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  • KRL
    Entrepreneur
    • Oct 2002
    • 31429
    #1

    Water Torture Being Used On The Top Terrorists Detained.

    They've admitted the President authorized the use of water torture on the top terrorists we have in custody.

    They strap the guy to a wood board and then submerge his head underwater over and over.

    He also authorized extended sensory and air depravation sessions where a bag is tied over the prisoners head and left on there for 3 days at a time while he is restrained.

    Do you think we should do this stuff or not?

    I know these guys are bad people, but it ,makes us look like we're stooping down to their sadistic levels now.
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    • Jeff aka NIGHTfall
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      • Oct 2003
      • 5162
      #2
      "makes us look like we're stooping down to their sadistic levels now."


      actually... we are stooping down to their level in that case...

      bush fucked our country up

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        • PiksalDesign
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2003
          • 1632
          #3
          Hm. Istead of agree or disagree, how about we think of different methods to extract information from terrorists? Non evasive.

          I cant think of any at the moment.
          Accept maybe offer something in exchange.


          or


          Ask them nicely?

          Seriously though. What other ways, effective ways, are there to extract info? Like I said, offer something in echange maybe, if the info checks out. ?
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            • Radik
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              • Sep 2003
              • 808
              #4
              Order everyone out of the hot zone, anyone left dies!...

              They will be forced to leave weapons behind "hidden" or die.. Seems simple to me, the iraqi people who are honest will split.

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                • nap
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 2765
                  #5
                  we have a bomb dubbed the m.o.a.b
                  laser guided "precision" bombs hitting civilian targets.
                  we have yet to find weapons of mass destruction.
                  iraq people are now "free".
                  no one is making a fuss @ the fact that our president lied to us about the war.
                  we pissed on the majority of our allies
                  we have no levels, were america.
                  bush doesnt really seem to care how he makes us look in the eyes of the world, he is going to do what he wants.

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                    • KRL
                      Entrepreneur
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 31429
                      #6
                      I love the way they're suppressing the release of the photos and videos now by saying "the lawyers just don't think its advisable to show anything else to the public".

                      Sure that's the ticket.

                      Can we say Damage Control?

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                        • KaLi
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                          • Aug 2003
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                          #7
                          Originally posted by Jeff aka NIGHTfall
                          "makes us look like we're stooping down to their sadistic levels now."


                          actually... we are stooping down to their level in that case...

                          bush fucked our country up

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                            • webmaster x
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                              • Mar 2004
                              • 4400
                              #8
                              It's not good. They are the bad guys, yeah, but doing that to them, don't you think that we are stooping down to their level? much lower than their level?
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                                • AbulletAway
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                                  • Feb 2003
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                                  #9
                                  They're terrorists. They're getting their head dunked in water over and over again? Ohhhhh! Wow. And, they might have a bag over their heads for days at a time. Could it get any worse? Please. In case anyone missed the first part. They're terrorists. I have no problem with anything they do to them. I hope they do the worst to them and then when they finally get all the information out of them that they need, I hope then they?re put to death.

                                  I don?t want to sound cold blooded but that?s what these terrorists are, it?s all they understand. They will never change, you can give them all they want and they will still find another cause. It?s what they do. And when I think about the people in the twin towers who managed to survive the plan crashing in to their building only to be trapped in a burning building with no other option but to jump from 90 stories up. Fuck the terrorists. They?re not innocent people.

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                                    • nap
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                                      • Dec 2002
                                      • 2765
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by AbulletAwayGoneBad
                                      They're terrorists. They're getting their head dunked in water over and over again? Ohhhhh! Wow. And, they might have a bag over their heads for days at a time. Could it get any worse? Please. In case anyone missed the first part. They're terrorists. I have no problem with anything they do to them. I hope they do the worst to them and then when they finally get all the information out of them that they need, I hope then they?re put to death.

                                      I don?t want to sound cold blooded but that?s what these terrorists are, it?s all they understand. They will never change, you can give them all they want and they will still find another cause. It?s what they do. And when I think about the people in the twin towers who managed to survive the plan crashing in to their building only to be trapped in a burning building with no other option but to jump from 90 stories up. Fuck the terrorists. They?re not innocent people.
                                      Main Entry: ter·ror·ism
                                      Pronunciation: 'ter-&r-"i-z&m
                                      Function: noun
                                      : the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion
                                      - ter·ror·ist /-&r-ist/ adjective or noun
                                      - ter·ror·is·tic /"ter-&r-'is-tik/ adjective

                                      taken from webster.com
                                      who is really the terrorist in this situation? oh wait were patriots and liberators. you do realize that the people who flew the planes into the twin towers had nothing to do with iraq right?

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                                        • richard123
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                                          • Mar 2001
                                          • 491
                                          #11
                                          I think we could learn a lot here from the Israel / Palestine peace process. Violence has always been very helpful in achieving peace (even though the peace may be of the violent type. But still... We can't have it all, can we?)

                                          I'd say a couple of nuclear devices could solve the whole issue. Make that 5. Peace and quiet. Ahhhh

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                                            • AbulletAway
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                                              • Feb 2003
                                              • 760
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by nap
                                              Main Entry: ter·ror·ism
                                              Pronunciation: 'ter-&r-"i-z&m
                                              Function: noun
                                              : the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion
                                              - ter·ror·ist /-&r-ist/ adjective or noun
                                              - ter·ror·is·tic /"ter-&r-'is-tik/ adjective

                                              taken from webster.com
                                              who is really the terrorist in this situation? oh wait were patriots and liberators. you do realize that the people who flew the planes into the twin towers had nothing to do with iraq right?

                                              You do realize we're talking about terrorists here right and not Iraq?

                                              Maybe before you speak, you should learn to comprehend what you read?

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                                                • newsdude
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                                                  • Apr 2004
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                                                  #13
                                                  Ok so they are terrorists. But doesn't that make us stoop down to their level?
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                                                    • nap
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                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                      • 2765
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by AbulletAwayGoneBad
                                                      You do realize we're talking about terrorists here right and not Iraq?

                                                      Maybe before you speak, you should learn to comprehend what you read?
                                                      How many terrorists are just brown skinned people who were in the wrong place at the wrong time, or just looked like a terrorist?

                                                      Get the fuck out of here. There is no way that every single one of the people who they have in custody are terrorists. Maybe you should get your head out of your ass and stop buying into the bullshit that you see on the news as 100% true.

                                                      Give Bush 4 more years in office and everyone who sales porn will be labeled terrorists.

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                                                        • AbulletAway
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                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                          • 760
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by newsdude
                                                          Ok so they are terrorists. But doesn't that make us stoop down to their level?
                                                          Who's stooping to their level? It's called interrogation technique and nothing more. I'm sure they will first try to ask them nicely to give up the information before going to the dreaded ducking in water.

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                                                            • KRL
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                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 31429
                                                              #16
                                                              The CIA intercepted a courier out of Iraq that had a pouch with coded messages to Bin Laden from the terrorist who chopped Berg.

                                                              When they went to the guys place they found a cyanide brick. If it had been disolved and activated there was enough to kill everyone within a 10 block circle.
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                                                                • Fukeneh
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                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                  • 1245
                                                                  #17
                                                                  all is fair in love and war... i have no problem with it. they fucked with my countrymen and family. anything they get is well deserved. if they were not directly involved, well guilt by association is a bitch i guess.

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                                                                    • pushpills
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                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                      • 3700
                                                                      #18
                                                                      that's all they are doing?


                                                                      that's nothing.

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                                                                        • marcu5
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                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                          • 1485
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by nap
                                                                          How many terrorists are just brown skinned people who were in the wrong place at the wrong time, or just looked like a terrorist?

                                                                          Get the fuck out of here. There is no way that every single one of the people who they have in custody are terrorists. Maybe you should get your head out of your ass and stop buying into the bullshit that you see on the news as 100% true.

                                                                          Give Bush 4 more years in office and everyone who sales porn will be labeled terrorists.

                                                                          Very hard thing for some people to comprehend.. Being black it's a bit easier to understand how you could be a victim of pure circumstance. I Read that 80% of the prisoners were innocent! How on earth do you miss by such a large margin!

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                                                                            • AbulletAway
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                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                              • 760
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by nap
                                                                              How many terrorists are just brown skinned people who were in the wrong place at the wrong time, or just looked like a terrorist?

                                                                              Get the fuck out of here. There is no way that every single one of the people who they have in custody are terrorists. Maybe you should get your head out of your ass and stop buying into the bullshit that you see on the news as 100% true.

                                                                              Give Bush 4 more years in office and everyone who sales porn will be labeled terrorists.

                                                                              Ok you obviously aren't that bright. We're not talking about the Iraqi prison. We are talking about known terrorists you moron. Not the poor bastards suck in that Iraqi prison. Yes some of those people were treated badly. The conduct there was inexcusable. But we're talking about terrorists here. Known terrorists, you really have no clue what these people are like.

                                                                              And now you?re throwing Bush in to this. Look I agree Bush is an asshole. And I don't want him elected either. But in case you don't remember, prior to him being elected the first time tards such as yourself said if Bush is elected porn will be outlawed and all that bullshit. Well it ain't happened yet. Take you're bullshit someplace else because you're arguing with someone who's had a life outside of the net. You're naive and people like you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

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                                                                                • tical
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                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                  • 6504
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                  The CIA intercepted a courier out of Iraq that had a pouch with coded messages to Bin Laden from the terrorist who chopped Berg.

                                                                                  When they went to the guys place they found a cyanide brick. If it had been disolved and activated there was enough to kill everyone within a 10 block circle.
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                                                                                    • Mr. Marks
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                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                      • 7517
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      That is not an interrogation at all, that's torture. If want the war to stop, it must begin with us.

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                                                                                        • nap
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                                          • 2765
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by AbulletAwayGoneBad
                                                                                          Ok you obviously aren't that bright. We're not talking about the Iraqi prison. We are talking about known terrorists you moron. Not the poor bastards suck in that Iraqi prison. Yes some of those people were treated badly. The conduct there was inexcusable. But we're talking about terrorists here. Known terrorists, you really have no clue what these people are like.

                                                                                          And now you?re throwing Bush in to this. Look I agree Bush is an asshole. And I don't want him elected either. But in case you don't remember, prior to him being elected the first time tards such as yourself said if Bush is elected porn will be outlawed and all that bullshit. Well it ain't happened yet. Take you're bullshit someplace else because you're arguing with someone who's had a life outside of the net. You're naive and people like you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
                                                                                          my fault, i didn't notice
                                                                                          "They've admitted the President authorized the use of water torture on the top terrorists we have in custody. " the first time i read it.

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                                                                                            • Ironhorse
                                                                                              Pixel Pusher
                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                              • 7094
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by richard123
                                                                                              I think we could learn a lot here from the Israel / Palestine peace process. Violence has always been very helpful in achieving peace (even though the peace may be of the violent type. But still... We can't have it all, can we?)

                                                                                              I'd say a couple of nuclear devices could solve the whole issue. Make that 5. Peace and quiet. Ahhhh
                                                                                              Why do you even think this would work to do anything but bring more hate and warfare?
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                                                                                                • hova
                                                                                                  Traffillionaire
                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                  • 22430
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Bush is really making himself more popular by the day
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                                                                                                    • AbulletAway
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                      • 760
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by papichulo
                                                                                                      That is not an interrogation at all, that's torture. If want the war to stop, it must begin with us.

                                                                                                      Yes it is.

                                                                                                      It amazes how completely unaware some of you people are. This board has had tons of thread about an innocent man who had his head cut off and yet its torture for dunking a terrorists head in water? Please. Thank God you people don't call the shots. It?s an ugly world people and good people die every day and now some terrorists are being dunked in water and its torture? No, getting you're fucking head lopped off is torture. Wake up people.

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                                                                                                        • Creative
                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                          • Apr 2004
                                                                                                          • 1252
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          If we weren't hard on our foes everybody would invade America and take it over

                                                                                                          We aren't fucking around as Americans

                                                                                                          We want our children to be safe

                                                                                                          I say dunk 'em underwater a few times, at least we're not torturing innocent people like they do

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                                                                                                            • Dirty F
                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                                              • 59204
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Creative
                                                                                                              If we weren't hard on our foes everybody would invade America and take it over

                                                                                                              We aren't fucking around as Americans

                                                                                                              We want our children to be safe

                                                                                                              I say dunk 'em underwater a few times, at least we're not torturing innocent people like they do

                                                                                                              Karma and Fate exist, Everything comes back to you

                                                                                                              Haha idiot.

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                                                                                                                • nap
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                                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                  • 2765
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  if this is what is coming out while he is still in office then we are really in for a shock to find out what he doesn't want exposed.

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                                                                                                                    • tical
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                                                                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                      • 6504
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      I think it's perfectly just for the US to use techniques like these to obtain information from known terrorists.

                                                                                                                      Even if it prevents 1 grand act, 1 killing, 1 maiming it's worth it...

                                                                                                                      And for everyone that doesn't agree, I'm sure you all probably think it could never happen to you or your family.

                                                                                                                      Sorry but the threat exists no matter where you are and who you sympathize with. You could be an 'innocent bystander' in the eyes of the left or the right.
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                                                                                                                        • Creative
                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                          • Apr 2004
                                                                                                                          • 1252
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Battuss
                                                                                                                          Haha idiot.
                                                                                                                          iq = 137

                                                                                                                          I just type too fast for my own good and don't prepare it for public view

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                                                                                                                            • Dirty F
                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                              • 59204
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Creative
                                                                                                                              iq = 137

                                                                                                                              I just type too fast for my own good and don't prepare it for public view
                                                                                                                              Youre a perfect example of the fact that an iq number means shit in real life. I met tons of people with lower iq's who are smarter than you.

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                                                                                                                                • johndoebob
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                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 3405
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  I know these guys are bad people
                                                                                                                                  So tell me how do you know this.If they were really proven terrorists it would be ok but the US doesn't wait for proves.It's like Guantanamo or the times where everybody hated Communists.Everybody could say their neighbour is a communist and he ended up in prison or was never seen again and it's like that in Iraq and Afghanistan.They pay people to tell them the names of potential terrorists so everybody picks random people they don't like and even get money for it.Nobody asks for a proove their.Than they die or end up in Guantamo or in a local US prison.

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                                                                                                                                    • Creative
                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2004
                                                                                                                                      • 1252
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Battuss
                                                                                                                                      Youre a perfect example of the fact that an iq number means shit in real life. I met tons of people with lower iq's who are smarter than you.
                                                                                                                                      You don't even know me buddy, It's obvious you're simply an idiot judging me as a person by the text you've read

                                                                                                                                      If you met and knew me in real life you'd take back everything you said tonight

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                                                                                                                                        • Dirty F
                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 59204
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Creative
                                                                                                                                          You don't even know me buddy, It's obvious you're simply an idiot judging me as a person by the text you've read

                                                                                                                                          If you met and knew me in real life you'd take back everything you said tonight
                                                                                                                                          So you admit typing stupid shit then? If you are so much smarter in real life then why you act like an idiot here?

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                                                                                                                                            • richard123
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                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 491
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Ironhorse
                                                                                                                                              Why do you even think this would work to do anything but bring more hate and warfare?
                                                                                                                                              I was being sarcastic. And then thinking that 5 nuclear devices would take care of the whole planet. Perhaps more than 5 would be required, you think?

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                                                                                                                                                • Rich
                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 11486
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  I don't understand, you guys act surprised all of a sudden that you're torturing innocent people. What did you think Rumsfeld meant a year and a half ago when he said these people would be treated as "illegal combatants" rather than POW's, so they wouldn't have to follow the Geneva convention?

                                                                                                                                                  Admit it, you wouldn't give a shit if you didn't have to see the pictures. We've all known this stuff is common practice at gitmo but until the pictures show up on prime time no one gives a fuck.

                                                                                                                                                  Keep electing evil retards who have never seen war outside TV and watch how much worse it can get.

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                                                                                                                                                    • pure energy
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                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2004
                                                                                                                                                      • 4274
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      So now its called interrogation tactics? Trust them to always have a reason for everything!
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                                                                                                                                                        • SuckOnThis
                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 6844
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by tical
                                                                                                                                                          I think it's perfectly just for the US to use techniques like these to obtain information from known terrorists.

                                                                                                                                                          Even if it prevents 1 grand act, 1 killing, 1 maiming it's worth it...

                                                                                                                                                          And for everyone that doesn't agree, I'm sure you all probably think it could never happen to you or your family.

                                                                                                                                                          Sorry but the threat exists no matter where you are and who you sympathize with. You could be an 'innocent bystander' in the eyes of the left or the right.

                                                                                                                                                          You dumbfucks have a better chance of being struck by lightning five times than to be exposed to a terrorist attack. Let go of your fear for some reality for a change.

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                                                                                                                                                            • theking
                                                                                                                                                              Nice Kitty
                                                                                                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 21053
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              quote:
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                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by theking
                                                                                                                                                              The word "torture" has been thrown around alot since the now "infamous" photos have been displayed.

                                                                                                                                                              Though interrogation methods used by the US Army is not in my field of expertise...having gone through the Army's SERE School I am somewhat familiar with the methods used.

                                                                                                                                                              Having said that...prepping those that are subject to interrorgation is SOP. Prepping does not include actual physical torture...although some methods may actually be physically painful in the sense that it will tax the muscles of ones body. Physical torture "bamboo under the nails" type of thing is not allowed and it is not productive...because the reliability factor of information obtained through the use of physical torture is low.

                                                                                                                                                              Prepping does include...a certain degration factor and a certain deprivation factor...in order to break down ones mental resistence. Subjectively some may call the levels of these methods "abuse" and others may in fact call it "torture"...but none the less there exists SOP for the interrogation of prisoners...and it is a necessary thing.
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                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by theking
                                                                                                                                                              tor·ture ( P ) Pronunciation Key (tôrchr)
                                                                                                                                                              n.

                                                                                                                                                              Infliction of severe physical pain as a means of punishment or coercion.
                                                                                                                                                              An instrument or a method for inflicting such pain.
                                                                                                                                                              Excruciating physical or mental pain; agony: the torture of waiting in suspense.
                                                                                                                                                              Something causing severe pain or anguish.


                                                                                                                                                              a·buse ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-byz)
                                                                                                                                                              tr.v. a·bused, a·bus·ing, a·bus·es
                                                                                                                                                              To use wrongly or improperly; misuse: abuse alcohol; abuse a privilege.
                                                                                                                                                              To hurt or injure by maltreatment; ill-use.
                                                                                                                                                              To force sexual activity on; rape or molest.
                                                                                                                                                              To assail with contemptuous, coarse, or insulting words; revile.
                                                                                                                                                              Obsolete. To deceive or trick.


                                                                                                                                                              There is a difference...though some may think the difference to be negligible.

                                                                                                                                                              It is my understanding that the people involved in the pictures are from a Reservist MP Unit. It is SOP for MP's not to be involved in interrogation...or the prepping for same. It is SOP for MP's to be "keepers" and "escorters" and to maintain good order for those that are confined.

                                                                                                                                                              Most that will be Court Martialed will be Court Martialed because this SOP was violated. The first scheduled Court Martial is a Summary Court and the max prison time is 6 months. There are some Article 32 investigations taking place and I suspect that some will receive a General Court and prison time can be lengthy if convicted in a General Court.

                                                                                                                                                              There may be some that are actually Court Martialed for having "tortured" and it is my understanding that in a least two cases a capital crime has been committed...but most will not be Court Martialed for having committed acts of "torture".
                                                                                                                                                              There are SOP's for interrogation and the bleeding hearts would probably call it "torture"...but they can as it is a necessary thing.
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                                                                                                                                                                • theking
                                                                                                                                                                  Nice Kitty
                                                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 21053
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Rich
                                                                                                                                                                  I don't understand, you guys act surprised all of a sudden that you're torturing innocent people. What did you think Rumsfeld meant a year and a half ago when he said these people would be treated as "illegal combatants" rather than POW's, so they wouldn't have to follow the Geneva convention?

                                                                                                                                                                  Admit it, you wouldn't give a shit if you didn't have to see the pictures. We've all known this stuff is common practice at gitmo but until the pictures show up on prime time no one gives a fuck.

                                                                                                                                                                  Keep electing evil retards who have never seen war outside TV and watch how much worse it can get.
                                                                                                                                                                  Ahh...the delusional one speaks.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Goose
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                      • 5725
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      yes you're right, we take to the same level and this is not what democracy stands for...we gotta show them that we're better, only that might inspire them and take away the hatred.
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                                                                                                                                                                        • EviLGuY
                                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2003
                                                                                                                                                                          • 12745
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Is it just me or does anyone else long for the days when the worst news about the president was he got head from an intern?

                                                                                                                                                                          Now its all war this, beheading that, torture them.. pretty far slide in a few short years.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • directfiesta
                                                                                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                              • 30166
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by richard123
                                                                                                                                                                              I think we could learn a lot here from the Israel / Palestine peace process. Violence has always been very helpful in achieving peace (even though the peace may be of the violent type. But still... We can't have it all, can we?)

                                                                                                                                                                              I'd say a couple of nuclear devices could solve the whole issue. Make that 5. Peace and quiet. Ahhhh
                                                                                                                                                                              AGREED

                                                                                                                                                                              The question is with which cities to start:

                                                                                                                                                                              Washington?
                                                                                                                                                                              New York?
                                                                                                                                                                              LA?
                                                                                                                                                                              I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                                                                                                              But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                                                                                                                • FlyingIguana
                                                                                                                                                                                  aspiring banker
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 10870
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by AbulletAwayGoneBad
                                                                                                                                                                                  Ok you obviously aren't that bright. We're not talking about the Iraqi prison. We are talking about known terrorists you moron. Not the poor bastards suck in that Iraqi prison. Yes some of those people were treated badly. The conduct there was inexcusable. But we're talking about terrorists here. Known terrorists, you really have no clue what these people are like.

                                                                                                                                                                                  And now you?re throwing Bush in to this. Look I agree Bush is an asshole. And I don't want him elected either. But in case you don't remember, prior to him being elected the first time tards such as yourself said if Bush is elected porn will be outlawed and all that bullshit. Well it ain't happened yet. Take you're bullshit someplace else because you're arguing with someone who's had a life outside of the net. You're naive and people like you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
                                                                                                                                                                                  they got sidetracked by a recession and sept 11th. ash-hahahahaha(can we spell that here) was the major reason why.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • theking
                                                                                                                                                                                      Nice Kitty
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 21053
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by directfiesta
                                                                                                                                                                                      AGREED

                                                                                                                                                                                      The question is with which cities to start:

                                                                                                                                                                                      Washington?
                                                                                                                                                                                      New York?
                                                                                                                                                                                      LA?
                                                                                                                                                                                      Hmm...what city is it you live in?
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • BT
                                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 6481
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • xenophobic
                                                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 874
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Rich
                                                                                                                                                                                              I don't understand, you guys act surprised all of a sudden that you're torturing innocent people. What did you think Rumsfeld meant a year and a half ago when he said these people would be treated as "illegal combatants" rather than POW's, so they wouldn't have to follow the Geneva convention?

                                                                                                                                                                                              Admit it, you wouldn't give a shit if you didn't have to see the pictures. We've all known this stuff is common practice at gitmo but until the pictures show up on prime time no one gives a fuck.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Keep electing evil retards who have never seen war outside TV and watch how much worse it can get.
                                                                                                                                                                                              The Taliban were given P.O.W status, Al-Qaeda was not.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • trouserrat
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 324
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by nap


                                                                                                                                                                                                  Maybe you should get your head out of your ass and stop buying into the bullshit that you see on the news as 100% true.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  The media is decidedly ANTI-Bush, idiot.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • KRL
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Entrepreneur
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 31429
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by theking
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by theking
                                                                                                                                                                                                      The word "torture" has been thrown around alot since the now "infamous" photos have been displayed.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Though interrogation methods used by the US Army is not in my field of expertise...having gone through the Army's SERE School I am somewhat familiar with the methods used.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Having said that...prepping those that are subject to interrorgation is SOP. Prepping does not include actual physical torture...although some methods may actually be physically painful in the sense that it will tax the muscles of ones body. Physical torture "bamboo under the nails" type of thing is not allowed and it is not productive...because the reliability factor of information obtained through the use of physical torture is low.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Prepping does include...a certain degration factor and a certain deprivation factor...in order to break down ones mental resistence. Subjectively some may call the levels of these methods "abuse" and others may in fact call it "torture"...but none the less there exists SOP for the interrogation of prisoners...and it is a necessary thing.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      There are SOP's for interrogation and the bleeding hearts would probably call it "torture"...but they can as it is a necessary thing.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Of course its the only way you can get info out of these fuckheads, where the mistake is now is broadcasting to the world media that the US is using Presidential authorized torture. Big mistake because now you open a whole can of worms and legal problems.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Shit like this should just be keep totally quiet.
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