Nick Berg was a joke heres the real thing

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  • Doc911
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    • Feb 2004
    • 3695
    #1

    Nick Berg was a joke heres the real thing

    Chechnya: Muslim resistance fighters end 'interogation' of OCCUPATION soldier by cutting his throat and cutting off his head on camera with audio too.
    Playback http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub.../chechclear.asf


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    • eroswebmaster
      March 1st, 2003
      • Jul 2001
      • 20295
      #2
      that's a rough one.
      ..seen it before.
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        • Pipecrew
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          • Feb 2002
          • 14888
          #3
          that video is so old.... Someone post the timeline pic

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            • Doc911
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              • Feb 2004
              • 3695
              #4
              I never said it wasn't old

              I just "wonder" about the authenticity of the nick burg beheading.

              this one leaves no doubt.


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                • newsdude
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                  • Apr 2004
                  • 1969
                  #5
                  I'm still not watching that one either!
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                    • Rob
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                      • Nov 2003
                      • 13310
                      #6
                      Originally posted by newsdude
                      I'm still not watching that one either!
                      DON'T! I watched it 4 years ago and it still haunts me!!! That is THE most horrific thing I have ever witnessed. Much, much worse than the Berg decapitation. For the love of all that's holy, don't watch it!!!

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                        • sumphatpimp
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                          • Aug 2002
                          • 5235
                          #7
                          my own circumscsion was tramatic enough for me.

                          beheading just ain't my thing.

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                            • aSStig
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                              • Apr 2004
                              • 1102
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Doc911
                              Chechnya: Muslim resistance fighters end 'interogation' of OCCUPATION soldier by cutting his throat and cutting off his head on camera with audio too.
                              Playback http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub.../chechclear.asf
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                                • aSStig
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                                  • Apr 2004
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                                  #9
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                                    • Gman.357
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                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 2796
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Doc911
                                      I never said it wasn't old

                                      I just "wonder" about the authenticity of the nick burg beheading.

                                      this one leaves no doubt.
                                      Here's an idea. Go to his grave site, dig him up, and see for yourself if his head was cut off or not. That's should be proof enough.

                                      I can understand questioning who was in fact responsible for his death, but I have a hard time grasping why some think the tape is a fraud simply because it wasn't "graphic" enough. I saw the Daniel Pearl beheading. It really didn't show much more than this one.

                                      Don't forget, the video you're seeing on the net is probably 4th generation, and heavily compressed.

                                      Ouch.

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                                        • Pleasurepays
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                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 11913
                                          #11
                                          i would say the actual beheading (Berg) was not a real execution... that was my first impression. he looked dead already, he did not move, he did you convulse before or after or anything. it just looked fake.

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                                            • xenigo
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                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 8067
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                              i would say the actual beheading (Berg) was not a real execution... that was my first impression. he looked dead already, he did not move, he did you convulse before or after or anything. it just looked fake.
                                              Dude, I heard he was screaming. That sounds pretty real to me.

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                                                • Pleasurepays
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                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 11913
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by xenigo
                                                  Dude, I heard he was screaming. That sounds pretty real to me.
                                                  and were the sounds of having his head hacked off accompanied by any sort of body movement? no.

                                                  could you be still while you were having your head sawed off with a knife? or is that just strong discipline?

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                                                    • Pleasurepays
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                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 11913
                                                      #14
                                                      i mean it all just felt and looked wrong. the Russian one for example, leaves no doubt.

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                                                        • The Truth Hurts
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                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                          • 15772
                                                          #15
                                                          Al-Jazeera says it's fake... and by the standards and practices of GFY - if anyone other than the American media says something, it MUST be true.

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                                                            • pure energy
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                                                              • Apr 2004
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                                                              #16
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                                                                • Gman.357
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                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 2796
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                  and were the sounds of having his head hacked off accompanied by any sort of body movement? no.

                                                                  could you be still while you were having your head sawed off with a knife? or is that just strong discipline?
                                                                  As far as being "still", he was tied up, and held down by 2 or more men. Movement would be minimal. There did seem to be a struggle while the blade severed the neck, up to a point.

                                                                  Also, the body convulsions you were looking for probably would not exist since the decapitation was so "slow". If it were a quick, instant decapitation, you would expect such movement after the fact, but when the process took well over 5 seconds, I'm not convinced noticable convulsions of the body would occur.

                                                                  As for blood loss, you really can't tell exactly how much blood was pouring from the neck during the cut because of the low quality of the video. It's possible (since the duration of the cut was so long) that a good deal of blood was expelled, and wouldn't be gushing from the stump when it was held up to the camera (as a comparison, Daniel Pearl's head wasn't gushing blood either).

                                                                  Unless you're an expert on cutting a man's head off, I see no reason to doubt this video's authenticity in that respect.

                                                                  Ouch.

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                                                                    • xenigo
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                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                      • 8067
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Gman.357
                                                                      Unless you're an expert on cutting a man's head off, I see no reason to doubt this video's authenticity in that respect.
                                                                      He must be speaking from experience.

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                                                                        • BlueDesignStudios
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                                                                          • Feb 2003
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          the russian video is the worst.. (I Think)

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                                                                            • Pleasurepays
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                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                              • 11913
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Gman.357
                                                                              Also, the body convulsions you were looking for probably would not exist since the decapitation was so "slow". If it were a quick, instant decapitation, you would expect such movement after the fact, but when the process took well over 5 seconds, I'm not convinced noticable convulsions of the body would occur.
                                                                              i understand what you are saying. i just personally don't believe it. when i was a freshman, 3 senior kids tried to grab me and stick my head in the toilet. i went bat shit... there was no way that was going to happen and they gave up because even though there was 3 people and they were all twice my size, they could not hold me.

                                                                              that was voluntary behavior. resisting death is not. even with hands tied and someone kinda sorta holding his legs.. i personally don't believe that a person would just lay there like that while someone saws their head off unless they are already heavily sedated or dead. who knows what effect the trauma might have on him and what role shock and other factors played... but i don't think that when a knife slices into your throat, you would just lay there.

                                                                              as for blood... well... arteries are arteries. when they get cut... blood gushes out. it does not matter how slow or fast the artery is cut when it is severed in 1/2. this guys heart would be beating at max .. probably 170-200 beats a minute with two of the bodys major arteries in the neck, not to mention all the other blood vessels. how much blood would be pumped out in a few seconds at someones maximum heart rate? quite a bit.

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                                                                                • montel
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                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                  • 2606
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  i know not to watch this...
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                                                                                    • Gman.357
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                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                      • 2796
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                                      i understand what you are saying. i just personally don't believe it. when i was a freshman, 3 senior kids tried to grab me and stick my head in the toilet. i went bat shit... there was no way that was going to happen and they gave up because even though there was 3 people and they were all twice my size, they could not hold me.

                                                                                      that was voluntary behavior. resisting death is not. even with hands tied and someone kinda sorta holding his legs.. i personally don't believe that a person would just lay there like that while someone saws their head off unless they are already heavily sedated or dead. who knows what effect the trauma might have on him and what role shock and other factors played... but i don't think that when a knife slices into your throat, you would just lay there.

                                                                                      as for blood... well... arteries are arteries. when they get cut... blood gushes out. it does not matter how slow or fast the artery is cut when it is severed in 1/2. this guys heart would be beating at max .. probably 170-200 beats a minute with two of the bodys major arteries in the neck, not to mention all the other blood vessels. how much blood would be pumped out in a few seconds at someones maximum heart rate? quite a bit.
                                                                                      You're entitled to your opinion. I just feel the initial shock, combined with the massive loss of blood, being tied and held down would dramatically impede one's ability to struggle or even move. Blood loss would be great indeed, but what I'm talking about was blood coming from the stump of the neck that was attached to the head while it was shown to the camera. Some people have stated they expected blood to be gushing from this area, which isn't necessarily so. Again, the Daniel Pearl video is a good example of that.

                                                                                      But... it's all a matter of speculation on our part regardless, since I'm assuming niether of us has ever actually severed a head from a living human being.

                                                                                      Cheers.

                                                                                      Ouch.

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                                                                                        • xxxoutsourcing
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                                                                                            • James White
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                                                                                              • Apr 2004
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              He might have not resisted because he knew he'd die one way or another. But i would have to go with the theory that sedatives were involved more than like.y
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                                                                                                • Global-X
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                                                                                                    • Odin88
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                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      www.porn-sex-list.com/chechen.asf

                                                                                                      Was posted here a few days ago, I think the link still works. Pretty sickening. Actually it is very sickening to know that someone can do that to another, but I personally don't find it haunting as such. The guy being killed is quite young too (must be 18 or so).

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                                                                                                        • reynold
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                                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                                          • 51271
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Not another one!

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                                                                                                            • More Booze
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                                                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                                                              • 5116
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              I remember when I watched this video back in school, he looks so scared before he gets his throat cut, I dont know why but thats the part that makes me most sad

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                                                                                                                • joshuawk
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                                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Two guys hold his legs/body down. One guy holds his head
                                                                                                                  by the hair and one guy holds his head to cut it.
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                                                                                                                    • pxxx
                                                                                                                      First African GFY Member
                                                                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                      • 12114
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      No more beheading videos for me, i saw the nick berg, and i cannot EAT!!!!!!!

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                                                                                                                        • TheFrog
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                                                                                                                          • Jan 2004
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          that russian one is bad

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                                                                                                                            • WebTitan
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                                                                                                                              • Mar 2003
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              seen it befor and have no desire to see it again, that one kept me up for a few nights...ugh...

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                                                                                                                                • zzgundamnzz
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                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2002
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by HighOnAcid
                                                                                                                                  DON'T! I watched it 4 years ago and it still haunts me!!! That is THE most horrific thing I have ever witnessed. Much, much worse than the Berg decapitation. For the love of all that's holy, don't watch it!!!
                                                                                                                                  I agree, I saw this one and Im done with watching any of those videos


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