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  • TurboAngel
    H.B.I.C.
    • Jun 2003
    • 30122
    #51
    Originally posted by Wildcard
    Most people also give up after a month or so. The first month(s) you won't make shit.

    Also, without partner accounts you won't get anywhere these days.

    I'm speaking from my own experience.

    You hit the nail on the head.


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      • Maerklin
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2004
        • 136
        #52
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          • GigaXXX
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            • Apr 2004
            • 872
            #53
            Originally posted by Jedimaster
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              • EscortBiz
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                • May 2002
                • 19422
                #54
                Originally posted by Maerklin
                Most use shady dialers that pay alot of 2 months and then disappear with all their money. Check us out, we are totally complient and we pay on time, not to mention we have the highest rates and let you compare them all right on the site
                what the fuck did you just say?

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                  • Sosa
                    In Tushy Land
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 40149
                    #55
                    I don't make shit from galleries

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                      • EscortBiz
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                        • May 2002
                        • 19422
                        #56
                        Originally posted by Ron2k1
                        It's still very possible to get over 200,000 pageviews to your galleries daily with submitting to only like 20 - 30 TGP's

                        You just have to get a list together with sites that regularly list your galleries. Make something unique which looks much better then the average gallery. If you can't design a template, hire someone who does have design skills. It really makes a huge difference when your gallery looks above average quality
                        exactly

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                          • Za Ha
                            Confirmed User
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 5112
                            #57
                            After getting ~2000 submits daily between 2 of my sites I stopped taking regular submits. I thought that taking everyone in would be good because a lot of n00bs have good ideas that can help both me and him... however there are toooooo many fucking cheaters who redirect to sites that install trojans and shit like that.

                            So I decided to go mostly FHG and my own gals. Yes I am fucking over my submitters but I am still taking partner submits and those are the guys who actually make money because they have quality content, their own tours and exclusive content. The rest just take a free hosted gal, click file, save as, put my recip and upload and submit. FUCK HIM, put some effort into a gal to make it look original and maybe sales will come in.

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                              • lazzlo
                                Confirmed User
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 3709
                                #58
                                I think the generic size banners are useless, I like making my own, bigger but not retarded. Also I agree that choosing the content is a must, pulling images from FHG's sucks bigtime, not only in quality sometimes but also 35454 people have used them.
                                I don't make 10,000 a day, but I do well I think for what I do.

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                                  • EscortBiz
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                                    • May 2002
                                    • 19422
                                    #59
                                    lots of great awesome advice in this thread thanks everyone

                                    the question is will TGP and MGP submitters learn from this or will they think they are different because they know better then everyone.

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                                      • lazzlo
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Sep 2003
                                        • 3709
                                        #60
                                        I don't think, humbly speaking, I can get better how I do it now. I could do better if I submitted everyday, which I don't, and maybe explore other niches, and maybe start buying the $1200 spots. Oops, theres 3 ways I could get better! But I am hapopy the way I have it set up now.

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                                          • college_stud
                                            Registered User
                                            • Apr 2004
                                            • 46
                                            #61
                                            what exactly do you mean by partner accounts?

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                                              • Strife
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2001
                                                • 4534
                                                #62
                                                very useful post
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                                                  • lazzlo
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Sep 2003
                                                    • 3709
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by college_stud
                                                    what exactly do you mean by partner accounts?
                                                    Preffered submitter status, sometimes auto posted.

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                                                      • LadyMischief
                                                        Orgasms N Such!
                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                        • 18135
                                                        #64
                                                        Very true, EB. Another thing that happens is that they tend not to treat it as work. Big mistake. The second you stop thinking about your TGP submitting etc as something other than requiring your full attention, you are going to have problems.

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                                                          • Sosa
                                                            In Tushy Land
                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                            • 40149
                                                            #65
                                                            there is money in submitting for people if they are willing to take th time and find out what works best for them, talk to site owners, and actually take it as a job and not playtime to make beer money.

                                                            You can make a living off gallery submitting.

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                                                              • gornyhuy
                                                                Chafed.
                                                                • May 2002
                                                                • 18041
                                                                #66
                                                                Great thread, EB!

                                                                My own experience for a gallery formula that works is:
                                                                - friendly relationships with some of the biggest TGPs to get frequent listings of high volume traffic
                                                                -a partner account from a handful of very targeted niche themed TGPs that match the content/sponsor
                                                                -Hand built templates with SEO kept in mind
                                                                -Exclusive content from member's areas

                                                                Unfortunately I just don't have the time to keep up with the manual submits anymore so I am falling off hard on my gallery work, also I've found it very difficult to get the attention of TGP owners to get submit accounts consistently (despite all the good work listed above)

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                                                                  • gornyhuy
                                                                    Chafed.
                                                                    • May 2002
                                                                    • 18041
                                                                    #67
                                                                    One more thing - manual submitting seems to be the best way to get real results, so i'm wondering if these outsourced labor shops can do the job right or not? $5 Subs, webmasterlabor, etc.

                                                                    Has anyone used these services? How do they do compared to you doing your own submits?

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                                                                      • fishhead
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • May 2003
                                                                        • 211
                                                                        #68
                                                                        i've been submitting galleries and making a living for 5+ years, but lately i find that even with partner and preferred submit accounts a lot fo my big traffic sources are goingthe paid route. places i got listed everyday at like mark's, ampland, video-post and had great relationships with just kinda blew off longtime submitters to go the paid route. between those 3 sites alone that's like 75k in traffic daily to my galleires that was gone in the blink of an eye.

                                                                        If anyone is interested in giving out partner accounts a moderate traffic'd tgp's to an honest webmaster who'll give you 2 clean galleries daily, let me know...

                                                                        -fish
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                                                                          • sake
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Apr 2002
                                                                            • 2648
                                                                            #69
                                                                            You have to build a good reputation when submitting.. Submit 1 gallery a day for 2 months straight. With the 60 galleries submitted you WILL make some money if you know what you're doing - if you can't even cover the hosting bill GET OUT RIGHT AWAY.

                                                                            Get your own hosting for your galleries, and make sure it's a sold host because you will get traffic to those galleries down the road and hopefully make sales from galleries you submitted 2,3 months ago even more.

                                                                            Start applying for partner accounts at medium size TGPs and then at bigger TGPs. You gotta go small than big.. When you apply for partner accounts at the big TGPs mention at which sites you are already a trusted submitter..

                                                                            Talk to TGP owners and other submitters - this is the only way you are going to get partner passwords at bigger TGPs.

                                                                            I applied at a pretty big text TGP 3x with my sample galleries - never got a reply from them. I got recommended by another submitter to the owner of that site, and now he lists 2 of my galleries daily..

                                                                            The more partner accounts, the more quality traffic you will get, the more sales that will result in.

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                                                                              • Anna_O
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                • 5773
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Indeed a VERY good thread. Not very usual here recently... Thanks


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                                                                                  • sake
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Apr 2002
                                                                                    • 2648
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    One other thing I didn't mention was choosing the right sponsor.. don't choose a sponsor that you see on every friggin' TGP site, choose something new and something that is not highly saturated by other submitters..

                                                                                    If a reviewer sees 5 similar galleries promoting the same site, he probably won't list your gallery even if you have a partner password.

                                                                                    If you are the only one promoting a new sponsor and your galleries are different from day to day (5,6 templates rotating) then you will get listed definitely..

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                                                                                      • Pleasurepays
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                                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                                        • 11913
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        what an amazing amount of good info.

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                                                                                          • hydro
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Dec 2003
                                                                                            • 4216
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            movie tours convert nicely, but you do lose out a little since not everyone is on broadband yet

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                                                                                              • hershie
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Jun 2002
                                                                                                • 4642
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Instead of sending the surfer to a sponsor, I created a premium AVS site with a unique theme (cartoon figure...) that matches my gallery template so I have created a brand. Since its an AVS, if the surfer doesn't want to join, I have links for more porn to my hub site for that niche that has hosted galleries and links to my other AVS sites...and I have made sales that way as well.
                                                                                                Last edited by hershie; 05-14-2004, 10:47 AM.

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                                                                                                  • EscortBiz
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                                                                                                    • May 2002
                                                                                                    • 19422
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                                                    what an amazing amount of good info.

                                                                                                    this thread should help many

                                                                                                    glad everyone is lending a helping hand with advice

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                                                                                                      • Snake Doctor
                                                                                                        I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                                        • Mar 2001
                                                                                                        • 13449
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        There are 3 things to remember when trying to make money from galleries.

                                                                                                        1) Content is king
                                                                                                        2) Content is king
                                                                                                        3) Content is king

                                                                                                        The content on your gallery is representative of what the surfer thinks he'll get if he joins the site you're plugging.
                                                                                                        If the content is shit, he'll think the site is shit. If the content is primo, he'll think he can get more just like it if he joins.
                                                                                                        Its as simple as that.

                                                                                                        Don't listen to all the people whining about too much free porn and if you give the milk away they won't buy the cow....yada yada yada.
                                                                                                        All the people who bitch about things like that are the people who AREN'T making money off of TGP traffic.

                                                                                                        With other types of traffic it is possible to tease the surfer into joining. With TGP traffic you just can't do it, how can you tell them they have to join to see the hardcore when they know they can click their back button and get 1000's of hardcore pics back at the TGP?
                                                                                                        You have to show them the best you've got and hope they can't live without it.

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                                                                                                          • Snake Doctor
                                                                                                            I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                                            • Mar 2001
                                                                                                            • 13449
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Another thing to consider is that it pays to be on top.

                                                                                                            Getting in front of the surfer first is a "force multiplier" that will greatly increase your galleries profitability.
                                                                                                            A gallery listed in the number one spot on any given TGP will get 2-3 times as much traffic as a gallery listed in the middle or on the bottom.
                                                                                                            Why?
                                                                                                            Because only half the surfers make it to the middle of the page, they've either already gotten off, already joined a site, or already gotten bored and surfed off to another bookmark.

                                                                                                            Once you find a combination of content, paysite, and page layout that sells, take the money you've made off of the free traffic and RE-INVEST it into your business by buying top spots at some high quality sites.

                                                                                                            Rinse, repeat.
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                                                                                                              • design
                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                • 346
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                this one is a great thread! thanks alot guys!
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                                                                                                                  • WarChild
                                                                                                                    Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                    • 17263
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by SpaceAce
                                                                                                                    The problem is that the spammers and cheaters have screwed everything up. I am trying to get partner accounts to submit CuteCouples galleries and I am having a hell of a time. A lot of places won't even let you apply for partner status, now, and many that do let you apply never get back to you.

                                                                                                                    I have exclusive content, a fresh site and decent design skills but I am still spinning my wheels as far as gallery submission goes. If you can recommend MGPs worth posting to where the webmaster actually gets around to approving partner accounts, let me know.

                                                                                                                    SpaceAce
                                                                                                                    I think I approved you last night. If not hit me up again. webmaster(at)creamshots.com
                                                                                                                    .

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                                                                                                                      • Ron2k1
                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                        • Sep 2001
                                                                                                                        • 1573
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Lenny2


                                                                                                                        Don't listen to all the people whining about too much free porn and if you give the milk away they won't buy the cow....yada yada yada.
                                                                                                                        All the people who bitch about things like that are the people who AREN'T making money off of TGP traffic.
                                                                                                                        Very VERY true. The average TGP porn surfer doesn't care if he can get anything for free. The most important thing he wants is quality porn. PORN HE LIKES! He will join a paysite if he got teased by great quality teasing pics, he will join because he wants more of the same quality stuff!

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                                                                                                                          • EscortBiz
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                                                                                                                            • May 2002
                                                                                                                            • 19422
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by design
                                                                                                                            this one is a great thread! thanks alot guys!
                                                                                                                            jew welcome

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                                                                                                                              • SpaceAce
                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                • 6493
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by WarChild
                                                                                                                                I think I approved you last night. If not hit me up again. webmaster(at)creamshots.com
                                                                                                                                Hi, WarChild. I don't think I'd gotten around to applying at Creamshots, yet, but I will do so now. Did someone apply with SpaceAce as a username or something? Anyway, I will definitely email you right away.

                                                                                                                                SpaceAce

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                                                                                                                                  • SomeCreep
                                                                                                                                    :glugglug
                                                                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                    • 26118
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    As in life, networking is very important if you're going to be a successful TGP submitter.

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                                                                                                                                      • fishhead
                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                        • May 2003
                                                                                                                                        • 211
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        this is true, warchild approved my partner account in about 35 seconds...

                                                                                                                                        Thanks, anyone else got some room for me?
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                                                                                                                                          • sake
                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                            • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                            • 2648
                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            WarChild, what sites do you run?

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                                                                                                                                              • WarChild
                                                                                                                                                Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                                                                                                • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                • 17263
                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by sake
                                                                                                                                                WarChild, what sites do you run?
                                                                                                                                                Creamshots.com
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                                                                                                                                                  • Jon
                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                                                    • 2578
                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    Wow, I had no idea. I sure as shit am glad I never went the TGP route, but it does look like a lot more work than I thought originally. Still though, it's just getting into a rhythm, and if you can't manage to do that, fuck off, I don't care how much you like porn. Don't worry, we'll still let you post here.

                                                                                                                                                    I really do think if there were a contest out there amongst newbies for TGP's with cash prizes about who can get the most partner accounts, traffic, and quality conversions I think I would take the cake, just because I'm used to working hard for my traffic. I deal with search engines only. May it be organic or ppc, it's still hard work, nothing comes easy in this business.

                                                                                                                                                    You TGP guys definitely have it easier than us SE guys, that's for fucking sure. So why aren't you all making enough bank to at least cover convention events??? The answer is just lazyness. It's that whole mindset of "the porn industry is easy money".

                                                                                                                                                    Since I'm not a TGP webmaster, I can't really offer any solid advice on that front, but I'm sure there are similarities to SE's where QUALITY OVER QUANTITY is the name of the game. It just seems wiser to follow what people here have said, produce quality unique templates and content, get a quality sponsor, and aim for the smaller guys. Build your contacts up. Shit, you can pull off a positive TGP cashflow with the IQ of a retarded monkey I'm sure.

                                                                                                                                                    So enough posting here, get to work you slackers!
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                                                                                                                                                      • Ross
                                                                                                                                                        Ik ben een aap
                                                                                                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                                        • 18874
                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by EscortBiz
                                                                                                                                                        Again blame it on free porn, blame it on shaving, blame it on slow hosting but the truth is if you take the time and are creative you can make lots of money.
                                                                                                                                                        Correct.

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                                                                                                                                                          • marko13
                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                            • Apr 2004
                                                                                                                                                            • 7512
                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            thank you for the tricks... i'll try not to do the mistakes...
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                                                                                                                                                              • EscortBiz
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                                                                                                                                                                • 19422
                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by marko13
                                                                                                                                                                thank you for the tricks... i'll try not to do the mistakes...
                                                                                                                                                                let us know how things went :-)

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                                                                                                                                                                  • Sly_RJ
                                                                                                                                                                    Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                                                                                                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                                    • 17042
                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    What a great thread. Thanks guys.

                                                                                                                                                                    I'm just about to start getting into TGP. I have my good templates, my fresh paysites, and my quality content. Working on getting the partner accounts now.

                                                                                                                                                                    I'll have to remember to check back on this thread again for more great tips.
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Jeromy
                                                                                                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                        • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                        • 46
                                                                                                                                                                        #92
                                                                                                                                                                        How does the TGP/MGP owner make their money? Is it on a click-basis? Who pays them if bigger sites are submitting to them for the traffic? One last thing, what does SE mean? Sorry, new to the whole idea.
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                                                                                                                                                                          • KaLi
                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                                            • 4371
                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by EscortBiz
                                                                                                                                                                            And there are some who earn tens of thousands of dollars daily.

                                                                                                                                                                            Lets talk about a few of the big mistakes, this should help some people here, not intended to bash anyone.

                                                                                                                                                                            A few pointers and I hope others will add to it.

                                                                                                                                                                            Common one:

                                                                                                                                                                            What sponsor has hosted galleries? = TGP submitter about to convert NADA

                                                                                                                                                                            Anyone making decent money submitting to TGP's and MGP's grabs content from a members area and creates their own templates etc, most affiliate programs offer free FTP hosting.

                                                                                                                                                                            Yeah I know its hard to grab content from a site based on plugins but guess what surfers are becoming smarter daily and can spot a plugin site quick.

                                                                                                                                                                            Its funny the last thing a TGP/MGP submitter will blame is themselves, everyone is at fault but them, the hosting company sucks, third party billers save everything etc.

                                                                                                                                                                            List some other common mistakes.
                                                                                                                                                                            Dont give away my secrets! Hehe, theres more to that, but its so true

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                                                                                                                                                                              • imafuckingaussie
                                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                • 1497
                                                                                                                                                                                #94
                                                                                                                                                                                Great to see a really informative thread!

                                                                                                                                                                                I have been posting to mgp's on and off over the last year and have gotten ok at it, however TGP I have never done well at.

                                                                                                                                                                                I Have a few questions I would like you Escortbiz or some other knowledgeable ppl to answer:

                                                                                                                                                                                1. Do you think it's imperative to get the content from the paysites member area, as opposed to downloading it from the webmaster area (the webmaster one of course being exposed a lot more on the net)?

                                                                                                                                                                                2. What is the best method for getting partner accounts? (I have always just used the forms they have on the tgp/mgp's and often dont even get responded too) So some tips for getting partner accountsy?

                                                                                                                                                                                3. Is it essential to use a program like advanced submitter or chemeleon?

                                                                                                                                                                                4. How many if any sites do you auto submit to? I know a lot of sites dont accept auto submitters, but if I'm using chameleon or AA, should I set any tgps to auto?

                                                                                                                                                                                5. Is it essential to post more than a gallery a day, bearing in mind that there are a lot of large sites that restrict the ammount of times u can submit each day?

                                                                                                                                                                                6. Lastly,how many sites do you submit to to make really good money with tgps?

                                                                                                                                                                                Thanks, it would be of great help if anyone could help me with these questions. I've been in the adult biz for about 6 years, however mainly focussing on the now dying avs business.

                                                                                                                                                                                thanks

                                                                                                                                                                                You can get it ploughing a paddock, you can get it makin some porn sites, matter of fact I've got it now.

                                                                                                                                                                                For a hard earned thrist, you need a big cold beer.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • jayeff
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • May 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by imafuckingaussie
                                                                                                                                                                                    1. Do you think it's imperative to get the content from the paysites member area
                                                                                                                                                                                    First, check whether that is okay: not all sponsors allow it. My take is that when you can, this is the best route if you are promoting a recurring sponsor. If promoting pay-per-sale it doesn't matter (to you) if the surfer is pissed because the model you teased them with isn't inside.

                                                                                                                                                                                    That said, content in most webmaster areas is fairly horrible and when not, likely will be well exposed. But the main thing is to get eye-catching content (easier said than done), regardless of where it comes from on the sponsor's site, or if you buy it.


                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by imafuckingaussie
                                                                                                                                                                                    2. What is the best method for getting partner accounts? (I have always just used the forms they have on the tgp/mgp's and often dont even get responded too) So some tips for getting partner accountsy?
                                                                                                                                                                                    Although only the owner of some small TGPs, I used to get 300+ partner requests a month, which is way more than I need. So many TGPs simply don't need more submitters, even though they leave the form up. Make sure your samples follow the rules and represent your best work. Follow up by ICQ or email if you don't get a response. And if all else fails, try every month or so. You may land at a time when they are looking to add some new names.


                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by imafuckingaussie
                                                                                                                                                                                    3. Is it essential to use a program like advanced submitter or chemeleon?

                                                                                                                                                                                    4. How many if any sites do you auto submit to? I know a lot of sites dont accept auto submitters, but if I'm using chameleon or AA, should I set any tgps to auto?

                                                                                                                                                                                    6. Lastly,how many sites do you submit to to make really good money with tgps?
                                                                                                                                                                                    It isn't essential to have special submission software. It isn't particularly difficult to make your own submit page and do the rest with Roboform or something similar. But the answer depends on the strategy you intend to follow and there isn't one right answer.

                                                                                                                                                                                    There is a lot of BS written about good and bad TGPs, the vast majority of which is not based on testing, but because someone has bought into what someone else has written on a board. If you ever try to properly test the quality of the traffic from different TGPs, you soon realise what a lengthy, time-consuming and largely impossible task it is.

                                                                                                                                                                                    So you take your pick. Whichever way you go you should build a list of say 50 TGPs to which you submit by hand. That would include the bigger TGPs relevant to your niche(s) and as many partner accounts as you can get (probably working your way down from the biggest general TGPs until you have a decent list). After that, it is your choice whether or not you auto-submit to all the others.

                                                                                                                                                                                    My view, although based only on my own prejudices, is that traffic quality is better from the smaller TGPs. So although I wouldn't spare the time to submit to them by hand, an auto-submitter like Chameleon is a good way to pick up extra hits for minimal effort.

                                                                                                                                                                                    It's impossible to answer your question 6. I have seen people claim to make money from 20-30 TGPs and others swear by submitting to hundreds. It depends on your galleries, your sponsor, your niche, which TGPs are on your list and likely as not, according to which direction the wind is blowing that day.


                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by imafuckingaussie
                                                                                                                                                                                    5. Is it essential to post more than a gallery a day, bearing in mind that there are a lot of large sites that restrict the ammount of times u can submit each day?
                                                                                                                                                                                    Depends entirely on how successful one gallery is for you, how much money you want to earn, and how (if you plan to break the rules or only submit more than one to those which permit it) good you are at covering your tracks.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • imafuckingaussie
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        Hey jayeff, thanks for taking the time to answer all those questions, that was really helpful. I agree about the smaller tgp's btw.

                                                                                                                                                                                        You can get it ploughing a paddock, you can get it makin some porn sites, matter of fact I've got it now.

                                                                                                                                                                                        For a hard earned thrist, you need a big cold beer.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • AdultDesigners
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 459
                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Battuss
                                                                                                                                                                                            I collected 70 partner accounts in a week but i have to say most are for smaller sites. The big sites, you either have to know to owner or pay.

                                                                                                                                                                                            We accept partner accounts : www.traffictgp.com
                                                                                                                                                                                            [email protected]

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Dopy
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 1572
                                                                                                                                                                                                #98
                                                                                                                                                                                                LOL things must be bad around here if this thread can be declared as a great source of information. Looks more like stating the obvious to me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                If you have good ideas or opinions keep them to yourself. The public talking days are over. Talk only to those you network or partner with, and even then limit what you say.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Big mistake thinking boards like this are a cosy little community where you can have fun and spill a few beans. You are on your own in this business, think otherwise and the wheels will fall off.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • imafuckingaussie
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 1497
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    I know what your getting at dopy, but it doesnt matter what is said, most people will not act on information, it's the way it is. Look at all the webmaster resource boards and their articles, if you seriously followed them, then you would be very wealthy.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    It doesnt hurt to share a bit of information now and then, its not gonna change your bottom line.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    You can get it ploughing a paddock, you can get it makin some porn sites, matter of fact I've got it now.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    For a hard earned thrist, you need a big cold beer.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • kowntafit
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 4667
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #100
                                                                                                                                                                                                        This has got to be the most informative thread I have seen for a long time.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        I have only submitted a few galleries, basically just testing out things. I used an auto submitter and only averaged about 2k hits per gallery, most from the same TGP.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Could anyone recommend some TGPs to submit to by hand which don't require partner accounts?

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I just want to get some traffic to some galleries so that I can test things out and learn more about galleries as a casual thing.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Any suggestions appreciated.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        This is where my next million is coming from!

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