NaughtyJenn
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                • 7355

                                                                #81
                                                                also contacting jupiter because he has protected some of my content that the server will not allow me to remove..

                                                                then its all clean

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                                                                • webmaster x
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                  • 4400

                                                                  #82
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                                                                  • pure energy
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Apr 2004
                                                                    • 4274

                                                                    #83
                                                                    He doesn't have the guts to face these people.
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